FireJimCaldwell Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Very true but it doesn't have to be a package deal, it would just be very sweet if it was.I don't know any more than anyone else I just don't see Denver and outdoors.The weather isn't as bad as many seem to think.2009-2010-2011Month Games Avg TempSept 5 80.4OCT 6 54.8NOV 6 50.8DEC 4 55.0JAN 4 38.325 56.49/20/2009 Reg CLE 8210/4/2009 Reg DAL 5510/11/2009 Reg NE 3011/9/2009 Reg PIT 5511/22/2009 Reg SD 5111/26/2009 Reg NYG 5712/20/2009 Reg OAK 571/3/2010 Reg KC 369/19/2010 Reg SEA 919/26/2010 Reg IND 8510/17/2010 Reg NYJ 7310/24/2010 Reg OAK 6311/14/2010 Reg KC 4311/28/2010 Reg STL 4512/26/2010 Reg HOU 501/2/2011 Reg SD 429/12/2011 Reg OAK 759/18/2011 Reg CIN 6910/9/2011 Reg SD 5210/30/2011 Reg DET 5611/17/2012 Reg NYJ 5412/11/2011 Reg CHI 5012/18/2011 Reg NE 631/1/2012 Reg KC 351/8/2012 PS Pitt 401 game below freezing in 3 years.. Of course that doesn't mean that the next 3 years they don't have 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wouldn't root for the Broncos if you paid me. I don't care who is on that team.I dislike most AFC teams strongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemack Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I wonder if Denver's cold climate slows down nerve regeneration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 We had a top 5 offense for the whole decade? How isn't that scary. We just never had a defense except once, 2007, our playoff run and the following regular season. Too bad they fell off in the playoffs.We had a pretty good D in 2005 too.Our D's don't get as hammered as some think in the playoffs. If the Colts ran the ball better or more in some playoff losses I think they could have controlled TOP better and made it easier on the D too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 The weather isn't as bad as many seem to think.2009-2010-2011Month Games Avg TempSept 5 80.4OCT 6 54.8NOV 6 50.8DEC 4 55.0JAN 4 38.325 56.49/20/2009 Reg CLE 8210/4/2009 Reg DAL 5510/11/2009 Reg NE 3011/9/2009 Reg PIT 5511/22/2009 Reg SD 5111/26/2009 Reg NYG 5712/20/2009 Reg OAK 571/3/2010 Reg KC 369/19/2010 Reg SEA 919/26/2010 Reg IND 8510/17/2010 Reg NYJ 7310/24/2010 Reg OAK 6311/14/2010 Reg KC 4311/28/2010 Reg STL 4512/26/2010 Reg HOU 501/2/2011 Reg SD 429/12/2011 Reg OAK 759/18/2011 Reg CIN 6910/9/2011 Reg SD 5210/30/2011 Reg DET 5611/17/2012 Reg NYJ 5412/11/2011 Reg CHI 5012/18/2011 Reg NE 631/1/2012 Reg KC 351/8/2012 PS Pitt 401 game below freezing in 3 years.. Of course that doesn't mean that the next 3 years they don't have 10.That's interesting/. I thought Denver was colder than that.....That's not bad for a passing attack.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 The Titants are wanting to enter the discussion.http://www.tennessea...RTS01/120311018That and 30 million of cap room could be dangerous.Barf. I heard this on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb2001 Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 yea thats good, i wonder how many broncos fans prefer Tebow now lolWho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 We had a pretty good D in 2005 too.Our D's don't get as hammered as some think in the playoffs. If the Colts ran the ball better or more in some playoff losses I think they could have controlled TOP better and made it easier on the D too.Only if we didn't have Vander-drunk on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Only if we didn't have Vander-drunk on the team. I try to forget that moment. Man oh man........the whole ending to that game.That was too good a team to lose that soon in the playoffs. Really the most heartbreaking season and it started with the death of Dungy's boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I try to forget that moment. Man oh man........the whole ending to that game.That was too good a team to lose that soon in the playoffs. Really the most heartbreaking season and it started with the death of Dungy's boy.I know. If we just won we would've played the Broncos, who we always had success against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Woody Paige of the denver post reports that one of the leverage points the Bronco's are pushing is they have lots of cap room and would be willing to bring in Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday and Joseph Addai, and perhaps even Pierre Garcon.Looks like the Colts are heading west.They can have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 The weather isn't as bad as many seem to think.2009-2010-2011Month Games Avg TempSept 5 80.4OCT 6 54.8NOV 6 50.8DEC 4 55.0JAN 4 38.325 56.49/20/2009 Reg CLE 8210/4/2009 Reg DAL 5510/11/2009 Reg NE 3011/9/2009 Reg PIT 5511/22/2009 Reg SD 5111/26/2009 Reg NYG 5712/20/2009 Reg OAK 571/3/2010 Reg KC 369/19/2010 Reg SEA 919/26/2010 Reg IND 8510/17/2010 Reg NYJ 7310/24/2010 Reg OAK 6311/14/2010 Reg KC 4311/28/2010 Reg STL 4512/26/2010 Reg HOU 501/2/2011 Reg SD 429/12/2011 Reg OAK 759/18/2011 Reg CIN 6910/9/2011 Reg SD 5210/30/2011 Reg DET 5611/17/2012 Reg NYJ 5412/11/2011 Reg CHI 5012/18/2011 Reg NE 631/1/2012 Reg KC 351/8/2012 PS Pitt 401 game below freezing in 3 years.. Of course that doesn't mean that the next 3 years they don't have 10.Kansas CityKansas City Games Avg Temp.2009-2010-2011Sept 4 70.0OCT 7 57.0NOV 5 56.4DEC 7 35.9JAN 2 28.0Totals 25 50.79/20/2009 OAK 7210/4/2009 NYG 5910/11/2009 DAL 4010/25/2009 SD 5811/22/2009 PIT 5512/6/2009 DEN 3712/13/2009 BUF 4212/20/2009 CLE 399/13/2010 SD 789/26/2010 SF 5510/24/2010 JAX 6310/31/2010 BUF 5111/21/2010 ARI 6612/5/2010 DEN 2612/26/2010 TEN 191/2/2011 OAK 301/9/2011 BLT 269/11/2011 BUF 7510/2/2011 MIN 6510/31/2011 SD 6311/6/2011 MIA 6211/13/2011 DEN 6711/27/2011 PIT 3212/18/2011 GB 5012/24/2011 OAK 385 games at freezing or below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I know. If we just won we would've played the Broncos, who we always had success against.For sure I felt the same way. Get by the Steelers and then Broncos at home, very confident the Colts were headed to the SB if they got by Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremecoltsfan300 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.that's not true at all. only in 2002, were they top 10 in scoring d. They were seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.Before the 2005 season we had 1 defense in top 10 for points, 2002. 41-0 vs the Jets do not seem like a great defensive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 For sure I felt the same way. Get by the Steelers and then Broncos at home, very confident the Colts were headed to the SB if they got by Pittsburgh.I was so cocky that year. I was telling everyone the Colts were going undefeated. I lost that bet to my History teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Before the 2005 season we had 1 defense in top 10 for points, 2002. 41-0 vs the Jets do not seem like a great defensive team.I don't think so,check the stats.Funny how you left out the fact they didn't score in that game or the games in NE Pm was outplayed in and they got whomped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremecoltsfan300 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 And if the defense was better we probaby would have won more. but i dont put it all on d the receivers sometimes would get manhandled or make key drops. sometimes the o-line was just horrible and early in manning's playoff career he wasnt the goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sometimes you also just open up with the wrong opponent. With the Steelers....bad timing in 2005. They fell short the year before and were hitting their stride. In many ways the Steelers looked like this years Giants knocking off the well rested and offensively powerful Packers also who had a son die on the coaching staff. (but our D was better then this years Packers was)And SD a few times for the first game was also a bad matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I don't think so,check the stats.Funny how you left out the fact they didn't score in that game or the games in NE Pm was outplayed in and they got whomped.I did, and you referred to defense so that is all I presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremecoltsfan300 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I don't think so,check the stats.Funny how you left out the fact they didn't score in that game or the games in NE Pm was outplayed in and they got whomped.lol we did check the stats. maybe u should? and like i said, peyton wasnt the goat at that point, but the recievers did certianly get manhandled in some of those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.Don't let facts get in your way.1998 281999 162000 152001 312002 72003 202004 192005 22006 232007 12008 72009 82010 23Average 15% Top 10 38%% Top 5 15%During his tenure they barely were better than the NFL average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremecoltsfan300 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sometimes you also just open up with the wrong opponent. With the Steelers....bad timing in 2005. They fell short the year before and were hitting their stride. In many ways the Steelers looked like this years Giants knocking off the well rested and offensively powerful Packers also who had a son die on the coaching staff. (but our D was better then this years Packers was)And SD a few times for the first game was also a bad matchup.yea match-ups were huge. i think anytime we had to go against a top 10 offense we got smoked. and our special teams always wre especially bad in the playoffs, those charger games with our special teams gives me nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 We had a top 5 offense for the whole decade? How isn't that scary. We just never had a defense except once, 2007, our playoff run and the following regular season. Too bad they fell off in the playoffs.top ten defense in scoring in 02,05,07,08,and 09 yet 1 SB win.Sorry your theory don't fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Don't let facts get in your way.1998 281999 162000 152001 312002 72003 202004 192005 22006 232007 12008 72009 82010 23Average 15% Top 10 38%% Top 5 15%During his tenure they barely were better than the NFL average.top ten in scoring,which is the only stat that counts,in 5 years,02,05,07,08,09.Sorry game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Don't let facts get in your way.1998 281999 162000 152001 312002 72003 202004 192005 22006 232007 12008 72009 82010 23Average 15% Top 10 38%% Top 5 15%During his tenure they barely were better than the NFL average.I've always wondered where you get your stats. I like how you can copy and paste them. I can't seem to be able to do that with pro-football-reference.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremecoltsfan300 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 top ten defense in scoring in 02,05,07,08,and 09 yet 1 SB win.Sorry your theory don't fly.during those seasons we were undefeated for most of it, so what is your point? Our defense and our special teams failed in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likm Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Really, because they were all together for the last 9 years and the Colts only won one SB. How scary can that be?Nope er wrong. Try again after thinking before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 that's not true at all. only in 2002, were they top 10 in scoring d. They were seven.I corrected myself,but after 04 they were top 10 5 times yet just 1 SB win.Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 top ten defense in scoring in 02,05,07,08,and 09 yet 1 SB win.Sorry your theory don't fly.I mean you can say that, but in the playoffs those defense never showed. Peyton hasn't always been spot on either. I'm not exempting him, but he can't always be perfect. For example our best defense, 07, couldn't stop Billy Volek. Who is Billy Volek, and what has he done past that '07 playoff game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 top ten in scoring,which is the only stat that counts,in 5 years,02,05,07,08,09.Sorry game over.You lost.. 38% isn't "always" Thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 during those seasons we were undefeated for most of it, so what is your point? Our defense and our special teams failed in the playoffs.Pm failed a lot too but you people won't admit it.His playoff stats are good but far off Montana and Bradys,those are facts.period.He didn't play well enough to win more than one and the one we did it was the defense that did it.i know it hurts you all,and I love PM too,but a couple NE games,and a few other games,he just didn't play elite and he had a lot of elite weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Team sport. If the team loses in the playoffs you are allowed to put blame on the offense too. And the QB. It's not like the offense gets a free pass either for all the big game losses. Can't put it all on the defense and special teams all the time.Team sport.The offense has had icky moments as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I've always wondered where you get your stats. I like how you can copy and paste them. I can't seem to be able to do that with pro-football-reference.com.Typically i'll import and edit them with excel to make them more legible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 You lost.. 38% isn't "always" Thanks for playing.no thank you,38 is good enough to win more than 1 SB.Point is,it was the offense fault as much as the D.period,end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Pm failed a lot too but you people won't admit it.His playoff stats are good but far off Montana and Bradys,those are facts.period.He didn't play well enough to win more than one and the one we did it was the defense that did it.i know it hurts you all,and I love PM too,but a couple NE games,and a few other games,he just didn't play elite and he had a lot of elite weaponsHis playoff "stats" exceed Brady's.0/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Pm failed a lot too but you people won't admit it.His playoff stats are good but far off Montana and Bradys,those are facts.period.He didn't play well enough to win more than one and the one we did it was the defense that did it.i know it hurts you all,and I love PM too,but a couple NE games,and a few other games,he just didn't play elite and he had a lot of elite weaponsI don't think Peyton is a great big game QB. It is not something that I love to say but it's the truth to me. He is consistent and and all time great though. His little brother is a clutch big gamer though in two SB runs. This wasn't even a great Giants team either that won the SB this year or in 2007 but they pulled it together and Eli contributed with big plays when needed in road playoff games in hostile environments and in both SB wins.It's not always about the numbers. It's about making those key plays on offense sometimes to ice the game or get the much needed score in a big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Team sport. If the team loses in the playoffs you are allowed to put blame on the offense too. And the QB. It's not like the offense gets a free pass either for all the big game losses. Can't put it all on the defense and special teams all the time.Team sport.The offense has had icky moments as well.you will have a hard time finding anybody in Indianapolis who would admit that it wasn'teveryone elses fault except PM they only won one SB.Facts be darned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Woody Paige of the denver post reports that one of the leverage points the Bronco's are pushing is they have lots of cap room and would be willing to bring in Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday and Joseph Addai, and perhaps even Pierre Garcon.Looks like the Colts are heading west.That would great for the broncos,if it were 5 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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