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Our best O-line is...STILL TERRIBLE!

I've stopped caring at this point to be honest. I just want the O-line to play well enough to not let Luck die on the field. That's it.

Costanzo is the only player worth keeping long term. Satele is ok. Everyone else is junk...a one year or two year stop gap until Grigson finds better players.

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Not sure the beatdown of Castonzo. Very view Left Tackles in the NFL can hold out the defenses best pass rusher for the amount of time these longer routes are taking. What I find so interesting about OLine is that much depends on QB and play calling. If Peyton Manning where on the team with that offense. Castonzo would be consider a very good LT. Because Manning simply would get rid of the ball so fast it wouldn't matter. How many lineman did the Colts have that became free agents, signed to other teams, and did very little or nothing at all?

Seriously, I think Castonzo will be very good one he gets a little more help and he doesn't have to block for 6 seconds on every play.

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People dogging Castanzo are foolish. He's been the ONLY reliable guy on the Oline this year. He'll never be Anthony Munoz. He'll never even be Tarik Glenn. But he's a solid NFL lineman. IF Grigson can find another top level tackle and a starting calibre guard in free agency and the draft next year, our Oline won't be half bad next year.

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Not sure the beatdown of Castonzo. Very view Left Tackles in the NFL can hold out the defenses best pass rusher for the amount of time these longer routes are taking. What I find so interesting about OLine is that much depends on QB and play calling. If Peyton Manning where on the team with that offense. Castonzo would be consider a very good LT. Because Manning simply would get rid of the ball so fast it wouldn't matter. How many lineman did the Colts have that became free agents, signed to other teams, and did very little or nothing at all?

Seriously, I think Castonzo will be very good one he gets a little more help and he doesn't have to block for 6 seconds on every play.

Eh your right Luck does have the tendency to hang onto the ball to long, sometimes thats because he misses a checkdown and other times do to long developing routes, But sometimes when I see one of our O Linemen getting beat bad its like HOLY CRAP MAN! But I think Castonzo needs to improve his run blocking quite a bit.
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Eh your right Luck does have the tendency to hang onto the ball to long, sometimes thats because he misses a checkdown and other times do to long developing routes, But sometimes when I see one of our O Linemen getting beat bad its like HOLY CRAP MAN! But I think Castonzo needs to improve his run blocking quite a bit.

I can't disagree with this. I love Luck's aggressiveness with the deep ball. Who wouldn't? But the kid has to learn to take the underneath stuff. Once he figures out when to take his shots and settle for the dump off passes when it's not there, watch out. The INTS will stop. The sacks will go down. And the Oline will look better.

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People dogging Castanzo are foolish. He's been the ONLY reliable guy on the Oline this year. He'll never be Anthony Munoz. He'll never even be Tarik Glenn. But he's a solid NFL lineman. IF Grigson can find another top level tackle and a starting calibre guard in free agency and the draft next year, our Oline won't be half bad next year.

Let's not forget...in his 2nd season, Tarik Glenn wasn't even Tarik Glenn (the way we all remember him now). Castonzo's played some fierce pass rushers and held his own, and is an asset in the run game. He's clearly developed from his rookie season and he's probably not done getting better.

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I agree that it is obvious that the interior of our O Line is a real concern(Thats obvious). We have two Guards and a Center who simply have not gotten the job done this year(to me it was a given from day 1 it was not going to work well at all) and while Justice not being a world beater, he has played decent but dont see him as being the answer at RT.I think pre injury Ijalana was better suited at LT and to help not expose Justices slow feet he could have been tried at Guard.(This was all pre injury), Next year I would do something different. As for who we put out there for the rest of the season, ......Castonzo-LT LG-Linkenbach C-Shipley RG-Mcglynn RT-Justice

You don't know if Ijalana was better suited for it or not because he played less than a half of football during the regular season in a fill in role. You can't judge any player on that little of a sample. The only other action he has seen was with the second and third units during the pre-season that year when he was just okay at best. If other teams second and third teamers were making him look just okay it's not unrealistic to think that other teams starters would tear him apart.

Castonzo on the other hand has been more than solid at left tackle there is no reason to take our best lineman and start moving him around. Yes he's had his trouble with other super star pass rushers but there isn't a left tackle in the league that doesn't have his issues with other teams super star pass rushers at times.

IF Ijalana is brought back he would probably be tried at either guard or most likely right tackle. If he was just dominating there and Castonzo really started to struggle then and only then would they think about moving him to left tackle. Till then they aren't gong to take their best o-lineman who hasn't been an issue this season and start to move him around. They are going to keep letting him grow into the poistion and use Ijalana to see if he can fill one of the four other holes on the line rather than taking the one poistion they have and saying hey let's try a guy who has played less than a half of football in two years at left tackle!

Justice I have said before I think if he's your fourth or fifth best lineman you are okay with it unfortunately for us he's been our second or third best lineman this year depending on who is healthy. So I think if we were able to land a really a couple of good guards and a center who is the answer then I think you can stick with Justice. With that said I wouldn't be shocked at all if we brought in a guy who can play right tackle either.

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