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10 hours ago, w87r said:

Definitely are. That report just came after your post I presume.

 

Yes it did as I checked closely before i posted. Then when you replied that he signed with Carolina , I checked and it was like the second post from the top.

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32 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

Oh man, where are all the forum members that were beside themselves when the Colts let him go? :hide:

Forum members may of been upset when he was released even though he was bad, but it was Ballard who drafted him with a 4th round pick even though he was bad and he only lasted a year here. 

 

So you tell me which is worse. The fans who want a QB on their favorite team to get a chance when the starting QB is hurt, or the GM that releases said QB because he's so horrible he can't make it on the team more than a year after being drafted in the 4th round.

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1 hour ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Forum members may of been upset when he was released even though he was bad, but it was Ballard who drafted him with a 4th round pick even though he was bad and he only lasted a year here. 

 

So you tell me which is worse. The fans who want a QB on their favorite team to get a chance when the starting QB is hurt, or the GM that releases said QB because he's so horrible he can't make it on the team more than a year after being drafted in the 4th round.

It was a bad pick, which proves my point in our earlier discussions. He was taken in the 4th round, a Ballard gamble that failed. Many GM's have really screwed up, look at these #1 and #2 picks in the draft that didn't work out and some flat out stunk:

 

Ryan Leaf - Chargers (taken #2 in 1998)

Tim Couch - Browns (taken #1 in 1999)

JaMarcus Russell .- Raiders (taken #1 in 2007)

Jameis Winston - Bucs (taken #1 in 2015)

Marcus Mariota - Titans (taken #2 in 2015)

Jared Goff - Rams (taken #1 in 2016)

Carson Wentz - Eagles (taken #2 in 2016)

Mitch Trubisky - Bears (taken #2 in 2017)

Baker Mayfield - Browns (taken #1 in 2018)

*Sam Darnold - was taken 3rd by the Jets in 2018 lmao 

 

-This is why the drafting a so-called franchise QB is risky, I just gave you 10 QB's that pretty much either stunk, or are average and will never win a SB The Simpsons GIF by KiwiGo (KGO)

 

No thanks, give me Matt Ryan all day over these dudes. In 2020, Cincy got lucky and hit the lottery with Joe Burrow like we did with Luck. It happens once every 10 years lmao . By the way Joe Burrow won't last unless his O.Line gets much better. Burrow has been hit and sacked a ton and he has been injured as well. There have been a few hits outside of top 3 but a GM has to get real lucky to land that like a Mahomes at #10 or Allen #7. - That is just pure luck because hardly nobody thought Mahomes would be good - hence taken 10th. Allen is very good but not great yet, win me something Allen - same for Herbert who went 6th.

 

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10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

It was a bad pick, which proves my point in our earlier discussions. He was taken in the 4th round, a Ballard gamble that failed. Many GM's have really screwed up, look at these #1 and #2 picks in the draft that didn't work out and some flat out stunk:

 

Ryan Leaf - Chargers (taken #2 in 1998)

Tim Couch - Browns (taken #1 in 1999)

JaMarcus Russell .- Raiders (taken #1 in 2007)

Jameis Winston - Bucs (taken #1 in 2015)

Marcus Mariota - Titans (taken #2 in 2015)

Jared Goff - Rams (taken #1 in 2016)

Carson Wentz - Eagles (taken #2 in 2016)

Mitch Trubisky - Bears (taken #2 in 2017)

Baker Mayfield - Browns (taken #1 in 2018)

*Sam Darnold - was taken 3rd by the Jets in 2018 lmao 

 

-This is why the drafting a so-called franchise QB is risky, I just gave you 10 QB's that pretty much either stunk, or are average and will never win a SB The Simpsons GIF by KiwiGo (KGO)

 

No thanks, give me Matt Ryan all day over these dudes. In 2020, Cincy got lucky and hit the lottery with Joe Burrow like we did with Luck. It happens once every 10 years lmao . By the way Joe Burrow won't last unless his O.Line gets much better. Burrow has been hit and sacked a ton and he has been injured as well. There have been a few hits outside of top 3 but a GM has to get real lucky to land that like a Mahomes at #10 or Allen #7. - That is just pure luck because hardly nobody thought Mahomes would be good - hence taken 10th. Allen is very good but not great yet, win me something Allen - same for Herbert who went 6th.

 

Yep. That's why the GM has to know his stuff when picking a QB. Usually there's one or two in every draft that turn out ok. That's why in a different thread I gave you the list of QBs Ballard could of taken in 2020-2022 and how they were currently doing. There are always options. For us, it's hindsight when we say QB X or Y is working out for said team or doing terrible, I hold the GMs knowledge to a higher standard where he should figure these things out though.

 

Obviously this doesn't have much to do with Eason as a 4th round pick is a gamble for even the most knowledgeable GM, however, it does have to do with the fact that there's always a QB or two that's solid in the first few rounds, and they don't have to be a top ten pick.

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22 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

It was a bad pick, which proves my point in our earlier discussions. He was taken in the 4th round, a Ballard gamble that failed. Many GM's have really screwed up, look at these #1 and #2 picks in the draft that didn't work out and some flat out stunk:

 

Ryan Leaf - Chargers (taken #2 in 1998)

Tim Couch - Browns (taken #1 in 1999)

JaMarcus Russell .- Raiders (taken #1 in 2007)

Jameis Winston - Bucs (taken #1 in 2015)

Marcus Mariota - Titans (taken #2 in 2015)

Jared Goff - Rams (taken #1 in 2016)

Carson Wentz - Eagles (taken #2 in 2016)

Mitch Trubisky - Bears (taken #2 in 2017)

Baker Mayfield - Browns (taken #1 in 2018)

*Sam Darnold - was taken 3rd by the Jets in 2018 lmao 

 

-This is why the drafting a so-called franchise QB is risky, I just gave you 10 QB's that pretty much either stunk, or are average and will never win a SB The Simpsons GIF by KiwiGo (KGO)

 

No thanks, give me Matt Ryan all day over these dudes. In 2020, Cincy got lucky and hit the lottery with Joe Burrow like we did with Luck. It happens once every 10 years lmao . By the way Joe Burrow won't last unless his O.Line gets much better. Burrow has been hit and sacked a ton and he has been injured as well. There have been a few hits outside of top 3 but a GM has to get real lucky to land that like a Mahomes at #10 or Allen #7. - That is just pure luck because hardly nobody thought Mahomes would be good - hence taken 10th. Allen is very good but not great yet, win me something Allen - same for Herbert who went 6th.

 

 

  Marino was very good but win me something. Elway was very good for 16 years until he got a great running game, defense, the coaching, ...

 Allen IS GREAT

 Herbert is AWESOME

  I would believe Mahommes was on most everyones 1st rd draft board.

 Getting to sit for a year surrounded by great mentors with a great offense and having one of the best TE's ever. 

 Our Colts are very promising!!

   Knowing there are many "Busts" in every round tells me there are always going to be draft candidates that fool the system.

 Eason was evaluated and earned his draft slot based on a projection of what might be. It is safe to say that there is something off between the Ears with him. 

 IMO there was with Luck. He couldn't lead a receiver at the numbers in the short game worth a ____! But he sure made a name for TY waiting for him to get open. Umph thud! Nice hit!

  

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3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yep. That's why the GM has to know his stuff when picking a QB. Usually there's one or two in every draft that turn out ok. That's why in a different thread I gave you the list of QBs Ballard could of taken in 2020-2022 and how they were currently doing. There are always options. For us, it's hindsight when we say QB X or Y is working out for said team or doing terrible, I hold the GMs knowledge to a higher standard where he should figure these things out though.

 

Obviously this doesn't have much to do with Eason as a 4th round pick is a gamble for even the most knowledgeable GM, however, it does have to do with the fact that there's always a QB or two that's solid in the first few rounds, and they don't have to be a top ten pick.

I am for drafting a QB but last year just wasn't it with Matty Ice here. Obviously we need a guy that can give us 10 years comfortably, that will be Ballard's calling card, do we eventually get a Tua or Mahomes lmao , lets face it QB's like Tua and Mac Jones aren't winning anything either - just truth and they are above average like Wentz, Tannehill and Hurts is. None of those guys are winning a SB unless they call Ray Lewis and Ed Reed up.

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1 minute ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

  Marino was very good but win me something. Elway was very good for 16 years until he got a great running game, defense, the coaching, ...

 Allen IS GREAT

 Herbert is AWESOME

  I would believe Mahommes was on most everyones 1st rd draft board.

 Getting to sit for a year surrounded by great mentors with a great offense and having one of the best TE's ever. 

 Our Colts are very promising!!

I have the Bills winning the SB and have money on it, Allen is my guy at QB. I have us playing them for all the marbles in the AFC and have money on that. I just said win me something because as of now, Allen hasn't been to the SB. Marino is a top 10 QB of all-time and went to a SB, Elway made 3 SB's without a running game.

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5 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am for drafting a QB but last year just wasn't it with Matty Ice here. Obviously we need a guy that can give us 10 years comfortably, that will be Ballard's calling card, do we eventually get a Tua or Mahomes lmao , lets face it QB's like Tua and Mac Jones aren't winning anything either - just truth and they are above average like Wentz, Tannehill and Hurts is. None of those guys are winning a SB unless they call Ray Lewis and Ed Reed up.

I'll say this. We'll probably never have a top ten draft pick again as long as Ballard is the GM. The team besides the QB is too good. That means, in theory, we'll never have a chance at a truly elite QB in a draft without trading up. So what do you do? Trade up and sacrifice years of draft picks, or get creative and take someone to develop for a couple years behind a veteran like Matt Ryan? That's why I wanted Willis or Ridder so bad. They were undervalued in this draft, and they fit in with the timeline that Matt Ryan will retire when they will be ready to start in the NFL. Much rather pay a 3rd round pick than multiple 1sts+ for a QB in the 5-10 range two years from now. 

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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I'll say this. We'll probably never have a top ten draft pick again as long as Ballard is the GM. The team besides the QB is too good. That means, in theory, we'll never have a chance at a truly elite QB in a draft without trading up. So what do you do? Trade up and sacrifice years of draft picks, or get creative and take someone to develop for a couple years behind a veteran like Matt Ryan? That's why I wanted Willis or Ridder so bad. They were undervalued in this draft, and they fit in with the timeline that Matt Ryan will retire when they will be ready to start in the NFL. Much rather pay a 3rd round pick than multiple 1sts+ for a QB in the 5-10 range two years from now. 

I have a strange feeling that we take a QB in the 1st round in 2023 and take that gamble because of Matt's age. I would be ok with that.

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have a strange feeling that we take a QB in the 1st round in 2023 and take that gamble because of Matt's age. I would be ok with that.

Maybe. I would be ok with that. As of now, we are ok at QB because of Foles and Sam. Keeping Sam made me happy as we have a young QB on the roster with potential. I just hope Ballard has a future plan in mind. Hopefully he has an idea of the QBs currently in college and is doing his homework on them.

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4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Maybe. I would be ok with that. As of now, we are ok at QB because of Foles and Sam. Keeping Sam made me happy as we have a young QB on the roster with potential. I just hope Ballard has a future plan in mind. Hopefully he has an idea of the QBs currently in college and is doing his homework on them.

Yeah Sam isn't too bad, I was so happy he made the 53. He deserved it. He, IMO will probably end up being a great back-up for someone, hopefully us. A guy that can win you 1 or 2 games in a pinch like Jacoby. In order for us to get a franchise QB for a decade, Ballard has to get lucky and just nail it because we will be picking in the 20's.

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