2021 Colts PFF after 9 games

EastStreet · November 10, 2021

Keeping it simple

Rounding up
Under 50 - Red
Over 70 - Blue
Format
- Player - comments
- Snap count % (per game)
- PFF grades (year to date, not per game)

Top 5 this week -
1. Kwity Paye - 90.1
2. Nyheim Hines - 89.9
3. Carson Wentz - 81.4
4. Eric Fisher - 79.0 (two weeks in a row!!!!!!!, AMEN)
5. Braden Smith - 78.4
Top 5 last week (wasn't out when I posted last week)
1. Jonathan Taylor - 79.4
2. Andrew Sendejo - 77.1
3. Eric Fisher - 76.1
4. George Odum - 74.7
5. Nyheim Hines - 73.3

Offense
- QB Note -
  - C Wentz QB - great rebound
    - 100%/93%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%
    - 60.1/67.8/68.5/72.6/73.8/80.6/74.9/67.5/70.6
  - S Ehlinger QB
    - DNP 1-8/2%
    - DNP 1-8/NA
- RB Note -
  - J Taylor RB - RB rotation/use was a blueprint for winning
    - 55/45%/48%/51%/52%/65%/69%/74%/69%
    - 60.3/60.5/64.1/71.2/73.8/75.1/76.5/80.7/80.8
  - N Hines RB - nice jump
    - 45%/37%/56%/31%/38%/23%/28%/31%/45%
    - 69.6/60.9/67.9/64.2/64.7/62.5/57.9/61.3/68.7
  - M Mack RB -
    - NA/19%/NA/31%/14%/19%/6%/1%/NA/
    - NA/53.8/NA/57.9/60.8/58.4/56.7/56.4/NA/
- TE Note -
  - J Doyle TE -
    - 59%/70%/57%/30%/72%/65%/74%/62%/68%
    - 64.7/71.2/68.1/72.1/75.1/72.2/70.4/67.3/68.8
  - M Alie-Cox TE - 5th in TE TDs. More Mo please
    - 51%/40%/46%/69%/45%/50%/63%/49%/61%
    - 50.0/51.2/56.1/61.4/65.2/64.9/66.9/63.6/65.9
  - K Granson TE -
    - 9%/9%/20%/42%/12%/8%/7%/12%/6%
    - NA/NA/NA/49.9/51.6/51.3/50.3/51.7/55.8
- WR Note
  - M Pittman WR - impressive
    - 97%/90%/93%/86%/88%/96%/91%/96%/85%
    - 60.8/68.8/72.7/69.7/71.2/71.3/75.8/76.5/77.3
  - Z Pascal WR -
    - 91%/91%/89%/82%/86%/85%/84%/94%/84%
    - 64.9/62.0/57.7/57.4/58.5/57.2/55.5/55.0/57.4
  - A Dulin WR -
    - 8%/39%/11%/17%/33%/27%/63%/36%/37%
    - NA/59.5/58.6/64.4/65.9/64.4/57.0/51.4/52.0
  - T Hilton -
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/50%/44%/NA/NA/
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/85.7/70.3/NA/NA/
  - D Patmon WR -
    - DNP first 8 games/32%
    - DNP first 8 games/54.0
  - M Strachan WR -
    - 24%/51%/NA/7%/3%/NA/NA/NA/5%
    - 75.2/62.3/NA/61.9/61.8/NA/NA/NA/61.7
  - P Campbell WR -
    - 61%/NA/80%/44%/55%/10%/NA/NA/NA/
    - 62.6/NA/56.9/53.8/60.1/63.1/NA/NA/NA/
  - Keke Coutee
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/6%/NA/NA/
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/58.0/NA/NA/
  - D Harris WR
    - NA/3%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/
- OL Note -
  - E Fisher LT - Still improving a little at a time
    - NA/73%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%
    - NA/ 62.0(1)/54.1(3)/41.8(3)/46.5(4)/52.3(4)/58.6(4)/63.1(4)/66.8(4)
  - Q Nelson G -
    - 100%/100%/21%/NA/NA/NA/100%/100%/94%
    - 72.7/63.9/69.3/NA/NA/NA/60.4/58.9/61.4
  - R Kelly C -
    - 100%/100%/100%/96%/99%/100%/100%/100%/100%
    - 67.9/68.8(1)/68.2(1)/55.2(2)/52.8(2)/53.8(2)/52.3(2)/55.2(2)/56.4(2)
  - M Glowinski G -
    - 100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/35%/5%/52%
    - 50.7/45.3/43.4(1)/47.6(1)/57.7(1)/58.0(1)/56.3(1)/56.7(2)/59.1(2)
  - B Smith RT - Great second week
    - 100%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/100%/73%
    - 60.8(1)/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/69.0(1)/73.9(1)
  - C Reed OG -
    - NA/NA/79%/100%/100%/100%/65%/95%/55%
    - NA/NA/68.6/58.7/67.7/65.4/67.5/60.3/59.6
  - M Pryor OT - still grading strong
    - NA/27%/28%/42%/100%/100%/100%/NA/27%
    - NA/62.3/66.5/64.0/71.2/76.3/69.5/NA/74.3
  - D Pinter G/C - TD!!
    - NA/NA/NA/14%/3%/2%/9%/NA/5%
    - NA/NA/NA/77.0/76.0/75.7/82.5/NA/77.1
  - J Davenport T -
    - 100%/100%/72%/58%/NA/NA/NA/NA/
    - 59.8(2)/43.0(2)/47.4(2)/47.2(3)/NA/NA/NA/
Defense
- iDL Note -
  - D Buckner DT - 75+ snaps is just too high...
    - 87%/88%/76%/85%/82%/71%/84%/81%/84%
    - 59.6/71.3/66.9(1)/73.5 (1)/68.8 (1)/73.7(2)/73.8(3)/71.1(4), 71.5(4)
  - G Stewart NT - very solid
    - 81%/75%/69%/50%/67%/57%/52%/66%/42%
    - 62.9/66.9/65.8/69.9(1)/66.3(1)/67.4(1)/68.2(1)/69.6(1)/71.2(1)
  - T Stallworth DT - what's going on here lol
    - 13%/27%/NA/19%/15%/37%/16%/19%/29%
    - 44.2/39.4/NA/43.5/51.4/61.3/63.2/59.5(1)/70.6(3)
  - A Woods -
    - NA/NA/18%/NA/NA/NA/16%/18%/5%
    - NA/NA/54.3/NA/NA/NA/56.7/62.5/66.0
  - C Williams -
    - NA/NA/18%/6%/14%/NA/NA/NA/NA/
    - NA/NA/55.5/55.3/50.4/NA/NA/NA/NA/
  - K Davis -
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/8%/ Cut
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/56.4/NA/ Cut
- DE Note -
  - K Paye DE - still grading well, still no sacks.
    - 76%/69%/10%/NA/NA/59%/73%/79%
    - 77.7/75.1/74.2/NA/NA/73.1/76.1/71.5/79.0
  - A Muhammad DE -.
    - 70%/61%/78%/83%/82%/65%/84%/78%/71%
    - 68.0(1)/67.7(2)/66.7(2)/68.1(2)/65.0(3)/64.3 3)/64.0(4)/64.8(4)/63.7(4)
  - D Odeyingbo - dip up in snaps, dip down in grades. Keep increasing those snaps little by little.
    - NFI through G7/22%/32%
    - NFI through G7/59.1/54.2
  - K Turay DE - better game
    - NA/19%/34%/46%/42%/NA/NA/21%/32%
    - NA/44.4/49.5/62.9(2)/55.3(2)/NA/NA/43.4(3)/49.5(3)
  - I Rochell - still solid
    - NA/NA/NA/17%/NA/27%/16%/NA/34%
    - NA/NA/NA/90.8/NA/89.5/79.0/NA/69.2
  - B Banogu DE -
    - 11%/7%/19%/12%/16%/9%/NA/NA/NA/
    - 54.1/59.5/60.2/61.4/58.8/59.8/NA/NA/NA/
  - T Lewis DE - Unfortunate. Graded well all year
    - 54%/54%/78%/83%/81%/67%/59%/16% - Out for season
    - 66.7/69.7/79.5/76.4/76.2(2)/72.9(2)/70.4(2)/71.8(3)
- LB Note -
  - B Okereke LB - little step back.
    - 100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/99%/96%
    - 58.3/57.4/53.1/65.5/55.8/ 60.1/64.7/65.4/61.1
  - D Leonard LB -
    - 100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/89%/100%/100%/100%
    - 71.3/69.5/70.1/72.2/68.1/77.3/77.5/76.1/74.1
  - Z Franklin LB -
    - 24%/5%/31%/15%/14%/16%/30%/16%/8%
    - 52.9/58.9/50.3/57.4/58.9/60.2/57.2/56.7/58.1
  - EJ Speed LB - several mistakes, but got a FoFu IIRC
    - NA/NA/9%/NA/NA/11%/14%/14%/1%
    - NA/NA/64.6/NA/NA/79.6/76.1/52.4/53.0
- CB Note -
  - Rhodes - bad whiff on a tackle
    - NA/NA/91%/98%/56%/97%/86%/97%/55%
    - NA/NA/41.2/47.2/53.9/63.8/ 63.4/59.6/58.5
  - R Ya-Sin CB - putting together a very solid year
    - 100%/98%/49%/NA/NA/55%/NA/73%/83%
    - 63.7/62.5/73.2/NA/NA/69.3/NA/68.5/65.1
  - K Moore CB -
    - 96%/97%/99%/100%/100%/100%/100%/99%/100%
    - 56.1/42.9/48.7/54.7/55.5/54.3/52.5/55.2/58.7
  - I Rodgers CB - 3 solid games in a row
    - 11%/31%/22%/85%/82%/29%/55%/3%/53%
    - 46.7/33.9/43.2/49.7/52.4/66.2/NA/66.2/67.3
  - B Keyes -
    - NA/NA/NA/2%/7%/3%/NA/NA/NA/
    - NA/NA/NA/60.0/25.9/26.2/NA/NA/NA/
  - A Chesley - not bad
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/41%/NA/14%/NA/4%
    - NA/NA/NA/NA/62.1/NA/67.4/NA/71.6
  - T Carrie CB - FS please!
    - 69%/69%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/
    - 60.6/58.8/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/
- Safety Note -
  - A Sendejo - step back from a great game vs TN, but still the lowest passer rating allowed on the team. Missed Ts are an issue though.
    - NA/NA/32%/100%/64%/NA/79%/100%/100%
    - NA/NA/69.3/61.9/59.7/NA/57.5/65.2/58.5
  - G Odum - Not bad and better than expected
    - NA/NA/3%/NA/14%/3%/21%/78%/100%
    - NA/NA/60.0/ NA/50.5/51.9/59.6/71.4/64.2
  - K Willis SS -
    - 100%/100%/68%/NA/26%/97%/100%/22%/NA/
    - 40.6/47.0/41.1/NA/NA/37.5/49.0/52.3/50.5/NA/
  - J Blackmon FS -
    - 100%/100%/97%/100%/96%/100%/NA/NA/NA/
    - 53.4/64.6/64.4/60.9/57.8/60.7/NA/NA/NA/

coltsfanej · November 10, 2021

Thanks for the update!

EastStreet · November 10, 2021

K-148 · November 10, 2021

Top 5 this week: signed (Fisher), resigned (Smith, Hines), drafted (Paye), traded for (Wentz) this offseason. Here are the money for someone like Autry or Houston. Right here.

Colt.45 · November 10, 2021

Good to see Eric Fisher starting to round into form. Patience was always going to be the key with him.

IrsaysArmy · November 10, 2021

I refuse to believe Ryan Kelly has been playing that poorly. Our offense line dominated that game and he gets graded between 50-55? Also, Danny Pinter scores a touchdown on a “trick” play so he scores a 77? Doesn’t make sense

indyagent17 · November 10, 2021

It’s encouraging to see all trends are pointing up. I agree with another poster saying that the loss of Willis and Blackman are huge. Let’s hope that Paye Ian’s Dayo round into form and become the quarterback maulers l we hope they would be

Restinpeacesweetchloe · November 10, 2021

Smith played so well. Really impressed with how he came in with all the time missed and didn’t lose a beat. Hopefully his elbow is ok. The secondary giving so much room does not help Paye at all. QB get ball out quick. Paye is very close to getting those sacks if secondary can cover a little better.

TimetobringDfence! · November 10, 2021

15 hours ago, EastStreet said:

Keeping it simple

Rounding up

Under 50 - Red

Over 70 - Blue

Format
Player - comments

Snap count % (per game)

PFF grades (year to date, not per game)

Top 5 this week -
Kwity Paye - 90.1

Nyheim Hines - 89.9

Carson Wentz - 81.4

Eric Fisher - 79.0 (two weeks in a row!!!!!!!, AMEN)

Braden Smith - 78.4

Top 5 last week (wasn't out when I posted last week)
Jonathan Taylor - 79.4

Andrew Sendejo - 77.1

Eric Fisher - 76.1

George Odum - 74.7

Nyheim Hines - 73.3

Offense
QB Note -
C Wentz QB - great rebound
100%/93%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%

60.1/67.8/68.5/72.6/73.8/80.6/74.9/67.5/70.6

S Ehlinger QB
DNP 1-8/2%

DNP 1-8/NA

RB Note -
J Taylor RB - RB rotation/use was a blueprint for winning
55/45%/48%/51%/52%/65%/69%/74%/69%

60.3/60.5/64.1/71.2/73.8/75.1/76.5/80.7/80.8

N Hines RB - nice jump
45%/37%/56%/31%/38%/23%/28%/31%/45%

69.6/60.9/67.9/64.2/64.7/62.5/57.9/61.3/68.7

M Mack RB -
NA/19%/NA/31%/14%/19%/6%/1%/NA/

NA/53.8/NA/57.9/60.8/58.4/56.7/56.4/NA/

TE Note -
J Doyle TE -
59%/70%/57%/30%/72%/65%/74%/62%/68%

64.7/71.2/68.1/72.1/75.1/72.2/70.4/67.3/68.8

M Alie-Cox TE - 5th in TE TDs. More Mo please
51%/40%/46%/69%/45%/50%/63%/49%/61%

50.0/51.2/56.1/61.4/65.2/64.9/66.9/63.6/65.9

K Granson TE -
9%/9%/20%/42%/12%/8%/7%/12%/6%

NA/NA/NA/49.9/51.6/51.3/50.3/51.7/55.8

WR Note
M Pittman WR - impressive
97%/90%/93%/86%/88%/96%/91%/96%/85%

60.8/68.8/72.7/69.7/71.2/71.3/75.8/76.5/77.3

Z Pascal WR -
91%/91%/89%/82%/86%/85%/84%/94%/84%

64.9/62.0/57.7/57.4/58.5/57.2/55.5/55.0/57.4

A Dulin WR -
8%/39%/11%/17%/33%/27%/63%/36%/37%

NA/59.5/58.6/64.4/65.9/64.4/57.0/51.4/52.0

T Hilton -
NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/50%/44%/NA/NA/

NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/85.7/70.3/NA/NA/

D Patmon WR -
DNP first 8 games/32%

DNP first 8 games/54.0

M Strachan WR -
24%/51%/NA/7%/3%/NA/NA/NA/5%

75.2/62.3/NA/61.9/61.8/NA/NA/NA/61.7

P Campbell WR -
61%/NA/80%/44%/55%/10%/NA/NA/NA/

62.6/NA/56.9/53.8/60.1/63.1/NA/NA/NA/

Keke Coutee
NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/6%/NA/NA/

NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/58.0/NA/NA/

D Harris WR
NA/3%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/

NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/

OL Note -
E Fisher LT - Still improving a little at a time
NA/73%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%

NA/ 62.0(1)/54.1(3)/41.8(3)/46.5(4)/52.3(4)/58.6(4)/63.1(4)/66.8(4)

Q Nelson G -
100%/100%/21%/NA/NA/NA/100%/100%/94%

72.7/63.9/69.3/NA/NA/NA/60.4/58.9/61.4

R Kelly C -
100%/100%/100%/96%/99%/100%/100%/100%/100%

67.9/68.8(1)/68.2(1)/55.2(2)/52.8(2)/53.8(2)/52.3(2)/55.2(2)/56.4(2)

M Glowinski G -
100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/35%/5%/52%

50.7/45.3/43.4(1)/47.6(1)/57.7(1)/58.0(1)/56.3(1)/56.7(2)/59.1(2)

B Smith RT - Great second week
100%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/100%/73%

60.8(1)/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/69.0(1)/73.9(1)

C Reed OG -
NA/NA/79%/100%/100%/100%/65%/95%/55%

NA/NA/68.6/58.7/67.7/65.4/67.5/60.3/59.6

M Pryor OT - still grading strong
NA/27%/28%/42%/100%/100%/100%/NA/27%

NA/62.3/66.5/64.0/71.2/76.3/69.5/NA/74.3

D Pinter G/C - TD!!
NA/NA/NA/14%/3%/2%/9%/NA/5%

NA/NA/NA/77.0/76.0/75.7/82.5/NA/77.1

J Davenport T -
100%/100%/72%/58%/NA/NA/NA/NA/

59.8(2)/43.0(2)/47.4(2)/47.2(3)/NA/NA/NA/

Defense
iDL Note -
D Buckner DT - 75+ snaps is just too high...
87%/88%/76%/85%/82%/71%/84%/81%/84%

59.6/71.3/66.9(1)/73.5 (1)/68.8 (1)/73.7(2)/73.8(3)/71.1(4), 71.5(4)

G Stewart NT - very solid
81%/75%/69%/50%/67%/57%/52%/66%/42%

62.9/66.9/65.8/69.9(1)/66.3(1)/67.4(1)/68.2(1)/69.6(1)/71.2(1)

T Stallworth DT - what's going on here lol
13%/27%/NA/19%/15%/37%/16%/19%/29%

44.2/39.4/NA/43.5/51.4/61.3/63.2/59.5(1)/70.6(3)

A Woods -
NA/NA/18%/NA/NA/NA/16%/18%/5%

NA/NA/54.3/NA/NA/NA/56.7/62.5/66.0

C Williams -
NA/NA/18%/6%/14%/NA/NA/NA/NA/

NA/NA/55.5/55.3/50.4/NA/NA/NA/NA/

K Davis -
NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/8%/ Cut

NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/56.4/NA/ Cut

DE Note -
K Paye DE - still grading well, still no sacks.
76%/69%/10%/NA/NA/59%/73%/79%

77.7/75.1/74.2/NA/NA/73.1/76.1/71.5/79.0

A Muhammad DE -.
70%/61%/78%/83%/82%/65%/84%/78%/71%

68.0(1)/67.7(2)/66.7(2)/68.1(2)/65.0(3)/64.3 3)/64.0(4)/64.8(4)/63.7(4)

D Odeyingbo - dip up in snaps, dip down in grades. Keep increasing those snaps little by little.
NFI through G7/22%/32%

NFI through G7/59.1/54.2

K Turay DE - better game
NA/19%/34%/46%/42%/NA/NA/21%/32%

NA/44.4/49.5/62.9(2)/55.3(2)/NA/NA/43.4(3)/49.5(3)

I Rochell - still solid
NA/NA/NA/17%/NA/27%/16%/NA/34%

NA/NA/NA/90.8/NA/89.5/79.0/NA/69.2

B Banogu DE -
11%/7%/19%/12%/16%/9%/NA/NA/NA/

54.1/59.5/60.2/61.4/58.8/59.8/NA/NA/NA/

T Lewis DE - Unfortunate. Graded well all year
54%/54%/78%/83%/81%/67%/59%/16% - Out for season

66.7/69.7/79.5/76.4/76.2(2)/72.9(2)/70.4(2)/71.8(3)

LB Note -
B Okereke LB - little step back.
100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/99%/96%

58.3/57.4/53.1/65.5/55.8/ 60.1/64.7/65.4/61.1

D Leonard LB -
100%/100%/100%/100%/100%/89%/100%/100%/100%

71.3/69.5/70.1/72.2/68.1/77.3/77.5/76.1/74.1

Z Franklin LB -
24%/5%/31%/15%/14%/16%/30%/16%/8%

52.9/58.9/50.3/57.4/58.9/60.2/57.2/56.7/58.1

EJ Speed LB - several mistakes, but got a FoFu IIRC
NA/NA/9%/NA/NA/11%/14%/14%/1%

NA/NA/64.6/NA/NA/79.6/76.1/52.4/53.0

CB Note -
Rhodes - bad whiff on a tackle
NA/NA/91%/98%/56%/97%/86%/97%/55%

NA/NA/41.2/47.2/53.9/63.8/ 63.4/59.6/58.5

R Ya-Sin CB - putting together a very solid year
100%/98%/49%/NA/NA/55%/NA/73%/83%

63.7/62.5/73.2/NA/NA/69.3/NA/68.5/65.1

K Moore CB -
96%/97%/99%/100%/100%/100%/100%/99%/100%

56.1/42.9/48.7/54.7/55.5/54.3/52.5/55.2/58.7

I Rodgers CB - 3 solid games in a row
11%/31%/22%/85%/82%/29%/55%/3%/53%

46.7/33.9/43.2/49.7/52.4/66.2/NA/66.2/67.3

B Keyes -
NA/NA/NA/2%/7%/3%/NA/NA/NA/

NA/NA/NA/60.0/25.9/26.2/NA/NA/NA/

A Chesley - not bad
NA/NA/NA/NA/41%/NA/14%/NA/4%

NA/NA/NA/NA/62.1/NA/67.4/NA/71.6

T Carrie CB - FS please!
69%/69%/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/

60.6/58.8/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/NA/

Safety Note -
A Sendejo - step back from a great game vs TN, but still the lowest passer rating allowed on the team. Missed Ts are an issue though.
NA/NA/32%/100%/64%/NA/79%/100%/100%

NA/NA/69.3/61.9/59.7/NA/57.5/65.2/58.5

G Odum - Not bad and better than expected
NA/NA/3%/NA/14%/3%/21%/78%/100%

NA/NA/60.0/ NA/50.5/51.9/59.6/71.4/64.2

K Willis SS -
100%/100%/68%/NA/26%/97%/100%/22%/NA/

40.6/47.0/41.1/NA/NA/37.5/49.0/52.3/50.5/NA/

J Blackmon FS -
100%/100%/97%/100%/96%/100%/NA/NA/NA/

53.4/64.6/64.4/60.9/57.8/60.7/NA/NA/NA/

Carrie to FS is a great concept. We haven't had a true FS since Mike Adams. Hooker came close but never played a full solid season...Our secondary plays like a bunch of SSs lol. Everyone can tackle Derrick Henry but can't cover a pass...

EastStreet · November 10, 2021

10 hours ago, K-148 said:

Top 5 this week: signed (Fisher), resigned (Smith, Hines), drafted (Paye), traded for (Wentz) this offseason. Here are the money for someone like Autry or Houston. Right here.

Not sure I'd look at it that way at all.

Wentz - costed us less than Rivers. IIRC, PR was 25M, Wentz about 21M this year, so we saved 4M in cash.
Paye is on a rook deal and likely costs less than half of what Autry would have costed us. So say average savings of 3.5M. Houston signed a low dollar deal this year and IIRC is making a little more than Paye's rook deal. So savings of total ~7M on DEs....
Hines has been hit or miss, and IMO, still isn't worth top 10 RB pay. Love him, but high price. But overall, we're still on the lower half of RB positional spending, so below average in total $ allocated towards RB. So not really stealing money from pot.

What is tilting things the most, is our #2 total spend on OL. But Fisher specifically was a 8-9M savings compared to Castonzo.

5 hours ago, Colt.45 said:

Good to see Eric Fisher starting to round into form. Patience was always going to be the key with him.

Agreed. I just hope his good grades aren't a product of weaker guys across the line. He'll see some pretty decent guys this week. If he doesn't get boat raced, I'm going to buy into the hype. I do feel for him as I think he was rushed back too soon.

4 hours ago, IrsaysArmy said:

I refuse to believe Ryan Kelly has been playing that poorly. Our offense line dominated that game and he gets graded between 50-55? Also, Danny Pinter scores a touchdown on a “trick” play so he scores a 77? Doesn’t make sense

Kelly has been getting bullied at times. Not horrible, but definitely not playing to his pay. A great example is when he and the RG were doubling Autry, the RG peeled off, and Autry abused Kelly and got to Wentz quickly (it's the play Wentz tossed the INT near the goal line).

1 hour ago, indyagent17 said:

It’s encouraging to see all trends are pointing up. I agree with another poster saying that the loss of Willis and Blackman are huge. Let’s hope that Paye Ian’s Dayo round into form and become the quarterback maulers l we hope they would be

Willis and Blackman were both playing poor to mediocre. Blackmon was allowing a 135ish passer rating, Willis a 119. That's just not good. Blackman was leading DBs in missed Ts before he went out, and Willis was leading in TDs allowed. Sendejo has the best passer rating allowed of all of our DBs at 66.2. And he's been forced to play out of position. Odum is another story, but we all knew his limitations. He did have a good game two weeks ago though.

1 hour ago, TimetobringDfence! said:

Carrie to FS is a great concept. We haven't had a true FS since Mike Adams. Hooker came close but never played a full solid season...Our secondary plays like a bunch of SSs lol. Everyone can tackle Derrick Henry but can't cover a pass...

Not like a bunch of SS, they are a bunch of SSs lol..

Sendejo strangely has a great passer rating allowed, and some missed Ts.

K-148 · November 11, 2021

14 hours ago, EastStreet said:

Not sure I'd look at it that way at all.

Wentz - costed us less than Rivers. IIRC, PR was 25M, Wentz about 21M this year, so we saved 4M in cash.

Paye is on a rook deal and likely costs less than half of what Autry would have costed us. So say average savings of 3.5M. Houston signed a low dollar deal this year and IIRC is making a little more than Paye's rook deal. So savings of total ~7M on DEs....

Hines has been hit or miss, and IMO, still isn't worth top 10 RB pay. Love him, but high price. But overall, we're still on the lower half of RB positional spending, so below average in total $ allocated towards RB. So not really stealing money from pot.

What is tilting things the most, is our #2 total spend on OL. But Fisher specifically was a 8-9M savings compared to Castonzo.

Agreed. I just hope his good grades aren't a product of weaker guys across the line. He'll see some pretty decent guys this week. If he doesn't get boat raced, I'm going to buy into the hype. I do feel for him as I think he was rushed back too soon.

Kelly has been getting bullied at times. Not horrible, but definitely not playing to his pay. A great example is when he and the RG were doubling Autry, the RG peeled off, and Autry abused Kelly and got to Wentz quickly (it's the play Wentz tossed the INT near the goal line).

Willis and Blackman were both playing poor to mediocre. Blackmon was allowing a 135ish passer rating, Willis a 119. That's just not good. Blackman was leading DBs in missed Ts before he went out, and Willis was leading in TDs allowed. Sendejo has the best passer rating allowed of all of our DBs at 66.2. And he's been forced to play out of position. Odum is another story, but we all knew his limitations. He did have a good game two weeks ago though.

Not like a bunch of SS, they are a bunch of SSs lol..

Sendejo strangely has a great passer rating allowed, and some missed Ts.

You are right. I just want to say, that with all that savings the Colts have just 2.4M cap space. And that 'savings' are playing well.

EastStreet · November 11, 2021

10 hours ago, K-148 said:

You are right. I just want to say, that with all that savings the Colts have just 2.4M cap space. And that 'savings' are playing well.

I agree to an extent. Wentz is playing well, so the QB position's net savings is great.

The savings along the DL however have not translated into same or better play. We have been worse from a pass rush perspective.

Fisher has been playing well the last couple games, but before that gave up 4 sacks, and was getting abused by good DLs. He hasn't been challenged by good comp lately, so let's hope his resurgence is due to good health, and not poor comp. He'll be tested a bit this week vs good, not elite comp. Overall, though, the OL has been up and down, yet paid near the top. Need them to get healthy and better.

SOMDColtsfan · November 12, 2021

We're halfway through the season, starting to see some "trends" and not just one game wonders. Wentz and Pittman are def top 10 material at their position stat wise. J Taylor is on pace to lead league with Henry out. Okereke, Leonard, Moore and Buckner are all top tier on defense stat wise.

throwing BBZ · November 12, 2021

On 11/10/2021 at 1:50 AM, K-148 said:

Top 5 this week: signed (Fisher), resigned (Smith, Hines), drafted (Paye), traded for (Wentz) this offseason. Here are the money for someone like Autry or Houston. Right here.

Endless whining we didn't go out and sign in FA, not the right guys, not the right draft picks, not the right $$$. We ALL want to win now!!!!
Sorry, it's the NFL, teams, schedules, players, coaching, Always changing.
If you find your team in the playoff hunt come December it's a good season.
The GOAT Manning had 7 one and dones in the playoffs with the winningest 10 year period in the history of the NFL.
Getting all bent out of shape with our play early in this season, especially considering Wentz's lack of pre-season and ankle injury - was thick headed, showed a lack of perspective.
Can't wait to see where we are at come December.

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