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Ya-Sin was acquired by the Raiders ahead of the 2022 season - correlated to the downtrend starting with 2022, into 2023.
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By 2006Coltsbestever · Posted
I am not sure in what order my top 10 would be but Mahomes has to be #1, doesn't he? -
By NewColtsFan · Posted
Well…. That wouldn’t have been my top-4, or yours either. And I think it’s a bad look for the Network. But it is what it is…. 🙄. 🙄. -
@w87r So, let's not derail this and make it a ballard thread, because we know how that goes. But I will respond to a couple of your questions, and then move on. What about Brents and Jones? I just forgot to throw them at the bottom. Every other guy's fate is known, so I was posting that. We could add them at the bottom, but the jury is out on both. Cross could almost fit into that group.. but even ballard is on record saying he needs more consistency. I think with more discipline Cross could honestly develop into something special. Kind of a confusing take looking back at it? Guess I need to go back and see if I'm missing something? I was thinking it was more of a argument against Ballard bringing in good secondary talent? When laid out, and even self admitted by ( @AKB ) good pickups seem to outweigh the bad pick ups on the original list.? origian post - first line "maybe he's just not that good at dealing with safety or secondaries in general. (I might be off by like a year on one or two)"(overall success percentage vs pass) tjhe best corners we've had are all from other teams. Rhodes, Gilmore, Moore. I give him more credit for moore because of how young he was. As for Rock ya sin, he traded him away for a pass rusher who got most of his sacks with us in garbage time. Of course, my opinion. Going back I would prefer to keep Rock than get Yannick. The issue we have with our secondary honestly probably started there. As for Rodgers, sure. I was a big fan of him. Athletic freak, and a great returner. I'm not blaming Ballard for every single player's fate on that list. I simply listed it out, from my perspective. George Odum - I acknowledge he was a great teamer. but how great of a safety was he? the main point is that he saw playing time because we had no one better. And if we saw him as a starting safety we would have given him more than what you pay a gunner. which we didn't, because we saw him as a teamer, not a starter. In conclusion, my point is that we have yet to have a unit of secondary. It's always been a hodge podge from Pierre Desir, Hairston, and Carrie, to Facyson - you can call them depth but all of them played significant time. You can call George Odum depth, but he played significant time. (Rock, Moore, and Rodgers the closest we came to a 'unit') If you like it, great. I think it is subpar and has been. We did have a three year stint (19-21) where our secondary was on the edge of top 10 for about 3 years in a row. so I'm not oblivious to some of the success he has had. but right now, is probably the worst state we've been in, and looking back over the years paints the picture clear. Here's some more numbers ### **Pass Yards Allowed** - **2017**: 21st - **2018**: 24th - **2019**: 7th - **2020**: 11th - **2021**: 10th - **2022**: 18th - **2023**: 29th ### **Pass Defense Efficiency (Opponent Passer Rating Allowed)** - **2017**: 18th - **2018**: 20th - **2019**: 5th - **2020**: 11th - **2021**: 10th - **2022**: 20th - **2023**: 30th ### **Interceptions** - **2017**: 30th (7 interceptions) - **2018**: 28th (8 interceptions) - **2019**: 9th (15 interceptions) - **2020**: 15th (12 interceptions) - **2021**: 13th (15 interceptions) - **2022**: 27th (9 interceptions) - **2023**: 31st (6 interceptions) ### **Completion Percentage Allowed** - **2017**: 25th - **2018**: 23rd - **2019**: 7th - **2020**: 14th - **2021**: 10th - **2022**: 16th - **2023**: 30th You can run the numbers yourself, and average out its about 17th best across all categories. (sounds like ballards .500 MO) If defense wins championships, I guess it makes sense we haven't won the division since he's been here. Until something changes, this is the reality. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TLDR: Ballard mismanaged the secondary starting with not extending Rock-ya-sin and our secondary last year was worse than when he took over. We are likely to see similar struggles this season. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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By 2006Coltsbestever · Posted
Then again he could look like 2015 Cam Newton
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