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We could likely win out finish 12-4, rematch with Pats


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Time for some real talk NFL perspective;

2012 ravens won the Super Bowl. They gave up 43 points to the texans. Went 1-4 the last 5 weeks of the season. Finished 10-6.

2011 giants won the Super Bowl. Went 3-5 the last 8 games. Finished with a 9-7 record. Beat the unstoppable patriots in the sb.

2010 packers win the Super Bowl. Went 3-3 the last 6 games. Finished 10-6.

2009 saints won the Super Bowl. Lost their last 3 games. Beat possibly the best team in the league that year in the sb.

Let's stop acting like a team has to be 16-0, coming off a 10 game winning streak, and have zero weaknesses to have a prayer of winning a game in the playoffs.

You know what those teams have in common? Great QB play when they needed it. You know what we have (looking that way at least)?

All of those teams had leaders on Defense and guys who you have to game plan for or guys that will scare you to death.. Our defense only has vontae everyone else is average or slightly above average. Not including Mathis because he's hurt.
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All of those teams had leaders on Defense and guys who you have to game plan for or guys that will scare you to death.. Our defense only has vontae everyone else is average or slightly above average. Not including Mathis because he's hurt.

Really? Like who?

The year the saints won they had the 20th ranked defense and tied for 15th in sacks. One all-pro defensive back.

The giants had the 25th ranked defense 3rd in sacks. One all-pro defensive end.

The ravens 12th ranked defense tied for 16th in sacks. One all-pro defensive tackle.

This is where you tell me it's the "heart" or the defense or a "leader". Nope that's not it. Look at how their QBs played. That's the point.

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Really? Like who?

The year the saints won they had the 20th ranked defense and tied for 15th in sacks. One all-pro defensive back.

The giants had the 25th ranked defense 3rd in sacks. One all-pro defensive end.

The ravens 12th ranked defense tied for 16th in sacks. One all-pro defensive tackle.

This is where you tell me it's the "heart" or the defense or a "leader". Nope that's not it. Look at how their QBs played. That's the point.

Saints Johnathan Vilma Will Smith Jabari Greer Tracey Porter

Giants the whole d line Blackburn

Ravens Ray Lewis Suggs Ed Reed Jimmy Smith

Ngata need more examples? 2006 colts bob sanders made his presence felt. 2007 giants michael Stratham justin tuck 2008 steelers troy Lawrence Timmons harrison

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Saints Johnathan Vilma Will Smith Jabari Greer Tracey Porter

Giants the whole d line Blackburn

Ravens Ray Lewis Suggs Ed Reed Jimmy Smith

Ngata need more examples? 2006 colts bob sanders made his presence felt. 2007 giants michael Stratham justin tuck 2008 steelers troy Lawrence Timmons harrison

No offense but you're just throwing names of players out there that you know. Tracy porter? Will hill? Jabari Greer? Jimmy smith? Those dudes were never elite. I'll give you Vilma and Ngata they were elite those years they won (also the all-pros I mentioned).

You want me to rattle off the playoff teams that have bigger names and better defense but didn't win?

My point, which still hasn't changed, is that all of these teams had QBs that got hot and led them to a super bowl. In the absence of a lights out defense, which I don't see this year (steelers you mentioned, Seahawks last year) the best QB will win. That may be us this year.

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No offense but you're just throwing names of players out there that you know. Tracy porter? Will hill? Jabari Greer? Jimmy smith? Those dudes were never elite. I'll give you Vilma and Ngata they were elite those years they won (also the all-pros I mentioned).

You want me to rattle off the playoff teams that have bigger names and better defense but didn't win?

My point, which still hasn't changed, is that all of these teams had QBs that got hot and led them to a super bowl. In the absence of a lights out defense, which I don't see this year (steelers you mentioned, Seahawks last year) the best QB will win. That may be us this year.

Will smith had 14 sacks that season the saints went all the way
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I don't think winning out is in the cards either.  And a rematch with the Pats?  The team we saw yesterday would have been even more embarrassed than the last time we played the Pats.  Unless Santa comes early with an offensive line, we haven't got a snowflakes chance in the Sahara in making it past the first round.

 

 

not going win only 3 year rebuilding . get 10-6 

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