Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

Jets Reporter: Darrelle Revis vs. Odell Beckham isn’t a fair fight as Jets CB just can’t shut down the top WRs anymore


amfootball

Recommended Posts

Jets play the Giants on Sunday in the show down of NY teams. This article came out from Jets beat reporter Manish Mehta on Revis' decline this year. He has fallen off so rapidly that Mehta believes this match up with Beckham will be ugly of the Jets have Revis on him in man coverage with no help. A few snippets:

Nobody this great deserves to suffer the indignity of being marginalized by air quotes, but here’s the unvarnished truth: Revis Island should be permanently shut down.

Texans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins embarrassed Darrelle Revis two weeks ago. Odell Beckham Jr., will do the same if the Jets cornerback is cleared to play this weekend after suffering a concussion in Houston.

Revis will find a permanent place in Canton one day, but this won’t be a fair fight. Beckham will threaten Flipper Anderson’s 26-year-old single-game receiving record (336 yards) if the Jets are foolish enough to give him the true Revis Island treatment.

The Jets obviously believed that the nine-year veteran had at least 2-3 years of top-end play left when they guaranteed him $39 million as part of a five-year, $70 million deal, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. The 30-year-old has been visibly slower this year. His decline was inevitable, but it’s surprising that his skills appear to be eroding at this rate.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't believe this at all.  I don't think Beckham will do much against him, I think it probably more has to do with the Jets sorry offense going three and out a lot.  Defense is probably tired as well as Revis.  I watched Malcolm Butler play a pretty good game against Beckham other than that one long play he had.  Surely D. Revis can play with him!  They mention D. Hopkins, but D. Hopkins is playing on another level right now.  He's one of the best in the game at this moment.  You're not going to shut everybody down all the time.   I don't think Beckham is going to show out on Revis.  It'll probably be a quiet day for Beckham I think.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, krunk said:

I don't believe this at all.  I don't think Beckham will do much against him, I think it probably more has to do with the Jets sorry offense going three and out a lot.  Defense is probably tired as well as Revis.  I watched Malcolm Butler play a pretty good game against Beckham other than that one long play he had.  Surely D. Revis can play with him!  They mention D. Hopkins, but D. Hopkins is playing on another level right now.  He's one of the best in the game at this moment.  You're not going to shut everybody down all the time.   I don't think Beckham is going to show out on Revis.  It'll probably be a quiet day for Beckham I think.

It could be moot if Revis is not allowed to play from the concussion. He looks heavier to me this year and for sure slower. He has had issues turning his hips. I think it could be a case of him being a contented player with his ring and big pay day. Also having Fitz as your QB probably does not do a lot to inspire him either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

31 minutes ago, krunk said:

I think he's nicked up to go along with the concussion.  I think he'll snap out of it.

He is only 30. The top CBs have played well into their 30's. i.e. Law, Bailey, Woodson. The only thing with Revis is he has always been all about the money so maybe he is just playing out the string to finish his career or he could be like Moss and lose it fast. Hard to tell but need to give him the rest of this season and next to see if he can get back to form or if the decline/injuries will progress.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't even think it will take that long to evaluate.  I think he'll show his worth this weekend.  I'm sure he's reading the newspaper laughing at these people writing this stuff about him.  He won't allow himself to just be called out like that I think.  We'll see this weekend I'm certain!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For some reason, there aren't any elite shutdown corners this year like there have been in previous years.  All of the big name CBs, including Vontae, Revis, Sherman, Peterson, and Haden, have had games where they've looked really beatable.  I'm not sure if they've all battled injuries or what's going on, but I haven't seen anything this year like we have in previous years where a guy like Revis or Vontae will completely eliminate his WR for 16 games.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

No one was saying this last year when he was wearing a Patriots uniform. 

 

I will never forget in 2013 when Revis was in Tampa Bay, and he got burned down by Robert Meachem of all receivers on deep balls vs the Saints. ROBERT MEACHEM. Never was a top receiver, but he owned Revis that day, it was amazing. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Bogie said:

 

No one was saying this last year when he was wearing a Patriots uniform. 

 

I will never forget in 2013 when Revis was in Tampa Bay, and he got burned down by Robert Meachem of all receivers on deep balls vs the Saints. ROBERT MEACHEM. Never was a top receiver, but he owned Revis that day, it was amazing. 

He did not meet expectations either though in New England. He was lousy the first four games when Bill had him in zone because Browner was on suspension and then he was burned by Cobb in GB on a TD right before the half that swung momentum. His worst game of his career came in the post-season vs the Ravens and then he was picked by a ref in the SB on the TD that allowed the Hawks to go up 10. I would say he was a solid corner last year but you could already see signs of decline. But I for sure wanted the Pats to resign him not knowing they type of CB play we would get this year out of Butler and Ryan but I was NOT disappointed that they did not sign him to the ridiculous deal NY gave him. The Jets are actually paying him MORE now than when he was in his prime which is just stunning. There was a lot of scuttle in the off-season that Bill felt he only had one elite year left which is why he did not make him an offer anything close to the Jets. It looks like the one year might have been an over shoot at this point. I guess we will see. I still think he has some great football left but I do question his desire at this point given he has his ring and his big pay day and a pretty lousy team around him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Meh,  I was under the impression that he was doing well before he had to go against Nuk who has proven to be one of the best receivers in the NFL this season. Even the best corners can have a bad game. I think he still has plenty of football left to play.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

For some reason, there aren't any elite shutdown corners this year like there have been in previous years.  All of the big name CBs, including Vontae, Revis, Sherman, Peterson, and Haden, have had games where they've looked really beatable.  I'm not sure if they've all battled injuries or what's going on, but I haven't seen anything this year like we have in previous years where a guy like Revis or Vontae will completely eliminate his WR for 16 games.

That is a good observation. Vikings fans have noted that Xavier Rhodes seemed to have taken a small step back this year. In 2014 he seemed to be on his way to developing into a top shutdown CB. He has not played as well this year. However, last week he limited Julio Jones to less 20 yards on 2 catches (when Rhodes was on him). Jones had 56 yds total for the game.

As for Revis, the reporter Manish Mehta is known for writing articles to get a reaction out of the players and the fans.  He is like what Brad Wells was To Colts fans. I don't take what he writes seriously. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, QwizBoy said:

Meh,  I was under the impression that he was doing well before he had to go against Nuk who has proven to be one of the best receivers in the NFL this season. Even the best corners can have a bad game. I think he still has plenty of football left to play.

He has had several poor games by his standards this year. Watkins had a good night verse him too. As Mehta notes in his article, he has been beat by receivers a lot this year but often the QB has missed the throw. That is what Mehta is pointing out is the separation the receivers are getting this season. You are right. Anyone can have one bad game but Revis has been more of a trend especially the last few weeks. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, he looks heavier to me and unable to turn his hips. He could very well be dealing with an injury too. I have a tough time believing he is done at age 30 when top CBs like him play well into their 30's but I do think it is something to watch for the rest of this season and next year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, amfootball said:

He has had several poor games by his standards this year. Watkins had a good night verse him too. As Mehta notes in his article, he has been beat by receivers a lot this year but often the QB has missed the throw. That is what Mehta is pointing out is the separation the receivers are getting this season. You are right. Anyone can have one bad game but Revis has been more of a trend especially the last few weeks. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, he looks heavier to me and unable to turn his hips. He could very well be dealing with an injury too. I have a tough time believing he is done at age 30 when top CBs like him play well into their 30's but I do think it is something to watch for the rest of this season and next year.

Watkins had three catches for 14 yards and no touchdowns against the Jets. That's not a good night. I admit I don't watch the Jets so I don't see much of Revis playing, but until the Texans game I hadn't heard anything bad about him this year. That Jets defense has been a force to be reckoned with this season, and Revis is a big part of that. I guess we will see if it was an anomaly or not as he continues to face off with the top receivers for the rest of the season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, amfootball said:

He has had several poor games by his standards this year. Watkins had a good night verse him too. As Mehta notes in his article, he has been beat by receivers a lot this year but often the QB has missed the throw. That is what Mehta is pointing out is the separation the receivers are getting this season. You are right. Anyone can have one bad game but Revis has been more of a trend especially the last few weeks. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, he looks heavier to me and unable to turn his hips. He could very well be dealing with an injury too. I have a tough time believing he is done at age 30 when top CBs like him play well into their 30's but I do think it is something to watch for the rest of this season and next year.

Double post. Still getting used to this new format lol.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

41 minutes ago, QwizBoy said:

Watkins had three catches for 14 yards and no touchdowns against the Jets. That's not a good night. I admit I don't watch the Jets so I don't see much of Revis playing, but until the Texans game I hadn't heard anything bad about him this year. That Jets defense has been a force to be reckoned with this season, and Revis is a big part of that. I guess we will see if it was an anomaly or not as he continues to face off with the top receivers for the rest of the season.

He got schooled by Watkins on the third down play that iced the game for the Bills. As Mehta said, you are seeing more separation this year which I have seen but not necessarily more completions or TDs although Hopkins torched him. It is not far fetched to think Beckham would do the same.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Ignoring anything to do with accuracy, level of play, etc., just based on his injury history through 8 games, it's highly unlikely he will be our QB in a few years.  It's a catch 22 with him.  If you don't utilize his legs, it will be very difficult to win with him.  If you do utilize his legs, it will be very difficult to keep him on the field.  I've come to the conclusion that his size is not necessarily a benefit.  The collisions are harder.  He goes to the ground harder.  You don't see some of the gentle drops and rolls you see with Lamar Jackson.     The fact that he's also tied to a front office that might be counting their days doesn't help either.  
    • Id say avoid drafting or taking players from your team that you’re a fan of. I’m an avid fantasy guy and also a sports bettor. I literally will avoid taking any Colts players In fantasy and also during the week in fantasy football I avoid taking the props of the players I’m playing against. I never want to wish bad on anyone so for that very reason I avoid those guys. For me personally it has helped tremendously, I can still enjoy the game without bias. 
    • I will just say this about the comparisons between Luck and AR.  And even Manning.   First, as far as overall talent?  I think AR has more talent than Andrew.  And I say that as the biggest Luck fan that there is.  I loved that guy.  But he always reminded me of a Manning wannabe.  Someone who had more pure talent.  Who was very smart.  But I never ever got the feeling that he wanted to win and put in the hours that Manning did.  And I think that was proven when he retired so early.  Manning was like an AI robot who studied 23 hours a day.  Just a huge will to win.    But what Luck had was pain tolerance, drive and overall ability due to his teaching since he was a kid...and his will to do what is right for the team.    IMO that was 100% MORE than AR's is right now.  Not even close.    If only you could clone a combo between Manning and his smarts, Luck and his pain tolerance, and AR and his pure athletic ability.    I am sorry but unless AR is the unluckiest person in the history of the NFL, NO ONE gets hurt this much.  He is a wreck.  Heck I remember in his first pre season game last year he ran out of bounds and started to limp.  Literally his very first hit ever.  Right then I said to myself "uh oh".  And then he has not finished what......4 of his all time starts?  Out of 8?  I mean....that is not normal QB behavior.  He seems to get hurt on almost every hit he takes.    Make that make sense.    It is very VERY odd to say the least.   I want AR to do well because he seems like a good guy and he has all the talent in the world  But after this last game and his words after? For lack of a better word I don't think he has any ability at all to do 2 things.     One....protect himself.   Two.....take a hit and feel pain without it being the end of the world.  He seems to have no pain tolerance whatsoever.  Which is fine.  Just don't be an NFL Qb as a result. 
    • I'm not creating anything.  Till AR can stay on the field it's Flacco that has to be tough. 
    • I understand that but till AR shows he can stay on the field, Flacco has to be the man. It's that simple. 
  • Members

    • #12.

      #12. 3,391

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Hooch

      Hooch 3

      Rookie
      Joined:
      Last active:
×
×
  • Create New...