First drive, three runs.....

[Blackhawk4]

We have a good conversation going here, what's the problem?  Controversy?  If  the forum is that fragile, then I don't know what to tell you.  I can say that I am mod on a very large forum myself, and would not interject myself into an on going thread that was within the rules of the forum in such a manner. 

This right here ladies and gentlemen is what qualifies as a "knee-jerk reaction." The Original post and thread title did the same thing, but this post right here just seems to be the best example. 

[Jay Kirk]

No Satele life is good T.R. running and Luck picking them apart,not over have to do the same in 2nd half.Cudos to the D after they adjusted

[sfergson727]

What ever......

[sfergson727]

I really hope Pep doesn't go conservative in the second half, the first drive was not a great omen.

[Dark Superman]

Not at all.  Notice that we have abandoned the run first offense, and it's worked.  I applauded Pep appropriately.  Now, where we go from here, we'll see.

 

How exactly did our first three drives go again??????

Running the ball is key. But if we can't we need to protect Luck and let him get the ball off.

Our defense looks great.. Just need to put together long scoring drives.

[sfergson727]

Defense definitely is outstanding so far....I'd like to see the passing game open up the run game.

[sfergson727]

Anyone watching this game can not disagree that we have been more effective passing then running, except of course for the play that just happened while I was typing this....

[sfergson727]

Now, two drives in a row, we have run on 1st, and it derailed the drives.  (I thought Hilton was going to get that one though...)

[No 1 Manning Fan]

Anyone watching this game can not disagree that we have been more effective passing then running, except of course for the play that just happened while I was typing this....

Well, Denver has one of the better run defenses this season. And the Colts run game is entirely to predictable. If Pep mixed it up, running different plays from the same look, running in pass formation, etc... It might be a different story. You can't completely abandon the run. That negates your PA game.

[sfergson727]

Yes....and I will say that I am pleased that Pep has, at least with the exception of the first three drives has called a decent game, but I am disappointed with the first couple drives in the second half that were killed by running on 1st and 10 for a loss.

[Iancolts]

Dude see what happens when you let luck loose? I mean there are times where bad things happen don't get me wrong. But good stuff happens more then bad so pep let luck do his job and quit making him look like a rookie QB

[sfergson727]

That end around was a classic example of using the pass to set up the run.

[Iancolts]

Oh man broncos down by 6 we need another scoring drive field goal or td will seal the deal

[Iancolts]

C'mon too much time for us to be letting off the gas what the hell pep you're doing good now we see this a 6 point lead is nothing. Great now Wayne is hurt

[Iancolts]

Oh yeah D int at the 20!!! Now watch pep run it to death instead of just putting them away!!

[Coltsjd55]

DHB is killing me right now

[Iancolts]

Lol I know DHB fast no hands!!! Even the announcer says he spends more time then any wide receivers on the jug and dude still can't catch a cold! Man if we win this game I'll won't be able to sleep and losing Reggie is gonna hurt I pray he doesn't stay out for long heal up in a few days Reggie please!!

[Iancolts]

One more first down and it's game Peyton stays on the side line and we win.

[sfergson727]

Well, Pep went conservative and now we have to give the ball back with 2:00 left...we all know that Peyton has scored more than 9 points in less time.

[sfergson727]

My gripe with Pep is this, with the players we have on this team, we should not be a run first team.  We don't have the talent.  We do have the talent with our QB and some (not Heyward Bey) of our receivers.  We should be using the passing game to open the running game, which I will admit Pep did later in the first half and parts of the second.

 

I don't think Pep should be fired.  I do think that this business of Run First, needs to be re-evaluated.

[Iancolts]

Good teams especially playing against peyton go for the first down to close it out!!! I mean look at patriots playing us when peyton was here they close it out

[Surge89]

My gripe with Pep is this, with the players we have on this team, we should not be a run first team. We don't have the talent. We do have the talent with our QB and some (not Heyward Bey) of our receivers. We should be using the passing game to open the running game, which I will admit Pep did later in the first half and parts of the second.

I don't think Pep should be fired. I do think that this business of Run First, needs to be re-evaluated.

I applaud you for not calling for firing, but I must point out some things.

1st The direction of the team is run first... honestly get over it already and this goes not to just you but everyone that has been complaining.

2nd The reason why this is, is because by our very own experience if you can run the ball and play D you win in the post season... not hard I mean cmon we wasted Manning for 13 years can people not understand this?

3rd Watch what the run game does. Honestly the run game does tons for our offense even though it doesnt get big numbers but a failed power package early in the game gives to a perfect play action later. Do you not see this? Honestly im not a huge Pep follower but I completely understand his style. Its old fashioned habitual style football! Proven to work and keep your QB upright. So sit back and look at the circumstance of the game instead of getting caught up in numbers.

[Guest TeamLoloJones]

My gripe with Pep is this, with the players we have on this team, we should not be a run first team.  We don't have the talent.  We do have the talent with our QB and some (not Heyward Bey) of our receivers.  We should be using the passing game to open the running game, which I will admit Pep did later in the first half and parts of the second.

 

I don't think Pep should be fired.  I do think that this business of Run First, needs to be re-evaluated.

The running game has been doing a good job of helping keep Luck clean.  That's the most important aspect we all need to take into account.

[Surge89]

The running game has been doing a good job of helping keep Luck clean. That's the most important aspect we all need to take into account.

Ah such a breath of fresh air :-)

[sfergson727]

I applaud you for not calling for firing, but I must point out some things.

1st The direction of the team is run first... honestly get over it already and this goes not to just you but everyone that has been complaining.

2nd The reason why this is, is because by our very own experience if you can run the ball and play D you win in the post season... not hard I mean cmon we wasted Manning for 13 years can people not understand this?

3rd Watch what the run game does. Honestly the run game does tons for our offense even though it doesnt get big numbers but a failed power package early in the game gives to a perfect play action later. Do you not see this? Honestly im not a huge Pep follower but I completely understand his style. Its old fashioned habitual style football! Proven to work and keep your QB upright. So sit back and look at the circumstance of the game instead of getting caught up in numbers.

 

 

The running game has been doing a good job of helping keep Luck clean.  That's the most important aspect we all need to take into account.

 

While this all true, which is more productive?  We had two different games, Chargers and Broncos.  In the Chargers game, we tried to be a run first team, and it netted us 9 points and a loss.  In the Broncos game, the first three drives mirrored the Chargers game, then we opened it up, and scored 21 unanswered points. 

 

I still maintain that we don't have the personnel to be a upfront run first team.  We are most effective when we use the pass to open up the running  game, and the proof of that is what we witnessed last night.

 

I'm not saying we should do nothing but pass, but think about how many drives we have lost this season by running on 1st down for no gain, running on second down for no gain, and then facing third and a mile. 

[Surge89]

While this all true, which is more productive? We had two different games, Chargers and Broncos. In the Chargers game, we tried to be a run first team, and it netted us 9 points and a loss. In the Broncos game, the first three drives mirrored the Chargers game, then we opened it up, and scored 21 unanswered points.

I still maintain that we don't have the personnel to be a upfront run first team. We are most effective when we use the pass to open up the running game, and the proof of that is what we witnessed last night.

I'm not saying we should do nothing but pass, but think about how many drives we have lost this season by running on 1st down for no gain, running on second down for no gain, and then facing third and a mile.

We did try and open it up in the San Diego game... Every receiver dropped a pass good Lord. Why are you arguing against an offensive style that had worked for a century?

[Warhorse]

Darn it. Cant defenses just keep 8 in the box so we can "let the offensive passing game loose"?

 

Lol.