Integrity of the Game

[LJpalmbeacher2]

8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Love your last part where it starts - UNLESS  . Yeah, I am not even upset we lost today. After last week, I am done getting upset, that was the straw the broke the camel's back for me. I am already over losing today, it only took me a few hours this week. Don't get me wrong, I still want us to win and will get upset if we lose but I will get over it quick now.

 

I know you really, really want to win. At all costs, even if it meant having Brady as our QB. LoL

Which is why I hate the way the NFL is, because of die hard fans like you and the way I used to be. Sports leagues are playing with fans which is not right and they will make billions no matter what so why interfere with fans livelihood?  Now I care less and since the NFL classifies themselves as entertain!ent that's the way I will mostly look at it too. Watching AR5 is entertaining, watching Minshew is not....so I've distanced myself since his injury and the NFL. Except for bets that is and don't hardly even watch games I betted.. Today I went bass fishing and wore a colt cap lol, and the two previous weeks I went golfing.

 

Hopefully AR5 returns healthy in '24 and I can be entertained again and colt fans can enjoy more like they deserve to do. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 10/23/2023 at 1:57 PM, Jared Cisneros said:

Games are absolutely being rigged. IMO, they've been rigged since at least 2001 (which is the earliest time I noticed because of 9/11. We're at a time where sports gambling is legal online and in casinos, and it's gone from just rigging games and the playoffs and championships for ratings and merchandise sales to doing it to cover spreads and earn vegas and these gambling sites money. 

 

It's turned from the best kept secret from the fans to the worst kept secret from the fans, just like WWE Wrestling. At first, everyone thought it was real, then subtle hints were thrown that it could be predetermined, now everyone knows it's predetermined because it has been admitted. Football is at that middle stage, where the subtle hints are being thrown around that it's rigged or predetermined, but people don't believe it yet, or don't want to believe it, but it'll eventually be admitted that the outcomes are predetermined at some point, whether a ref comes out, or someone else in a high position of power.

 

Games have been at the very least suspected way before 911 and way before your time. Its been written and talked that SB3 was rigged because the NFL needed the AFL to win to justify the merger and the super bowl game. 

A lot of talk came from that game where namath beat Shula's colts .with Johnny Unitas.on.the bench..

It was.before our time so you and I  cant get blamed for the talk and writing done about those times lol.Football has always had gambling and owners who had syndicate ties.

[2006Coltsbestever]

28 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

I know you really, really want to win. At all costs, even if it meant having Brady as our QB. LoL

Which is why I hate the way the NFL is, because of die hard fans like you and the way I used to be. Sports leagues are playing with fans which is not right and they will make billions no matter what so why interfere with fans livelihood?  Now I care less and since the NFL classifies themselves as entertain!ent that's the way I will mostly look at it too. Watching AR5 is entertaining, watching Minshew is not....so I've distanced myself since his injury and the NFL. Except for bets that is and don't hardly even watch games I betted.. Today I went bass fishing and wore a colt cap lol, and the two previous weeks I went golfing.

 

Hopefully AR5 returns healthy in '24 and I can be entertained again and colt fans can enjoy more like they deserve to do. 

As a diehard fan, I hate losing, I hate losing at anything but regarding this season for the Colts it looks inevitable. It is hard for me to accept this, but reality is reality. It is a league now, where if you don't have a QB that is popular or great you are screwed. I was lucky enough to live in my prime years with Peyton and we won a SB. I was 26 going on 27 when Peyton got drafted so I did some partying in my day  .

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 10/23/2023 at 2:23 PM, Mitch Connors said:

I voted no on all counts mostly because it would require dozens (if not hundreds) of people to pull it off and there is absolutely zero chance someone wouldn't talk. However, I also believe more and more people would vote yes and that's a disturbing trend for the league. A vast majority of my friends and fantasy football league members believe the NFL is using refs to fix games. I'll grant you that 15-20 people in my circle doesn't move the needle but if that same percentage is true in other circles the NFL had better figure this out asap.

 

But there has been players that talk....they just don't get publicity. The people that control the media are the same ones who pay billions of dollars to broadcast the games and the pregame/post game shows and all the talking head analysis shows.  Don't you think its in their best interest not to acknowledge/publicize  someone who is talking about the integrity of the games? 

 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 10/24/2023 at 6:18 AM, bluebombers87 said:

Irrelevant. You asked why this wasn’t karma. I’m asking why you think karma even exists as a possibility when the idea of humans being corrupt is impossible to you.

Ahhh, don't you know that everyone and the world is made of rainbows and candy canes? LoL

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 10/24/2023 at 9:02 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Great discussion here. I almost think a better question for a Poll would have been, do you think the REFS cost us the game by making 2 terrible calls at the end? There might still be a few that say NO, but if 50 people voted I am sure the answer to that would be an overwhelming YES. I am guessing out of 50 people, at least 40 would vote YES. That is 80% of the vote. I have read over a thousand comments on Youtube and Yahoo and many think the REFS were a joke in the Colts game. Several comments from posters even read as REFS 39 Colts 38. 

 

So far the poll I created in here is 50/50 to whether or not the REFS alter certain games to help teams out. That says a lot by itself. 50% is high when it comes to a subject like this. 4 posters even voted they think games are rigged. I did not but 4 believe so. 

 

On 10/23/2023 at 4:57 PM, NewColtsFan said:

Full disclosure:   
 

I did not see yesterdays game. (Bad sciatic pain)  But from what I’ve seen it’s likely I would’ve been a pretty upset fan. 
 

The pass into the corner at the end of the game landed roughly 10 yards beyond the back of the end zone.    There used to be a rule where if the pass was not playable in the field of play that the penalty flag would be picked up and wouldn’t count.   Perhaps that rule has changed?   But calling a penalty in that situation looked ridiculous.   Completely ridiculous.   To any reasonable fan I think it was a terrible look for the NFL.  
 

Im sure Steichen/Ballard has written a letter to the NFL.   I doubt we will hear much about it.   I’m curious what Steichen will say publicly today. 

 

I didn't see it either.... I went golfing. But did see highlights.I agree, It really was a bad look for the league and I heard Sterling say it was a bad look for the NFL network since they didn't want to acknowledge the blatant bad calls.

 

I thought or think I had brief encounters with sciatic but doc thinks it a bit of neuropathy. 

Basically, she wants me give up eating all protein except lean chicken breast, juice, fruits, rice except brown, potatoes, sweets, pasta AND COFFEE!!! ....but drink plain unflavored water.

So basically don't eat or drink anything that doesn't taste like cardboard!

 

I'm not giving up my gourmet flavoured coffee and pumpkin spice creamers. No way 

 

Hope you feel better soon. 

[GoColts8818]

12 hours ago, Myles said:

I am with you.   I don't watch anything i think is "predetermined".  

I watch wrestling but they tell you that going in so I feel better about it lol

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 10/25/2023 at 6:53 PM, bluebombers87 said:

That’s easy. The one with the better acumen. 
 

People who have spent years playing the game are in the vast majority of cases are far more reliably knowledgeable than “Trust me bro” people in the internet. Not saying that’s what happened here, just in general.

 

And to add to your statement, players that played in Super Bowls on both winning and losing sides said or thought the games weren't authentic. 

[CoachLite]

14 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Crap will hit the fan sooner or later. when it does Homer will be there , laughing.

https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/mike-tomlin-diontae-johnson-steelers-166328

 

Get ready to cue Homer.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, CoachLite said:

https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/mike-tomlin-diontae-johnson-steelers-166328

 

Get ready to cue Homer.

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

I watch wrestling but they tell you that going in so I feel better about it lol