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#41 betheafan41

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:56 PM

The talent level between Mathieu and Jenkins isn't even close, that's the difference. Jenkins was a top ten pick if not for off the field issues.

 

 

i dont think the OP mentioned anything about using a first rounder on mathieu. as i had posted on another thread, he would be worth a shot with a 4th rd to third day pick. no one can seem to look past his off field issues and as the guy you quoted, that was his point with jenkins. Jenkins had tons of off field issues, even had academic issues, had to transfer schools and play for a smaller school but turned his life around once he got drafted (jimmy smith for baltimore had off field issues also, look how he turned out). MAthieu would be worth a 4th,5th or 6th round pick.


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#42 wig

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:02 PM

i dont think the OP mentioned anything about using a first rounder on mathieu. as i had posted on another thread, he would be worth a shot with a 4th rd to third day pick. no one can seem to look past his off field issues and as the guy you quoted, that was his point with jenkins. Jenkins had tons of off field issues, even had academic issues, had to transfer schools and play for a smaller school but turned his life around once he got drafted (jimmy smith for baltimore had off field issues also, look how he turned out). MAthieu would be worth a 4th,5th or 6th round pick.

I wasn't responding to the OP, my point is that without any of the field issues I saw him as fourth round talent in the NFL.

#43 betheafan41

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:14 PM

I wasn't responding to the OP, my point is that without any of the field issues I saw him as fourth round talent in the NFL.

oh, i apologize then lol.but i agree i dont see him as nothing more then 4th round or later talent. which is where i still think we should draft him. regardless of his off field issues i beleive he could be a very good nickel back for us


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#44 Michael Bolden

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

Alright Tyrann Mathieu is a beast watch game tape he has entered drug classes and i will take talent over off the field issues anyday if those problems never came up in the first place he would be drafted  in the 1rst round.



#45 Dustin

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

Alright Tyrann Mathieu is a beast watch game tape he has entered drug classes and i will take talent over off the field issues anyday if those problems never came up in the first place he would be drafted  in the 1rst round.

 

No way he would have gone in the first round even without the drug problems. He's not an elite cover corner and doesn't match-up well against taller, bigger receivers. He'll be a career nickel corner and return guy. Without all of the off the field issues I would have been surprised if he was taken before the 3rd round.


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#46 Michael Bolden

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

No way he would have gone in the first round even without the drug problems. He's not an elite cover corner and doesn't match-up well against taller, bigger receivers. He'll be a career nickel corner and return guy. Without all of the off the field issues I would have been surprised if he was taken before the 3rd round.

He is an aggressive corner he was matched up against big receivers all the time even tight ends and still took the ball out of there hands like they were little children.



#47 Dustin

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:54 PM

He is an aggressive corner he was matched up against big receivers all the time even tight ends and still took the ball out of there hands like they were little children.

 

Those were college receivers though. In our division he would be playing against Cecil Shorts, Owen Daniels, and Kenny Britt as our #2. I'd feel much better about him playing whoever was in the slot than those guys.


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#48 Michael Bolden

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

Those were college receivers though. In our division he would be playing against Cecil Shorts, Owen Daniels, and Kenny Britt as our #2. I'd feel much better about him playing whoever was in the slot than those guys.

I understand what your saying.



#49 ADayWithoutRain

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

That's an excellent idea dustin!Let's waste our 3rd on a smallish and slow trouble making *,with severe character issues.



#50 jvan1973

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

so did jimmy smith (Ravens) and Janoris Jenkins (rams) and both of them turned out just fine as soon as they hit the NFL. just because they do something stupid in college (alot of college kids do) whether its once or twice or even three times does not mean you cant change. NFL players do far much worst and get paid top dollar, just ask michael vick.

Not with the colts they don't..

#51 jvan1973

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

That's an excellent idea dustin!Let's waste our 3rd on a smallish and slow trouble making *,with severe character issues.

You're right, picking up Edelman is a much better idea

#52 Dustin

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

slow trouble making *,with severe character issues.

 

Sounds like somebody I know.


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