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Dez Bryant Good or Bad?

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We certainly know you are a bad loser, so at least you are being consistent for sure. I personally prefer 'class' over 'non-class' any day. I just wonder what values you will bring your children up with, now, or if and when you have any.

There you are with the personal shots again. Are you always this angry and generally unpleasant?

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If I was the man with the authority there, he'd be gone after pulling that crap. Especially when other disruptive things have happened in the past. Any player can be replaced, especially on a .500 team which continually underperforms. They underperform because they have an owner/ GM and coaching staff which accepts, excuses and condones stuff like that.

If I was the man with the plan there, he go through his petulant child act one time. I'd let him know his conduct is unacceptable and If he did it again..... Gone. I'd trade him to Buffalo.

There's been zero discipline in Dallas ever since Jimmy Johnson left. Guaranteed, he'd pull that crap only one time with him as his coach, or be gone. And there's a reason Johnson left and it wasn't just because he got burnt out. There's a common denominator there and everyone knows what it is.

I don't disagree about the leadership there but that is in part why Bryant does act the way he does. He is your best player on O so no one is trading him to Buffalo. Moss pulled the same thing one time in Minnesota as well.

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Joe Montana and John Elway hated to lose but you didn't see them acting like spooned brats.

No but Marino was pretty hot-headed and of course Brady can be too. I think it is a case of different personalities. The game is emotional and some guys are more robotic and others more firey. The question is whether it is hurting or helping the team. I am not sure walking off the field really bothered anyone given the epic collapse of that game. He still needs to be talked to and told that he needs to stay with his teammates no matter the outcome of the game. 

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Joe Montana and John Elway hated to lose but you didn't see them acting like spooned brats.

 

Montana demanded a trade out of SF after Youngs success.....And John Elway hated losing so bad he threatened to play an entirely different sport if he had to go to a 'certain' team......

 

 

I personally just see a guy sick of losing, and sick of the cowboys underachieving culture. At least he is showing his emotions thru his actions. Where as other players and veterans on that team aren't willing to, just continually giving company lines....

 

Maybe that team would be better off if some of its stars like Ware or Witten walked off or emotionally exploded.....

 

If this were a winning team, with a culture of winning like the Colts, or the Pats I dont think I'd support Dez. But this is a team thats made the playoffs 1 time in the last 6 years. Something obviously isnt working.  

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I just think a guy who is screaming at his teammates and slamming his helmet down when things don't go his way is having a breakdown and hurting his team . To me, offense is more precision than emotion...Severe emotional freak-outs (and Dez has them almost every week)  get in the way.

 

I think he's got larger problems.

I hope the team is trying to help him with his issues .......He's not OK

 

He hasn't been that bad this year other than the tantrums and leaving the sidelines. I hope to dear lord Dallas is helping him with the way that team is right now.

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I don't disagree about the leadership there but that is in part why Bryant does act the way he does. He is your best player on O so no one is trading him to Buffalo. Moss pulled the same thing one time in Minnesota as well.

 

True, but I think Moss left with something like only 2 or 3 seconds left on the clock.

 

His departure is more comparable to Belichick walking off the field of SBXLII with one second left on the clock than Bryant leaving with over a minute. 

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Yeah because that definitely happened with Michael Irvin.

Michael Irvin had off field issues, but never did you see him pull antics like that on the field. He didn't because he knew how his coach would respond. And Irvin credits Johnson for being one of the prime reasons he got his off field issues straightened out.

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Montana demanded a trade out of SF after Youngs success.....And John Elway hated losing so bad he threatened to play an entirely different sport if he had to go to a 'certain' team......

 

 

I personally just see a guy sick of losing, and sick of the cowboys underachieving culture. At least he is showing his emotions thru his actions. Where as other players and veterans on that team aren't willing to, just continually giving company lines....

 

Maybe that team would be better off if some of its stars like Ware or Witten walked off or emotionally exploded.....

 

If this were a winning team, with a culture of winning like the Colts, or the Pats I dont think I'd support Dez. But this is a team thats made the playoffs 1 time in the last 6 years. Something obviously isnt working.

Bunk.....

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Michael Irvin had off field issues, but never did you see him pull antics like that on the field. He didn't because he knew how his coach would respond. And Irvin credits Johnson for being one of the prime reasons he got his off field issues straightened out.

 

Irvin stabbed some guy in the neck with a pair of scissors in the locker room and you think he would get rid of Dez because he walked off the field early?

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True, but I think Moss left with something like only 2 or 3 seconds left on the clock.

 

His departure is more comparable to Belichick walking off the field of SBXLII with one second left on the clock than Bryant leaving with over a minute. 

Yes Moss did walk off with a few seconds left but his team was lining up to try an onside kick and were only down 21-18, http://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165452

 

I think in Dez' case the game was over when he walked off even though there was more time.

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Yes Moss did walk off with a few seconds left but his team was lining up to try an onside kick and were only down 21-18, http://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165452

 

I think in Dez' case the game was over when he walked off even though there was more time.

 

In all three cases, the odds of winning were slim to none and I view an early departure as nothing more than poor sportsmanship. 

 

Although in the case of Moss and Bryant, at least they have the excuse of being tired of losing.

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Remember Mike Singletary sending Vernon Davis to the locker?  Similar situation Davis hated to lose and it was affecting his play so Coach sent him to the locker.  Football is played with emotion but it must be controlled, Davis seemed to control/funnel his emotion now into the game and Bryant must control his emotions.  I remember one of my coaches said, "The easiest thing to do on a loss is blame the ref, blame the coach, kick the water bucket (lol way before Gatorade) or point fingers at your teammates!  The hardest thing to do is man up and come back tomorrow, study your films, practice harder and play harder. Can you do it"?  It was a challenge to us to man up and practice harder, play smarter and play better.

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In all three cases, the odds of winning were slim to none and I view an early departure as nothing more than poor sportsmanship. 

 

Although in the case of Moss and Bryant, at least they have the excuse of being tired of losing.

Bryant maybe but not Moss. His team went to the playoffs that year despite the loss to the Skins. Of course in the WC round vs the Packers he faked mooned the Lambeau crowd in a win. Moss really was one of a kind when it came to this stuff.

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