Wr, Tight End.....who? How?

[oldunclemark]

I'm concerned....about Andrew Luck's running mates

I see Austin Collie and Reggie Wayne (bless his heart) at wide receiver.

But who else...Do we still have Blair White?

..and tight end is who..the big blocking kid from Oklahoma??

////Ease my mind here...we need 1/2 dozen pass catchers..

Who? and How?

any ideas...?

[Steve Waugh]

If i were Andrew Luck, i would think twice about the Colts.

I mean Colts are doing a complete clean up. Everyone is new from players to coaches to fo. And we dont know if they would work. First time coach. First time GM. Unless he has lots of patience, Red skins appears to be a good team to me at this point. Mike Shanahan is a quality SB winning coach.

[Flash7]

We're in luck that this year's draft is deep with receivers. We should be able to address this need in the second or third round. I also like Coby Fleener, as the TE. It would help Luck to have his previous go-to guy.

[Blackhawk4]

If i were Andrew Luck, i would think twice about the Colts.

I mean Colts are doing a complete clean up. Everyone is new from players to coaches to fo. And we dont know if they would work. First time coach. First time GM. Unless he has lots of patience, Red skins appears to be a good team to me at this point. Mike Shanahan is a quality SB winning coach.

It's not Luck's choice....The team drafts him, not the other way around....

The WR crop overall is pretty good. I think Stephen Hill would be a great fit for the colts and a target Luck can throw to for the next decade. I believe Hill learning from Wayne would be the most beneficial thing for him or any rookie WR we get in this draft. Tommy Streeter would be nice as well (The U ties w/ Wayne)

[likm]

If i were Andrew Luck, i would think twice about the Colts.

I mean Colts are doing a complete clean up. Everyone is new from players to coaches to fo. And we dont know if they would work. First time coach. First time GM. Unless he has lots of patience, Red skins appears to be a good team to me at this point. Mike Shanahan is a quality SB winning coach.

lol@redskins

[Steve Waugh]

It's not Luck's choice....The team drafts him, not the other way around....

Ever heard of Eli and Elway

[GoDeep]

It's not Luck's choice....The team drafts him, not the other way around....

Ever hear of Elway or Eli?

[UndecidedFrog]

Andrew Luck has seen this complete clean up before, at Stanford.

He chose to join Stanford after Stanford posted a 1-11 season, fired its old HC, and hired a new HC in Jim Harbaugh.

4 years later, after red-shirting his freshman year, he leaves Stanford with a 31-7 record, as the winningest QB in its history.

[GoDeep]

Ever heard of Eli and Elway

Great minds... lol

[Steve Waugh]

Great minds... lol

LOL thats freaky

[Steve Waugh]

Andrew Luck has seen this complete clean up before, at Stanford. He chose to join Stanford after Stanford posted a 1-11 season, fired its old HC, and hired a new HC in Jim Harbaugh. 4 years later, after red-shirting his freshman year, he leaves Stanford with a 31-7 record, as the winningest QB in its history.

NFL and College Football are very identical. Thats right.

There is a guy called Tim Tebow. Won Hiesman and 2 National Championships. Must be winning 8 SBs in 16 years NFL then.

[Blackhawk4]

Ever hear of Elway or Eli?

Ever heard of Eli and Elway

Ever hear of leverage? Back then Elway had leverage, especially being the #1 overall pick in the draft. Eli wasn't even the #1 overall pick and he only had a select few options who would swap picks with him. Elway had the leverage of playing baseball for the Yankees and Eli had the Manning name. Luck can't go to the colts and go "Draft me and I'm going to play so and so for xyz team". If you really think he can successfully demand to not play for the Colts you might want to take a look at the little to no leverage he has.

[Boiler_Colt]

I think Irsay has probably been in contact with Luck and if there was any indication that he wasn't going to sign here, then no way does Manning get cut.

[JoKeR]

Can we stop talking about rookies refusing to play for certain teams? Luck has stated he wont do that and it rarely happens. #1 draft picks always go to bad teams anyway.

[ruksak]

I'm concerned....about Andrew Luck's running mates

I see Austin Collie and Reggie Wayne (bless his heart) at wide receiver.

But who else...Do we still have Blair White?

..and tight end is who..the big blocking kid from Oklahoma??

////Ease my mind here...we need 1/2 dozen pass catchers..

Who? and How?

any ideas...?

I honestly don't know other than 6 more Tim (Tom?) Zbikowski's at WR.

Hey I know, can you catch a football Mark? Take 465 to 56th street, it's right there, you can't miss it.

[Steve Waugh]

Ever hear of leverage? Back then Elway had leverage, especially being the #1 overall pick in the draft. Eli wasn't even the #1 overall pick and he only had a select few options who would swap picks with him. Elway had the leverage of playing baseball for the Yankees and Eli had the Manning name. Luck can't go to the colts and go "Draft me and I'm going to play so and so for xyz team". If you really think he can successfully demand to not play for the Colts you might want to take a look at the little to no leverage he has.

Manning name is a leverage?. Ok.

[Steve Waugh]

Can we stop talking about rookies refusing to play for certain teams? Luck has stated he wont do that and it rarely happens. #1 draft picks always go to bad teams anyway.

Lol, are you nervous

[Phil J]

If i were Andrew Luck, i would think twice about the Colts.

not his choice!

also, he could have chosen not to go to Stanford, who was in a similar rebuilding mode, but he did. how did that work out for them?

[Happy2BeHere]

NFL and College Football are very identical. Thats right.

There is a guy called Tim Tebow. Won Hiesman and 2 National Championships. Must be winning 8 SBs in 16 years NFL then.

Why so pessimistic...it it beneficial to be that way? I guess for you it sure might be.....

[swifty1812]

NFL and College Football are very identical. Thats right.

There is a guy called Tim Tebow. Won Hiesman and 2 National Championships. Must be winning 8 SBs in 16 years NFL then.

Re-builds happen all the time in the NFL. Why would Luck want to go to Washington, where he knows he has an Owner that is going to try and run things like he is Jerry Jones? A team that is known for blowing loads of Cash on FAs only to have it come back to bite them?

[Phil J]

Lol, are you nervous

you seem to be.

[Blackhawk4]

NFL and College Football are very identical. Thats right.

There is a guy called Tim Tebow. Won Hiesman and 2 National Championships. Must be winning 8 SBs in 16 years NFL then.

It's the point that he's been through that's important. Doesn't mean it's going to go perfectly, but it having experience with going through a large amount of change makes it easier to go through later on if it happens.

Manning name is a leverage?. Ok.

Actually it was...Not sure how you don't understand that.

[oldunclemark]

But guys..how 'bout those recievers and tight ends we can grab up...

...we need big time speed to compliment Collie and Wayne

..and where's our 6-foot-7 Gronk-style tight end>

[B-B]

If i were Andrew Luck, i would think twice about the Colts.

I think Luck is too much of a stand up guy to want to care who he plays for

I'm concerned....about Andrew Luck's running mates

I see Austin Collie and Reggie Wayne (bless his heart) at wide receiver.

But who else...Do we still have Blair White?

..and tight end is who..the big blocking kid from Oklahoma??

////Ease my mind here...we need 1/2 dozen pass catchers..

Who? and How?

any ideas...?

There's a lot of receivers in the draft, it should work out fine, and we still have Blair White

[Flash7]

NFL and College Football are very identical. Thats right.

There is a guy called Tim Tebow. Won Hiesman and 2 National Championships. Must be winning 8 SBs in 16 years NFL then.

I think you're missing the point. He UF is saying that Luck was not afraid to step into a situation where a team was rebuilding, as mentioned earlier in this thread.

You are comparing how he played in college. It's not a similar comparison. The comparison that was being made is that he had made a similar decision in the past, and may not be afraid to do the same now by choosing to play with the Colts.

[UndecidedFrog]

NFL and College Football are very identical. Thats right.

There is a guy called Tim Tebow. Won Hiesman and 2 National Championships. Must be winning 8 SBs in 16 years NFL then.

I think you misunderstand.

I claimed that Andrew Luck has seen a total clean up before, and was unafraid of it.

He was unafraid of joining a previously 1-11 team.

What does that have to do with college football or professional football?

Isn't a clean up a clean up?

When you replace the entire coaching staff, that is a clean up, whether it is at the college level or the professional level.

[Steve Waugh]

Why so pessimistic...it it beneficial to be that way? I guess for you it sure might be.....

the what...can you just re-type that in french backwards

[Steve Waugh]

you seem to be.

Oh yeah, you got it

[JoKeR]

I'm concerned....about Andrew Luck's running mates

I see Austin Collie and Reggie Wayne (bless his heart) at wide receiver.

But who else...Do we still have Blair White?

..and tight end is who..the big blocking kid from Oklahoma??

////Ease my mind here...we need 1/2 dozen pass catchers..

Who? and How?

any ideas...?

Colts just need a #2 WR or a slotWR and a TE. No biggie just draft them, there plenty to choose from. I would not go to FA for these, draft them and let them grow with Luck.

[Phil J]

Steve is getting shown up pretty bad. any comebacks? LOL

[Steve Waugh]

I think you misunderstand. I claimed that Andrew Luck has seen a total clean up before, and was unafraid of it. What does that have to do with college football or professional football? Isn't a clean up a clean up? When you replace the entire coaching staff, that is a clean up, whether it is at the college level or the professional level.

Difference is magnitude, expectations, pressure, the game itself, money

[Steve Waugh]

Steve is getting shown up pretty bad. any comebacks? LOL

Nah man, Not against Dr.Phil

[Phil J]

Difference is magnitude, expectations, pressure, the game itself, money

sorry Andrew doesn't hate the organization as much as you do. we know YOU would pass. we're glad Andrew wants to help.

[oldunclemark]

I think Luck is too much of a stand up guy to want to care who he plays for

There's a lot of receivers in the draft, it should work out fine, and we still have Blair White

Folks laugh at his name..but I like Blair White...He's got good hands and he can take a hit..

These guys can make life easier for the new QB....

..but he needs to be working with his good-hands people right away......

[swifty1812]

Difference is magnitude, expectations, pressure, the game itself, money

Actually the only difference would be money, and he would get less by choosing to go somewhere else due to the wage scale.

[oldunclemark]

Colts just need a #2 WR or a slotWR and a TE. No biggie just draft them, there plenty to choose from. I would not go to FA for these, draft them and let them grow with Luck.

Dont we need 2 or 3 tight ends?

[UndecidedFrog]

Difference is magnitude, expectations, pressure, the game itself, money

No difference in the challenge. Luck likes challenges. Luck was unafraid to join a previously poor-performing team to make it better.

Luck joined the 1-11 Stanford team. He did make it better, much better. 4 years later, Stanford went 11-2.

I expect Luck to accept the challenge of joining the 2-14 Colts team when he is drafted.

I expect him to make it better, much better.

[Phil J]

Nah man, Not against Dr.Phil

my moustache is intimidating for you, i understand.

[Steve Waugh]

I think you're missing the point. He UF is saying that Luck was not afraid to step into a situation where a team was rebuilding, as mentioned earlier in this thread. You are comparing how he played in college. It's not a similar comparison. The comparison that was being made is that he had made a similar decision in the past, and may not be afraid to do the same now by choosing to play with the Colts.

I didnt say he would afraid.

My point is does he has patience enough to wait till Colts get better. Seems like they are way down right now. No one questions his talent.

[Happy2BeHere]

The Colts are still a class organization....Manning or no Manning...and many players want to play here. We are not like Miami or the bottom feeders of the league...rebuilding or not the Colts are going to be a great team and they will surely get back to winning ways WAY sooner than later....You can bet on it.