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5 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

..am I allowed to say that Victor Oladipo isn't even the best defensive guard on the Pacers..?

So how was he 1st team All-D???

Oladipo led the league in Steals and Deflections, he definitely deserves 1st Team All-Defense. Has anyone ever not made 1st team leading the league in those 2 categories?

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3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Oladipo led the league in Steals and Deflections, he definitely deserves 1st Team All-Defense. Has anyone ever not made 1st team leading the league in those 2 categories?

But  Cory Joseph is a better defender than Victor is...right?

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8 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

But  Cory Joseph is a better defender than Victor is...right?

No, he doesn't play enough minutes per game to be considered that. Oladipo logs many more minutes and has to play Great Defense much longer in games. A bench player can be great at anything if they only play 20-25 minutes and just do 1 thing. If Joseph started and played 36 minutes a game guarding the others team best Guard he wouldn't look near as good, JMO.

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17 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

No, he doesn't play enough minutes per game to be considered that. Oladipo logs many more minutes and has to play Great Defense much longer in games. A bench player can be great at anything if they only play 20-25 minutes and just do 1 thing. If Joseph started and played 36 minutes a game guarding the others team best Guard he wouldn't look near as good, JMO.

You can say that but ...

Cory Joseph was our defensive specialist...you said so yourself

He was on the floor at the end of games so Vic wouldn't have to guard the top scorer on the other team. .

We both saw that....we said it right here many times.

 

I mean, its Okay....but this was a complete shock to me

 

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Just now, oldunclemark said:

You can say that but ...

Cory Joseph was our defensive specialist...you said so yourself

He was on the floor at the end of games so Vic wouldn't have to guard the top scorer on the other team. .

We both saw that....we said it right here many times.

 

I mean, its Okay....but this was a complete shock to me

 

I don't disagree that Joseph is a Great Defender but Oladipo just played more minutes and led the league in Steals so I see why Oladipo made 1st team.

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah this is just like Game 4. Should be a great 2nd Half.

These teams are an odd match because they both want to win the 3-point line..but they get there so differently

 

GSW 'plays the game the right way" according to the talkers because they pass so much.

Houston plays isolation and 'hero' ball with Harden and Paul

It's intriguing to see who will win out here

 

Finding the open man is classic basketball..but at the end of games, you need a 'hero' to take the big shots

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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

These teams are an odd match because they both want to win the 3-point line..but they get there so differently

 

GSW 'plays the game the right way" according to the talkers because they pass so much.

Houston plays isolation and 'hero' ball with Harden and Paul

It's intriguing to see who will win out here

 

Finding the open man is classic basketball..but at the end of games, you need a 'hero' to take the big shots

Yeah this 2nd Half should be really good. Normally the Warriors kill teams in the 3rd Qtr so it's important for the Rockets to keep the crowd in it and start fast.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I don't disagree that Joseph is a Great Defender but Oladipo just played more minutes and led the league in Steals so I see why Oladipo made 1st team.

I was shocked....and still am....we inserted Joseph in games so Vic would have to guard the other teams top scorer.

We talked about it many times here.

Vic is all-NBA and that;s more important

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Just now, oldunclemark said:

I was shocked....and still am....we inserted Joseph in games so Vic would have to guard the other teams top scorer.

We talked about it many times here.

Vic is all-NBA and that;s more important

Yeah Vic made 3rd Team All-NBA, so did PG-13. That 3rd team looks great on paper.

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah this 2nd Half should be really good. Normally the Warriors kill teams in the 3rd Qtr so it's important for the Rockets to keep the crowd in it and start fast.

I;m surprised how sloppy these games have been..so many turnovers

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am surprised Iggy isn't playing tonight, in the pregame the other night the guys were saying if needed, Iggy could play. Maybe he had a set back?

You must be right...because if he didn't play in Games 4 and 5....a veteran like that...they only ask 15-20 minutes of him

...he must really not be able to play ….

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GS missed Iggy a lot. Having to switch centers onto Paul and Harden is killing them. GS can’t really go small like they want. What I don’t understand is why KD doesn’t sit on the post when anyone but Ariza is on him. Clear out and get him the ball 6-7 feet away and he can just turn and shoot over Paul, Harden, and Tucker.

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

CP3 is on fire, CP3 showboating/shimming in Curry's face but he better be careful because he's flirting with disaster. That may get Curry going. 59-59 as of now.

He hit a couple of miracle shots.....Harden is not playing well and hasn't all series

…...They are giving Durant the 1-on-1 chances and I agree.....he should take them....dont force passes...

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    Durant's got to shoot the ball...

Stop making the 'extra pass'.....Houston is throwing up bricks....GSW is missing a chance here

 

I guess there is real pressure…..stars missing open shots

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Harden cant buy a 3!

Harden is coming up small...

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