Cleveland Extra Point

[indyagent17]

From what I saw Cleveland scored to make it 28-19 but chose to go for two point conversion.

 

An extra point would have made it an 8pt game but they went for it and failed and were down by 9.

 

They came back in the game but if they would have kicked the extra point they could have tied the game at 28

 

This is Cleveland in a nutshell, Stupidity rules

[ReMeDy]

I thought Terrelle Pryor said they were going to go undefeated!? What happened? Guess he should have waited to say that after the Patriots game.
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/terrelle-pryor-browns-undefeated-season/324942

[Jules]

The only good thing about Cleveland is Lebron James.

[Moose Of Woe]

1 hour ago, ReMeDy said:

I thought Terrelle Pryor said they were going to go undefeated!? What happened? Guess he should have waited to say that after the Patriots game.
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/terrelle-pryor-browns-undefeated-season/324942

That's rich. I don't think they'll win a single game. Maybe two tops?

[Yehoodi]

On 10/16/2016 at 8:20 PM, indyagent17 said:

From what I saw Cleveland scored to make it 28-19 but chose to go for two point conversion.

 

An extra point would have made it an 8pt game but they went for it and failed and were down by 9.

 

They came back in the game but if they would have kicked the extra point they could have tied the game at 28

 

This is Cleveland in a nutshell, Stupidity rules

 

To be fair to Cleveland we need to look at the end of the game. 

 

Cleveland was down by 15 points when they got the ball at the 6:43 mark, which is a two possession game requiring the Browns to score two TDs and score 8 points on one and 7 points on the other.   If they score 8 then 7 or 7 then 8 it does not really matter.  

 

Furthermore, they were only going to get two more possessions at the end of the game as they got ball at the 6:43 mark and scored their first TD at the 2:07 mark, recovered an onside kick and scored their second TD at the 0:27 mark.  Whether they failed a two point conversion at the 2:07 mark or the 0:27 mark makes no difference, nor does when they attempted it as they only had two possessions and needed a 8 or 7, the order is irrelevant.  

[indyagent17]

4 hours ago, Yehoodi said:

 

To be fair to Cleveland we need to look at the end of the game. 

 

Cleveland was down by 15 points when they got the ball at the 6:43 mark, which is a two possession game requiring the Browns to score two TDs and score 8 points on one and 7 points on the other.   If they score 8 then 7 or 7 then 8 it does not really matter.  

 

Furthermore, they were only going to get two more possessions at the end of the game as they got ball at the 6:43 mark and scored their first TD at the 2:07 mark, recovered an onside kick and scored their second TD at the 0:27 mark.  Whether they failed a two point conversion at the 2:07 mark or the 0:27 mark makes no difference, nor does when they attempted it as they only had two possessions and needed a 8 or 7, the order is irrelevant.  

Thats fine but they could have tied the game if they went for 1 

[Yehoodi]

13 hours ago, indyagent17 said:

Thats fine but they could have tied the game if they went for 1 

 

Yes, if one assumes that they would of converted a 2 point conversion on the second TD.   Given that they did not convert a 2 point conversion on the first TD, its kind of tough to then assume they would have converted on the second TD, and to use the same assumption to fault their play calling.   The likelihood of converting the 2 pt conversion is no different on either TD.  Both successful or both failed.       

[coltsva]

Thing is, if you're down by 15 and get a touchdown, you should go for 1 first and not the 2 until you need it. You never know what may happen to a take away the need to go for 2 on your next touchdown. 

 

Down 15

Touchdown!

Go for 1 and you're down by 8. Suppose you get a safety. Then you're down by 6. Touchdown, kick the extra point and you're up by 1 and never have to go for 2. 

 

Down 15

Touchdown!

Go for 2 and don't convert, down by 9. Safety, down by 7. Touchdown and kick, you're tied. Going for 2 first costs you the lead. 

 

Not a very common scenario, but it's certainly possible.

 

 

[Yehoodi]

18 hours ago, coltsva said:

Thing is, if you're down by 15 and get a touchdown, you should go for 1 first and not the 2 until you need it. You never know what may happen to a take away the need to go for 2 on your next touchdown. 

 

Down 15

Touchdown!

Go for 1 and you're down by 8. Suppose you get a safety. Then you're down by 6. Touchdown, kick the extra point and you're up by 1 and never have to go for 2. 

 

Down 15

Touchdown!

Go for 2 and don't convert, down by 9. Safety, down by 7. Touchdown and kick, you're tied. Going for 2 first costs you the lead. 

 

Not a very common scenario, but it's certainly possible.

 

 

 

I think most of us agree that 2 pt conversion earlier in the game can be questioned.  The timing in this game makes it not matter which possession you go for two as there are only two possession left in the game. 

 

Cleveland was down by 15 with 6:43 or so on the clock with the ball and scored the first TD around 2:05 on the clock, got a onside kick and scored their second TD with 0;27 on the clock, was not able to get another onside kick and Tenn took a knee to end the game. 

 

So yes i agree with you that sometimes there are other options when there are a handful of possessions either side remaining, but here all we had was two possessions by Cleveland and the game was over.  There was no time for Tenn to have the ball and have a safety or a pick 6, fumble, etc. 

[coltsva]

5 hours ago, Yehoodi said:

 

I think most of us agree that 2 pt conversion earlier in the game can be questioned.  The timing in this game makes it not matter which possession you go for two as there are only two possession left in the game. 

 

Cleveland was down by 15 with 6:43 or so on the clock with the ball and scored the first TD around 2:05 on the clock, got a onside kick and scored their second TD with 0;27 on the clock, was not able to get another onside kick and Tenn took a knee to end the game. 

 

So yes i agree with you that sometimes there are other options when there are a handful of possessions either side remaining, but here all we had was two possessions by Cleveland and the game was over.  There was no time for Tenn to have the ball and have a safety or a pick 6, fumble, etc. 

Fair point. In general, going for 2 should be done last, but agree that the lack of time left in this specific game made the order pretty much irrelevant. Could also be Browns figured the D was reeling and going for 2 right away was their best option. 

[shakedownstreet]

burp! +2points!

 

[Yehoodi]

14 hours ago, coltsva said:

Fair point. In general, going for 2 should be done last, but agree that the lack of time left in this specific game made the order pretty much irrelevant. Could also be Browns figured the D was reeling and going for 2 right away was their best option. 

 

Yes, agreed.