Secondary Coach

[compuls1v3]

I feel we have good/great HC, OC, WR coach, LB coach, OL coach, DL coach.  But who is our CB and Safety coach, and do our players need a better coach?

[holeymoley99]

Ron Milus, his 3rd year with us 24 years at NFL level.  Was with the Chargers for 7 seasons,

[OLD FAN MAN]

5 hours ago, holeymoley99 said:

Ron Milus, his 3rd year with us 24 years at NFL level.  Was with the Chargers for 7 seasons,

he should be good, is it just a lack of proven talent?

[compuls1v3]

Has he shaped any good CBs?  So if he's been here 3 years, he's not one of Steichen's guys?

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

he should be good, is it just a lack of proven talent?

My guess probably.  Brents was a 2nd round pick with an injury history.  Blackmon and Cross were 3rd rounders and we know Cross was very young when drafted.  Flowers UDFA and Jones a 7th round pick.  Blackmon is it so far and Kenny of course.  So I would say Milus has been given more clay to develop than top level college talent. Hopefully they come together this season.

[compuls1v3]

Just now, richard pallo said:

My guess probably.  Brents was a 2nd round pick with an injury history.  Blackmon and Cross were 3rd rounders and we know Cross was very young when drafted.  Flowers UDFA and Jones a 7th round pick.  Blackmon is it so far and Kenny of course.  So I would say Milus has been given more clay to develop than top level college talent. Hopefully they come together this season.

That's fair.  Hopefully we do well enough that the next step is getting a lock down corner.  I know that's not Ballard's MO, but it would be nice considering it's a passing league...

[Smonroe]

41 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

My guess probably.  Brents was a 2nd round pick with an injury history.  Blackmon and Cross were 3rd rounders and we know Cross was very young when drafted.  Flowers UDFA and Jones a 7th round pick.  Blackmon is it so far and Kenny of course.  So I would say Milus has been given more clay to develop than top level college talent. Hopefully they come together this season.

True.  We all complain about Gus’s soft coverage.  But when you have two inexperienced CBs, neither one very fast, you need to keep the play in front of you.  
 

It’s kind of scary to me.  We have two proven players, Kenny and Blackmon.  If either of them gets injured we’re in trouble.  
 

What’s the over/under on how many games Juju finishes?  10?

[John Hammonds]

7 hours ago, holeymoley99 said:

Ron Milus, his 3rd year with us 24 years at NFL level.  Was with the Chargers for 7 seasons,

Ron Milus was with the Chargers from 2013 to 2020

 

2013 - 23rd ranked defense, 29th vs pass / FS Eric Weddle went to pro bowl with 2 INT's, 9 PD's, 1 FF, 1 sack, 115 combined tackles

2014 - 9th ranked defense, 4th vs pass / FS Eric Weddle to pro bowl and 1st time all pro, 1 INT, 8 PD's, 114 combined tackles / CB Brandon Flowers had 3 INT's, 10 PD's, 52 combined tackles

2015 - 20th ranked defense, 14th vs pass / CB Jason Verrett made pro bowl with 3 INT's, 12 PD's, 47 combined tackles / DE Melvin Ingram had 10 sacks

2016 - 16th ranked defense, 20th vs pass / CB Casey Hayward made pro bowl with 7 INT's, 20 PD's, 58 combined tackles / DE Joey Bosa had 10.5 sacks / DE Melvin Ingram had 8 sacks

2017 - DC Gus Bradley joins team / 15th ranked defense, 3rd vs pass / CB Casey Hayward made pro bowl with 4 INT's, 22 PD's, 40 combined tackles / FS Tre Boston with 5 INT's / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 12.5 sacks, 4 FF, 21 QB hits / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 10.5 sacks

2018 - 9th ranked defense, 9th vs pass / FS Derwin James pro bowl with 3 INT's, 13 PD's, 3.5 sacks, 105 tackles / DB Desmond King 1st time all pro with 3 INT's, 10 PD's, 62 tackles / DB Adrian Phillips pro bowl with 1 INT, 9 PD's, 94 tackles / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 7 sacks, 16 QB hits, 8 TFL

2019 - 6th ranked defense, 5th vs pass / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 11.5 sacks, 31 QB hits, 18 TFL / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 7 sacks, 12 QB hits, 11 TFL

2020 - 10th ranked defense, 9th vs pass / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 7.5 sacks, 27 QB hits, 15 TFL

[compuls1v3]

35 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

Ron Milus was with the Chargers from 2013 to 2020

 

2013 - 23rd ranked defense, 29th vs pass / FS Eric Weddle went to pro bowl with 2 INT's, 9 PD's, 1 FF, 1 sack, 115 combined tackles

2014 - 9th ranked defense, 4th vs pass / FS Eric Weddle to pro bowl and 1st time all pro, 1 INT, 8 PD's, 114 combined tackles / CB Brandon Flowers had 3 INT's, 10 PD's, 52 combined tackles

2015 - 20th ranked defense, 14th vs pass / CB Jason Verrett made pro bowl with 3 INT's, 12 PD's, 47 combined tackles / DE Melvin Ingram had 10 sacks

2016 - 16th ranked defense, 20th vs pass / CB Casey Hayward made pro bowl with 7 INT's, 20 PD's, 58 combined tackles / DE Joey Bosa had 10.5 sacks / DE Melvin Ingram had 8 sacks

2017 - DC Gus Bradley joins team / 15th ranked defense, 3rd vs pass / CB Casey Hayward made pro bowl with 4 INT's, 22 PD's, 40 combined tackles / FS Tre Boston with 5 INT's / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 12.5 sacks, 4 FF, 21 QB hits / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 10.5 sacks

2018 - 9th ranked defense, 9th vs pass / FS Derwin James pro bowl with 3 INT's, 13 PD's, 3.5 sacks, 105 tackles / DB Desmond King 1st time all pro with 3 INT's, 10 PD's, 62 tackles / DB Adrian Phillips pro bowl with 1 INT, 9 PD's, 94 tackles / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 7 sacks, 16 QB hits, 8 TFL

2019 - 6th ranked defense, 5th vs pass / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 11.5 sacks, 31 QB hits, 18 TFL / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 7 sacks, 12 QB hits, 11 TFL

2020 - 10th ranked defense, 9th vs pass / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 7.5 sacks, 27 QB hits, 15 TFL

Thanks!  I also found this on the Colts website.   https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/ron-milus. Maybe he's not the issue.

[richard pallo]

3 hours ago, John Hammonds said:

Ron Milus was with the Chargers from 2013 to 2020

 

2013 - 23rd ranked defense, 29th vs pass / FS Eric Weddle went to pro bowl with 2 INT's, 9 PD's, 1 FF, 1 sack, 115 combined tackles

2014 - 9th ranked defense, 4th vs pass / FS Eric Weddle to pro bowl and 1st time all pro, 1 INT, 8 PD's, 114 combined tackles / CB Brandon Flowers had 3 INT's, 10 PD's, 52 combined tackles

2015 - 20th ranked defense, 14th vs pass / CB Jason Verrett made pro bowl with 3 INT's, 12 PD's, 47 combined tackles / DE Melvin Ingram had 10 sacks

2016 - 16th ranked defense, 20th vs pass / CB Casey Hayward made pro bowl with 7 INT's, 20 PD's, 58 combined tackles / DE Joey Bosa had 10.5 sacks / DE Melvin Ingram had 8 sacks

2017 - DC Gus Bradley joins team / 15th ranked defense, 3rd vs pass / CB Casey Hayward made pro bowl with 4 INT's, 22 PD's, 40 combined tackles / FS Tre Boston with 5 INT's / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 12.5 sacks, 4 FF, 21 QB hits / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 10.5 sacks

2018 - 9th ranked defense, 9th vs pass / FS Derwin James pro bowl with 3 INT's, 13 PD's, 3.5 sacks, 105 tackles / DB Desmond King 1st time all pro with 3 INT's, 10 PD's, 62 tackles / DB Adrian Phillips pro bowl with 1 INT, 9 PD's, 94 tackles / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 7 sacks, 16 QB hits, 8 TFL

2019 - 6th ranked defense, 5th vs pass / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 11.5 sacks, 31 QB hits, 18 TFL / DE Melvin Ingram pro bowl with 7 sacks, 12 QB hits, 11 TFL

2020 - 10th ranked defense, 9th vs pass / DE Joey Bosa pro bowl with 7.5 sacks, 27 QB hits, 15 TFL

I would say he’s a very effective coach with a number of pro bowlers.  No complaints from me.