This level of cold hurts the game

[-JJ-]

14 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

What difference does it make that the season wasn't this long back when the sport was invented?

 

The NFL has been around for what,  75 years?     Longer?

 

I started following football in the mid-60's and while the regular season ended in mid/late December, the playoffs went right through January with the Super Bowl typically in Mid and then Late January.

 

There were frozen playoff games in places like Green Bay,  Minnesota,  Chicago,  Cincinnati,  Cleveland, Buffalo,  you name it.

 

This has been going on for 50 years.....      who cares what football was like before then?

 

I appreciate that the quality of football sucks in terrible weather.    And it was worse back in the 60's, 70's and 80's because the ability to keep players warm was much less understood,  so players really suffered back in the day.      It was much worse back then than it is now because the technology exists to keep players warmer for longer period of time.     Gloves,  thermal clothing,  turtle neck sweaters,  caps for heads....   heated benches when they come to the sidelines and heavy/long coats to shield players from the elements.

 

Players have it much better today than they did 30-60 years ago.....

 

Just agree with me.....

 

All good points. I remember that frigid Cincinnati playoff game. It was a good one. That's when Collings worth was playing. Forget who won tho. 

[BloodyChamp]

On 12/22/2016 at 2:15 PM, shakedownstreet said:

This level of thread hurts the forum

 

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[cmgww]

Here's a unique comparison.....

The Indianapolis 500 is run every Memorial Day weekend. It is run whether it's 100 degrees out or 55. There is a minimum safe temperature for the safety of the race, around 50 degrees ambient temp...so the tires will have grip. On race day, 300,000 fans pack the place. If it's hot, lots end up at the first aid stations with heat related issues. But they still come. The racing is also affected by temperature. Hotter means less grip on the track and affects race strategy. Same goes for cooler days. In 1992 it was barely 50 degrees and the race was marred with lots of crashes bc of the cold (tires couldn't heat up to get grip) They won't run in the rain, but as soon as it dries the cars are back out there. And on road courses they do run in the rain. 

 

My point is this. The 500 has been run for over 100 years. They don't have a "window" of acceptable weather except for the minimum temperature for the drivers' safety. It can be hot as Hades and they'll run. The fans know it too. Lots of people ignore the warnings and end up in the hospital  (drinking and heat don't mix). But the show goes on. Only a downpour will stop it....and that's bc racing at 230 mph is a bit different than football.

 

Cold is part of football. Always has been, always will be. 

[NewColtsFan]

8 hours ago, -JJ- said:

All good points. I remember that frigid Cincinnati playoff game. It was a good one. That's when Collings worth was playing. Forget who won tho. 

 

Cincy won.....    but many thought San Diego,  the team that lost,  was the better team.     They just couldn't play in such frigid weather....

 

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

6 hours ago, BloodyChamp said:

 

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[-JJ-]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Cincy won.....    but many thought San Diego,  the team that lost,  was the better team.     They just couldn't play in such frigid weather....

 

Ah thanks. That does ring a bell the loser was the better team.

[NewColtsFan]

7 hours ago, -JJ- said:

Ah thanks. That does ring a bell the loser was the better team.

 

A good number of NFL people called that Chargers offense of that year the greatest offense in the history of the league.

 

QB - Dan Fouts

WR - John Jefferson

WR - Charlie Joiner

TE -  Kellen Winslow

RB -  Chuck Muncie

RB2 -  either James Brooks, or Lionel Little Train James.

 

And they had a great offensive line as well.

 

They just had a very poor defense.   

 

This was the original "Air Coryell"....   and they were a sight to behold!

 

[Jules]

It hurts my skin. I go through gallons of lotions and creams it seems this time of year.

[-JJ-]

4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

A good number of NFL people called that Chargers offense of that year the greatest offense in the history of the league.

 

QB - Dan Fouts

WR - John Jefferson

WR - Charlie Joiner

TE -  Kellen Winslow

RB -  Chuck Muncie

RB2 -  either James Brooks, or Lionel Little Train James.

 

And they had a great offensive line as well.

 

They just had a very poor defense.   

 

This was the original "Air Coryell"....   and they were a sight to behold!

 

yes that was a super team that should have gone all the way. They just had bad luck I didn't focus on their defense so they were bad eh.. I remember that game in Miami they lost (playoff game I think) and I was rooting for them like crazy.

 

They've been trying to get back there ever since.

[NewColtsFan]

9 minutes ago, -JJ- said:

yes that was a super team that should have gone all the way. They just had bad luck I didn't focus on their defense so they were bad eh.. I remember that game in Miami they lost (playoff game I think) and I was rooting for them like crazy.

 

They've been trying to get back there ever since.

 

Actually,  if my memory is still working,  San Diego won that game.     They won it on a FG in overtime.

 

Not sure if that took them to the game in Cincinnati where they ultimately lost,  or if in another year,  they went back home and played the Raiders where their defense let them down again and Oakland won and went on to a Super Bowl.       

 

Forgive me,  too late to looking things up.     Nearly 3am here in So. Cal.     I have to crawl into bed and collapse.

 

But that Chargers -- Dolphins playoff game decided in overtime is one of the greatest games in NFL history!

 

 

[Buddy Lee]

On 12/25/2016 at 1:49 PM, NewColtsFan said:

 

Cincy won.....    but many thought San Diego,  the team that lost,  was the better team.     They just couldn't play in such frigid weather....

 

Cincy had defeated the Chargers 40-17 earlier in the same season. It was even a San Diego home game in good weather. So much for the "many" who thought that the Chargers were the better team and only lost because of the cold weather. Perhaps the "many" were delusional. Was Skip Bayless one of the "many"? ;-)

 

BTW, Kellen Winslow still suffers from an aching toe due to frostbite from that game. Ken Anderson suffered a frostbitten ear and now is extremely cold sensitive/intolerant. I was at the game and spent much of the time in the concession area jogging in place to try and get my numb feet warmed up. That was despite placing a pile of newspapers between my insulated boots and the cold concrete as recommended by the newspaper.

[NewColtsFan]

4 hours ago, Buddy Lee said:

Cincy had defeated the Chargers 40-17 earlier in the same season. It was even a San Diego home game in good weather. So much for the "many" who thought that the Chargers were the better team and only lost because of the cold weather. Perhaps the "many" were delusional. Was Skip Bayless one of the "many"? ;-)

 

BTW, Kellen Winslow still suffers from an aching toe due to frostbite from that game. Ken Anderson suffered a frostbitten ear and now is extremely cold sensitive/intolerant. I was at the game and spent much of the time in the concession area jogging in place to try and get my numb feet warmed up. That was despite placing a pile of newspapers between my insulated boots and the cold concrete as recommended by the newspaper.

 

 

GREAT stories!!        Thanks for sharing them!!

 

Pretty wonderful stuff!      Those are the kind of stories you can tell your kids and your grand kids....