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So is Chuck Pagano really the DB Whisperer?


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You are replying to the single most forum member who thinks the whole coaching staff should be fired including Grigson. So no, his comment was not tongue in cheek.

It does make you wonder why some INDY fans want to punish success CC1 doesn't it? Pagano gets further & further into the post season under his tenure & some want Chuck replaced. Huh? What? 

 

That's like your financial investor making you a billionaire & you fire them because they didn't make you filthy rich fast enough. Crazy isn't it? 

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He needs to quit whispering & speak up loudly so the whole defense might share in his infinite wisdom .

 

Be loud & Proud & build this Monster ...

Whenever someone uses the words "infinite wisdom" it usually means that the all knowing person is dumber than a box of rocks & not as bright as they think they are or often given credit for. 

 

Chuck Pagano is quite intelligent, well versed in football fundamentals, & far from intellectually challenged in his capacity as head coach. 

 

I knew what you meant Adonis, but to me, those words carry a negative not positive connotation. I beg to differ with you on that final conclusion about Coach Pagano. 

 

It customarily means that a person is a fool as opposed to say a genius. I disagree with that critique of Chuck. JMO. 

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Whenever someone uses the words "infinite wisdom" it usually means that the all knowing person is dumber than a box of rocks & not as bright as they think they are or often given credit for. 

 

Chuck Pagano is quite intelligent, well versed in football fundamentals, & far from intellectually challenged in his capacity as head coach. 

 

I knew what you meant Adonis, but to me, those words carry a negative not positive connotation. I beg to differ with you on that final conclusion about Coach Pagano. 

 

It customarily means that a person is a fool as opposed to say a genius. I disagree with that critique of Chuck. JMO. 

 

Whenever someone uses the words "infinite wisdom" it usually means that the all knowing person is dumber than a box of rocks & not as bright as they think they are or often given credit for. 

 

Chuck Pagano is quite intelligent, well versed in football fundamentals, & far from intellectually challenged in his capacity as head coach. 

 

I knew what you meant Adonis, but to me, those words carry a negative not positive connotation. I beg to differ with you on that final conclusion about Coach Pagano. 

 

It customarily means that a person is a fool as opposed to say a genius. I disagree with that critique of Chuck. JMO. 

 

 

Chuck Pagano is quite intelligent, well versed in football fundamentals, & far from intellectually challenged in his capacity as head coach. 

I agree with this who don't ?  I have not stated otherwise  .

 

I understand your opinion my friend but if you know what i meant then you'd realize I'm neither a hater of our coach nor am I saying he is a fool .

 

In no way do I think he is a fool so let me be perfectly clear .

 

My point IMO was simple if Coach Pagano is whispering advice to DB's he needs to speak louder so the rest of the defense can benefit .  Tony Dungy was brought to the Colts to improve the defense & so was Chuck Pagano I'm still waiting patiently .

 

My post was not a critique of Chuck Pagano . He needs to be given the players thats on Grigson . My point was & is simple the whole defense needs his words of wisdom .

 

 

Whenever someone uses the words "infinite wisdom" it Usually

means that the all knowing person is dumber than a box of rocks & not as bright as they think they are or often given credit for.

 

 

I will google infinite wisdom to try to understand your point of view .  Consider this as a unusual use of the phrase & that a Californian & a Hoosier may not always see things the same way :thmup: :thmup:  IMO infinite wisdom means the dude is really smart but then again I'm just a union bricklayer I work with my hands better than the english language .

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