Broncos writer wants trade for DE Babin, says like Indy we are not giving Peyton a championship defense & better for a winter playoff drive & SB try

[bayone]

 

 

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here in Denver the Broncos' defense is all anyone's talking about.

 

The game against the Cowboys did perhaps illustrate why Manning has just one Super Bowl ring. He is terrific. Incredible.

 

But the teams he has led have had deficiencies that were exposed in the postseason.

 

  This last game brought to mind  the old saying:

 

"Offense wins games, but defense wins championships." 

 

http://www.denverpost.com/broncosmailbag/ci_24265087/broncos-mailbag-peyton-manning-exhibits-mastery-all-things

 

article   about author wanting a trade for Jags DE Babin

 

The Broncos might well win the Super Bowl in February.

But they ain't winning it this way.

Denver will need to win at least three straight games in the dead of winter to be NFL champion. The dead of winter isn't pretty. It's cold. And hard. The playoffs can be brutal tests of will.

 

The Broncos need defensive help. They need it now. And they need more than the return of suspended linebacker Von Miller.

 

 No 37-year-old — heck, no 27-year-old quarterback — has ever played more remarkably than Manning during the 5-0 start to this Broncos season. But, in the dead of winter, you can't drive 95 mph and expect to stay on the slippery road to the Super Bowl.

 

Maybe, just maybe, the reason Manning doesn't own a better record in the postseason is his defenses in Indianapolis and Denver haven't been anywhere near championship quality. The Ravens did need 38 points to beat the Broncos in the playoffs.

 

"We'll have a serious talk with the leaders of the defense," Denver defensive lineman Terrance Knighton vowed in the minutes after winning a shootout in Dallas. "We understand you can't always count on the offense to bail us out. We've got to put a stop to it before teams expose us."

 

 If Super Bowl or bust really is the Broncos' mantra, Elway will somehow find a way to get defensive help from somewhere.

 

http://www.denverpost.com/kiszla/ci_24269690/kiszla-broncos-ought-trade-jaguars-de-jason-babin

 

*** He is right , Winter will be brutal, cant expect Peyton to keep pilling on points forever against the  best of teams in inclement weather where freezing cold , rain, or snow may all play a part Defense doesnt rank well save Vs Run

[bayone]

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all the stats follow the above  / note page brings up defense, can click on offensive rankings as well if want and sort either via clicking on any column heading  to see rank in that category

 

http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/defensive-stats

[Valpo2004]

When Von Miller get's back, unfortunutely against Indy, it will improve things quite a bit.  

 

So will the return of Champ Bailey.

 

With Champ Bailey and Von Miller out there, I don't think Dallas would have racked up that many points.  Especially Von Miller, he would have pressured Romo into throwing more picks.  

[JerodMayo51]

When Von Miller get's back, unfortunutely against Indy, it will improve things quite a bit.  

 

So will the return of Champ Bailey.

 

With Champ Bailey and Von Miller out there, I don't think Dallas would have racked up that many points.  Especially Von Miller, he would have pressured Romo into throwing more picks.  

 

 

Champ Bailey will give them some nice veteran leadership in the secondary as a safety, but hes too old to come in and make a major impact.

 

Von Miller will definitely give them a huge boost, especially since most teams are always trying to play catchup and he can just pin the offensive lines ears back every single play.  Thats what made Freeney and Mathis so formidable in Indy, because the offense was always scoring and forcing teams to air it out to catch up/keep up and it allowed pass rushing specialists like Freeney and Mathis to relentlessly attack the QB.  

 

Looking forward to the Denver game, but New Orleans will be a nice test before we get there!

[JerodMayo51]

The article is kind of silly though, you cant put together an air show like they have out in Denver and also field a Championship quality defense on top of it.  Denver D has always been pretty solid, but with teams playing from behind so much, their numbers are going to be skewed because teams have to air it out a lot.

 

Its also why ranking defenses based on yardage is ridiculous.  Points per game, redzone defense, 3rd down conversions are all stats that actually matter to a defense.. who cares how many yards they give up.. how many POINTS did they give up?

[bayone]

When Von Miller get's back, unfortunutely against Indy, it will improve things quite a bit.  

 

So will the return of Champ Bailey.

 

With Champ Bailey and Von Miller out there, I don't think Dallas would have racked up that many points.  Especially Von Miller, he would have pressured Romo into throwing more picks.  

 

 

Champ Bailey will give them some nice veteran leadership in the secondary as a safety, but hes too old to come in and make a major impact.

 

Von Miller will definitely give them a huge boost, especially since most teams are always trying to play catchup and he can just pin the offensive lines ears back every single play.  Thats what made Freeney and Mathis so formidable in Indy, because the offense was always scoring and forcing teams to air it out to catch up/keep up and it allowed pass rushing specialists like Freeney and Mathis to relentlessly attack the QB.  

 

Looking forward to the Denver game, but New Orleans will be a nice test before we get there!

 

 

The article is kind of silly though, you cant put together an air show like they have out in Denver and also field a Championship quality defense on top of it.  Denver D has always been pretty solid, but with teams playing from behind so much, their numbers are going to be skewed because teams have to air it out a lot.

 

Its also why ranking defenses based on yardage is ridiculous.  Points per game, redzone defense, 3rd down conversions are all stats that actually matter to a defense.. who cares how many yards they give up.. how many POINTS did they give up?

 

Jerod - the defensive stats  says in points per game Denver # 25, doesnt have other 2 u noted,

 

saints will be a test, i think its there second road game in a row as i think playing in NE but not sure & leaving so not looking up now

 

Jerod & Valpro 

 

Miller of course will help but will be Rusty I imagine for 1st game so at least us Colts get him then & not later & we can air it out or play ball control & Luck can move and throw, our TE but esp wayne and TY will mean they have to play entire field and Luck can exploit the middle i am sure

 

Think 1 of original  op articles was trying to make point u need someone like Doomervile opposite Miller for true impact like last year and freney & mathis  , thats why said to trade for babin

 

a good rush will help the DBs 

 

Bailey said he will have lisfranc pain all year, i no longer have the links and also he apparently could of started last week but they didnt want him to as game  was on turf and thats when he hurts the most and also was when he got hurt  , I also previously posted article link not looking for now , sorry 

 

Now indy has turf unless different turf has different effects, i have no idea on that

 

have a good day guys, must leave now

[jameszeigler834]

The broncos D just isn't that good and von miller is their best player  and champ bailey is old and overrated so I think they would have scored 48 points no matter what and I think they left another TD out their on the field.

[oldunclemark]

everybody keeps talking about weather...

Check the schedule...

Denver plays at NE in November and KC in December (cold)

Then they play at Houston (warm) in December and at Oakland in December (warm)

..all other games are at home...

It was a fluke that is was that 7 degrees in Denver last janaury when the Broncos lost.

Its was 50 degrees the previous Sunday and 50 degrees the next Sunday......our Denver friends told me last year..

the average daily temp in Denver in January is 40 degrees..

Unless there's a blizzard, I don't think the weather is going to shut down Peyton Manning

[Valpo2004]

Champ Bailey will give them some nice veteran leadership in the secondary as a safety, but hes too old to come in and make a major impact.

 

Von Miller will definitely give them a huge boost, especially since most teams are always trying to play catchup and he can just pin the offensive lines ears back every single play.  Thats what made Freeney and Mathis so formidable in Indy, because the offense was always scoring and forcing teams to air it out to catch up/keep up and it allowed pass rushing specialists like Freeney and Mathis to relentlessly attack the QB.  

 

Looking forward to the Denver game, but New Orleans will be a nice test before we get there!

 

Last year Bailey was their CB#1 was he not?  He's still playing at a high level.  

[bayone]

Last year Bailey was their CB#1 was he not?  He's still playing at a high level.  

 

Bailey if can play at last years level or near it would be great

 

I dont like that he had said he will play in pain all year at lis frac joint and esp on turf, no longer have article link

 

BTW today woodward and ayers couldnt practice, Harris only stretched but bailey for first time had a full practice , at least thats what 1 article said, no official report yet