Combine Final Day: DBs

[krunk]

Didn't see one created so I thought I'd post one.

 

I see my boy Sean Davis ran that 4.47!  Can play safety and cornerback. Tough as nails

 

Vernon Hargreaves only ran a 4.52. I thought he was faster than that.

 

Also I see Deiondre Hall is a lot slower than expected with a 4.69

 

Doesn't appear that Mackenzie Alexander participated for whatever the reason.

 

 

Eli Apple with the 4.42

 

Artie Burns from Miami with a Pedestrian 4.95!  Correction I suppose they had a typo up there as they have now corrected his time to 4.47

[krunk]

William Jackson III with the 4.39.  He reminds me a lot of Antonio Chromartie.

[BlueShoe]

My early sleeper is Juston Burris. I believe he could be a late round GEM. Had my eye on him for a while, and would very much like to see him in the blue and white. 

 

It will be interesting how far Rashard Robinson falls due to character issues. Hard to take a kid early, after he sat out 2015 with off the field issues. His talent is undeniable. I think a team will take him on day 2 and have about a 50/50 chance of him messing up again. 

[Defjamz26]

William Jackson putting on a show with those times.

 

Also anyone know anything about the Houston-Carson kid? His size and 40 time have me intrigued.

[BlueShoe]

1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

William Jackson putting on a show with those times.

 

Also anyone know anything about the Houston-Carson kid? His size and 40 time have me intrigued.

 

PFF loves him. Ranks him 13th best player in the draft. 

[krunk]

I wouldn't mind picking up WIlliam Jackson III

[Defjamz26]

@BlueShoe They have Jackson rated that highly?

[krunk]

I see Hargreaves upped his time to a 4.43 now

[krunk]

Sean Davis up to a 4.41 now. Couple seconds off from a 4.3.

I just think he'd make a nice dual use player for us. Mainly at safety though.

[BlueShoe]

7 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

@BlueShoe They have Jackson rated that highly?

 

Yeah. The PFF numbers really pop on some players. Just like Henry Anderson last year. He was a highly ranked PFF player. 

 

One thing to note is that Grigson seems to draft and sign free agents that PFF ranks highly. I am not saying there is a correlation, but it is starting to seem that way. It might turn out to be a Grigson tell. 

[krunk]

Jonathan Jones from Auburn with a 4.28

[Defjamz26]

Deon Bush doesn't look bad

[BlueShoe]

I believe PFF got that one right. 

 

William Jackson III is a PLAYER!!

 

He is moving up everyone's draft boards today.

[Defjamz26]

I'm writing down in my notebook to go and watch Houston-Carson and William Jackson. Jackson looks smooth in the drills.

[BlueShoe]

7 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

I'm writing down in my notebook to go and watch Houston-Carson and William Jackson. Jackson looks smooth in the drills.

 

Amazing. These kids were playing at William and Mary and Houston.

 

Love how the NFL draft works.

[BProland85]

47 minutes ago, krunk said:

I wouldn't mind picking up WIlliam Jackson III

 

In the 2nd though. 18 is too high for him.

[Defjamz26]

Hargreaves is too smooth. It's easy for him. He was born to play CB.

 

From what I've seen, I would move Jackson and Burns are top 5 CBs in this class.

 

Also Deion and Mayock were talking about Houston-Carson for a few minutes and had great things to say about him. 

[Track Guy]

1 hour ago, Defjamz26 said:

William Jackson putting on a show with those times.

 

Also anyone know anything about the Houston-Carson kid? His size and 40 time have me intrigued.

 

Will Jackson is underrated. One of the best corners in the draft imo.

 

Will Redmond on the other hand, I imagine his stock must've taken a hit... Because Walterfootball has him listed as having measured only 5' 1 3/4" on his site lol

[SDakColts]

I think that Eli Apple looks good today, and ran an official 4.40. He could be a viable option at 18 as he excels in press coverage.

[BlueShoe]

4 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Hargreaves is too smooth. It's easy for him. He was born to play CB.

 

From what I've seen, I would move Jackson and Burns are top 5 CBs in this class.

 

Also Deion and Mayock were talking about Houston-Carson for a few minutes and had great things to say about him. 

 

Don't forget, there is another group coming. 

 

Cyrus Jones and Jonathan Jones have also impressed me. 

 

Don't sleep on Eli Apple either; 6'1", 200, and ran a 4.4. He also looked good in drills. 

 

The player who has improved his stock the most today (thus far) is William Jackson III. That kid is a baller. 

 

 

[SDakColts]

8 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Hargreaves is too smooth. It's easy for him. He was born to play CB.

 

From what I've seen, I would move Jackson and Burns are top 5 CBs in this class.

 

Also Deion and Mayock were talking about Houston-Carson for a few minutes and had great things to say about him. 

I definitely suggest watching tape on Houston-Carson he is a baller. He has decent ball skills, but he is a very willing run defender. He would be a viable option in the 4th IMO.

[SDakColts]

Artie Burns I think really hurt himself today. I wasn't too impressed with him before the combine, but he looks really stiff, and needs a lot of work on his footwork.

 

K.J. Dillon also looked good today as a safety.

[Defjamz26]

Yeah Cyrus Jones was fluid. He'll make a living as a top slot CB in this league. And this is a deep DB class and it's just group 1. The Redskins should be pleased lol.

[BlueShoe]

3 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Yeah Cyrus Jones was fluid. He'll make a living as a top slot CB in this league. And this is a deep DB class and it's just group 1. The Redskins should be pleased lol.

 

I would not mind drafting two secondary players in this draft; a corner and a safety. There is enough secondary talent in this draft so I could see it happening. 

[BlueShoe]

Is something up with the clock? The first few from the second group are running some slow 40's. 

[Defjamz26]

Second group of DBs are really slow.

[SDakColts]

With how this second group is running the first group is going to be jumping up draft boards.

[krunk]

1 hour ago, BProland85 said:

 

In the 2nd though. 18 is too high for him.

 

I wasn't taking about 18 either.

[BlueShoe]

In my mind, William Jackson III is certainly worthy of our second round pick.

 

At #48, he would likely be the best player on the board. 

 

The way he shined today, he might not make it to us though. 

[krunk]

Will Jackson is a baller.  I felt that about him before the combine.

I like Mackenzie, but I like Will III better! 

[SDakColts]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

Will Jackson is a baller.  I felt that about him before the combine

Agreed. Felt the same way about him as well before the combine.

[SDakColts]

Darian Thompson is a lot slower than I expected.

[Defjamz26]

7 minutes ago, SDakColts said:

Darian Thompson is a lot slower than I expected.

Yeah that was really disappointing for a FS. I have a feeling he's going to fall on draft day because Zerlein said that he also has some really bad film. He might fall as far as Derron Smith did, and we all thought he was a 2nd-3rd round pick.

[BlueShoe]

Brandon Williams.

 

Deion Sanders was mocking his pre-forty routine. Williams was doing some kind of balancing act, and giving shot outs to everybody, then a shot out to Jesus. Deion screamed, "JUST RUN!"

 

Then after Williams ran an unofficial 4.38, Deion said, that's a good routine. LOL

 

Just goes to show all of us; only the results matter. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Until someone runs a 4.2 in the 40 like Deion did, I don't want to hear any more hype  (sarcasm)

[SDakColts]

15 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Yeah that was really disappointing for a FS. I have a feeling he's going to fall on draft day because Zerlein said that he also has some really bad film. He might fall as far as Derron Smith did, and we all thought he was a 2nd-3rd round pick.

Believe it or not a lot of analysts have him compared to Derron Smith. All the tape I have seen as been pretty good, but I have only seen two games. Zerlein usually knows his stuff, so I would imagine it is possible he could have bad tape. I believe he is going to slide too after his combine performance. Players like K.J. Dillon and Houston-Carson could push him down the big board.

[SDakColts]

One of my under the radar prospects is having a solid day. Justin Simmons is a very underrated player in this years draft. He has very good size, and is always around the ball.

[krunk]

William Jackson III's combine draws rave reviews

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000640121/article/william-jackson-iiis-combine-draws-rave-reviews

 

Best case, Jackson has moved into first-round consideration.

"Jackson might have pushed himself into the bottom of the first round with his workout today," NFL Media analyst Daniel Jeremiah said.

[OffensivelyPC]

Can anyone tell me how DJ White looks?

[SDakColts]

1 minute ago, Bizarro Superman said:

Can anyone tell me how DJ White looks?

He ran 4.49 officially, was solid in the bench press and killed the broad jump. His hips seemed stiff while transitioning in the positional field drills, and he showed slightly above average ball skills. I thought he had a solid combine. I don't think he jumped up draft boards significantly, but he didn't hurt himself either. I believe he is a solid 4th rounder, but he may sneak into the bottom on the 3rd.