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Easier said than done. Manning had 55 TDs in 15.5 games last year, average of 3.5 TDs/game.

Now, he only threw two TDs a piece in the last two games against SD. They have a good defense. But so do the Broncos, especially if their acquisitions and returning players perform.

I'm not suggesting that QBs win games, but it's easier to win games when you have a good QB, and generally, the better your QB is, the more likely you are to win games. Which is clearly supported by how many games the teams with elite QBs win, percentage wise. And specifically the Broncos with Manning, who have won more regular season games in two seasons than anyone else (which translates to division titles).

Yeah division opponents tend to play each other tougher. Like you said though keeping Manning from scoring is easier said then done but he is the big kahuna that the defensive coordinators in the division are game planning for. I mean, don't be surprised if they can make him uncomfortable, because whenever that happens, like his brother, he tends to fall apart. I think Brees and Rodgers prove that sometimes it takes more than just having the elite guy but they are no strangers to the postseason and wins that's for sure.
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Look at all of the division winners last year. Outside of Carolina the team that won the division had the best qb.

Hmm. Well best is subjective but I'll humor you. Foles isn't better than Romo or Griffin, not traditionally. Dalton and Flacco are about even but Ben is the best in the North. The other divisions shook out like they should have but usually it isn't as clean cut.
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Hmm. Well best is subjective but I'll humor you. Foles isn't better than Romo or Griffin, not traditionally. Dalton and Flacco are about even but Ben is the best in the North. The other divisions shook out like they should have but usually it isn't as clean cut.

Foles was by far better than bob and romo last year and it wasn't close. Dalton was also better than Ben

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I would agree that we are underdogs and the division isn't ours by acclamation.  However, a lot of things happen along the way to the Superbowl and a lot of teams that are "shoe ins" never make it back again.  

 

I'm excited for this season and to see how it all shakes out. As the old saw goes, "That's why they play the season," there is always the unexpected.   

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For the season yes. But we all know that isn't happening. Manning is much better than Phil and he has better weapons

Speaking in hypotheticals of course. And you basically just agreed with what I was saying from the start.
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Speaking in hypotheticals of course. And you basically just agreed with what I was saying from the start.

You haven't really said anything. You just disagreed that having the best qb gives you the best chance to win the division History says otherwise

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You haven't really said anything. You just disagreed that having the best qb gives you the best chance to win the division History says otherwise

My reasoning comes back around to who the best team at the right time is. And a lot of that will be on the QB, who may or may not have a good performance when it really matters, which we have seen a lot of from Manning.

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Yeah, I noticed that today.  But Kavell Conner played well this week in place of Manti T'eo who sprained a foot and sat out.   Freeney looked solid (the guys in camp have said he looks great).  Donald Brown was 3 for 22 with a long of 8 yards - not a bad day for about a little less than 1/2 or so of the game.   

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Yeah, I noticed that today.  But Kavell Conner played well this week in place of Manti T'eo who sprained a foot and sat out.   Freeney looked solid (the guys in camp have said he looks great).  Donald Brown was 3 for 22 with a long of 8 yards - not a bad day for about a little less than 1/2 or so of the game.

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Hmm. Well best is subjective but I'll humor you. Foles isn't better than Romo or Griffin, not traditionally. Dalton and Flacco are about even but Ben is the best in the North. The other divisions shook out like they should have but usually it isn't as clean cut.

 

I disagree...at least on the Griffin remark.  I'm not sure I'd say Foles is better than Romo today but I definitely think he will get there, but right now, or even in the 2012 draft, I would have rather had Foles over RG3 without even a split second of hesitation.

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I disagree...at least on the Griffin remark. I'm not sure I'd say Foles is better than Romo today but I definitely think he will get there, but right now, or even in the 2012 draft, I would have rather had Foles over RG3 without even a split second of hesitation.

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I disagree...at least on the Griffin remark. I'm not sure I'd say Foles is better than Romo today but I definitely think he will get there, but right now, or even in the 2012 draft, I would have rather had Foles over RG3 without even a split second of hesitation.

Meh. I wany to see more before I say that Foles is better. He could prove me wrong this season, we will see.
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Meh. I wany to see more before I say that Foles is better. He could prove me wrong this season, we will see.

 

Fair enough.  I watched every game of his during his senior year at Arizona so I'm not the least bit surprised he's played well in the NFL.  I just wish he'd have been the starter from day 1 in Philly.  I also saw most of RG3's games and several of the other QBs in that class.  Honestly I was never all that impressed with RG3 and questioned (still do) whether his skill set would truly translate to a successful NFL QB.  

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Fair enough.  I watched every game of his during his senior year at Arizona so I'm not the least bit surprised he's played well in the NFL.  I just wish he'd have been the starter from day 1 in Philly.  I also saw most of RG3's games and several of the other QBs in that class.  Honestly I was never all that impressed with RG3 and questioned (still do) whether his skill set would truly translate to a successful NFL QB.  

Yeah living here in Texas I got to see plenty of RG as well. The guy was a straight up baller in college and I was one of the few who thought he and Andrew were legitimately battling for that number one pick spot. I have high expectations for him going forward, because last year needs to be forgotten for him. I remember Foles in college too, he knew he what he was doing, but I wasn't surprised at all that he was a back-up at first. Now that he's been given his chance, he might be able to stand out and prove that he should have gone higher than he was picked and that he can be solid in the NFL, ala Russell Wilson.

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From a guy who thought Schaub was good

Which has no bearing on what we are talking about. But Schaub and anything Texans related is your go to, super-lame argument when I'm involved. Your "source" makes no sense whatsoever.

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Which has no bearing on what we are talking about. But Schaub and anything Texans related is your go to, super-lame argument. Your "source" makes no sense whatsoever.

Bob has been terrible since November of his rookie season. Foles has been excellent.

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Bob has been terrible since November of his rookie season. Foles has been excellent.

Robert Griffin stats: 3,200 yards, 65% completion percentage 8.14 average yards per throw, 20 passing TDs, 7 rushing TDs 5 Ints, 102.4 QB rating his first year as a starter.

Nick Foles stats: 60.8 completion percentage, 6.4 yards per throw, 6 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 5 INTs, 79.1 passer rating.

Yeah Foles definitely blew him out of the water that first year. And your eyes being a source for your opinion of Gruden wanting Foles rather than Griffin still has me laughing.

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Robert Griffin stats: 3,200 yards, 65% completion percentage 8.14 average yards per throw, 20 passing TDs, 7 rushing TDs 5 Ints, 102.4 QB rating his first year as a starter.

Nick Foles stats: 60.8 completion percentage, 6.4 yards per throw, 6 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 5 INTs, 79.1 passer rating.

Yeah Foles definitely blew him out of the water that first year. And your eyes being a source for your opinion of Gruden wanting Foles rather than Griffin still has me laughing.

Why didn't you post last years stats? And win loss record

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Why didn't you post last years stats? And win loss record

You said that Griffin was terrible since his rookie year, which simply isn't true. One of the guys had a better year than the other one year, while the other had a better year this past season. And win/loss record is a team stat, is it not? Both guys have missed games in their two years anyway so I don't see how it could be a full indicator of how well they are doing.

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You said that Griffin was terrible since his rookie year, which simply isn't true. One of the guys had a better year than the other one year, while the other had a better year this past season. And win/loss record is a team stat, is it not? Both guys have missed games in their two years anyway so I don't see how it could be a full indicator of how well they are doing.

I said bob has been terrible since NOVEMBER of his rookie year.

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I guess he was hurt all of last year, and so far this preseason? What will the excuse be at midseason?

I'm sure you've came back from a terrible ACL and played QB before so you know all about what Robert is going through. You are the king of excuses though so I'm sure we will see plenty when Griffin gets back to playing great football.
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I'm sure you've came back from a terrible ACL and played QB before so you know all about what Robert is going through. You are the king of excuses though so I'm sure we will see plenty when Griffin gets back to playing great football.

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