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42 minutes ago, Colt Overseas said:

 

Agreed, the sad thing is we have actually seen the Colts play like this before, against the Broncos and Pats last year and against the Lions this year. We are here against this week all agreeing that this is the vision for the offense we want to see going forward. 

 

But will it happen...

Very good question. Here is what I will say about this. If we see 7 step drops all game or even coming out of the gate, and luck takes a beating and we aren't hitting those long balls, I would hope that Irsay finds out who is the responsible party. Meaning, is Chud calling for this style of offense and Pagano approves of his game plan (rubber stamp) or is Chud telling Chuck I think we need to shorten up the routes and Pagano is telling Chad his vision for this game plan needs to be deep passing attack and try to run it if you can. At that point, you fire the person responsible for wanting the long ball attack. I'd hate to go in wanting Chuds head for coming up with ridiculous game plans when it's Chucks vision. If it's Chuds vision to run it and chuck signs off, you fire them both because they aren't getting it. 

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4 hours ago, Colt Overseas said:

 

Agreed, the sad thing is we have actually seen the Colts play like this before, against the Broncos and Pats last year and against the Lions this year. We are here against this week all agreeing that this is the vision for the offense we want to see going forward. 

 

But will it happen...

 

 Nay, it was just Dumb Luck!
 OT`s are a High Value position. A 3rd was VG value for Clark`s potential.
 Just a bunch of Ridiculous clowns here that won`t give EVERY draft pick a minimum of 2 training camps to show good potential.
 It was Nice having a LG today that can make good blocks outside of his 6' circle. VN job Harrison!!
 And Dumpster Fire Clark made a Bigly load of you look like ____!!  Clark can run block!!
  How many games has $3M dollar man Reitz, Haeg played at RT that well?? Few & None!

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5 hours ago, jshipp23 said:

Anderson, Parry, Goode, and Geathers??? Dorsett is talented as well, it took Wayne 3 years to start emerging..It's a confidence thing for Dorsett right now as well as not getting opportunities. ...He had a bad game lots of drops and now he is a bum....Give him another year...Imo Grigsons worst mistake was taking Werner when he could've grabbed Xavier Rhoades...Even Belichik misses plenty in the draft and free agency, difference is he is the greatest COACH of all time...At the time of Richardson trade we were desperate..At the time many were for it...

I gave him credit for Anderson. My point was you need to hit more than miss the first 2 days of the draft. You said that Grig's was impressive the last 2 years. I'm not sure I'd agree with that statement.

 

I'm not giving up on Dorsett he's not a 1st round talent. He doesn't get opportunities with Moncrief out that should tell you something. Can we stop with the comparisons to 87 please? 

 

Smith is out of the league.  TJ and Clark haven't done anything maybe they do. That's far from impressive.

 

Geathers is fine was coming along very good for a 4th before the injury. Parry is good for a 5th rounder not so much if he goes in the 3rd. We need an upgrade at NT. Good is a back up on a good team at this stage handing him the RG job was another poor decision

 

For every Geathers there is Holmes and  Morrison and every Parry you get a Hughes and Chapman

 

Grig's doesn't kill it In the draft or FA's. His job is to bring in talent we are devoid of playmakers especially on D that's on Grig's. 

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