Jay Kirk Baseball Thread since 2017: The 2021 season, Dodgers Repeat?
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By 2006Coltsbestever · Posted
TY on a 75 yard TD = opening play - I still think he will be back. -
By TaylorTheStudMuffin · Posted
That won’t shock me. Last off season Hines mentioned he wanted more opportunities to catch deep balls. It just didn’t work well with Wentz. Ryan used Patterson as a WR last season. He will know how to use Hines. -
By 2006Coltsbestever · Posted
I wanted Leno as well. Great post. Wentz was above average at best, glad we moved on to Matty. -
Getting Herbert would have required getting up to #3 (Lions) or #4 (Giants) in the 2020 draft, which was a weird year already with COVID. And there were no draft day trades in the top 12. So moving up from #13 is probably more difficult than in a typical year. That trade would also mean no Buckner, and probably no Paye (assuming it would require the 2021 1st rounder). If it was even possible, we should have done it. I liked Herbert at the time, he was probably my QB1 in that draft. (Not a Tua fan at all, wouldn't have drafted him, period. It was Herbert or Burrow for me.) I really like Buckner, loved the trade, but I assumed Rivers would stick around for more than one season, and I assumed at the time that we'd be drafting a young QB by 2021. But I'd rather have a guy with Herbert's profile on a rookie contract. And I think I've been on record on this since before the Buckner trade. And since then, Herbert had a rookie year that made everyone say 'no way he can repeat that performance in Year 2.' And then he was even better in Year 2. I think he's the real deal. We paid Rivers $25m, Wentz $21m, and now Matt Ryan at $25m in 2022. The entire rookie deal for the #4 pick -- the latest we could have gotten Herbert -- is $32m, so we'd have saved more than $40m to spend at other positions. That's without getting rid of JB... In hindsight, not immediately going after a rookie QB wound up costing this team. Along the way, the path they took made sense, and is understandable. (And not everyone was sold on Herbert, which I thought was silly at the time, but it's true, and it's why he fell to #6 and went after Tua.) I'm not banging on Ballard or even pointing the finger, but if we had made the move for Herbert in 2020, we'd be better off right now, IMO. -
By AustinnKaine · Posted
\ Fisher was a big disappointment in my mind. I wanted us to sign Leno Jr. However, no one can sit here can say they love how Wentz made adjustments at the line for pass pro, or that they loved to watch him hit checkdowns on pressures. I know you love running to stats to try and support your position, but stats play for every team. The eye test says Wentz got himself into more trouble than he should of. #2sprainz
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