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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:
A drop of of 25 percent is huge. It’s not normal. When it happens there are reasons why…. More than just Pittman isn’t very good.Definitely effected by the crappy team around him no doubt. I didn’t see that you had typed the 2 instead of the 1.
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4 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:
A buddy of mine is a diehard Eagles fan and goes to a lot of games/TC. If he asked me to go with him I probably would, but that’s the only way I’d do it.
Just sneak in a flask and you are golden.
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4 hours ago, Archer said:
Well, I’m jealous. I always wanted to go to TC, and I used to live a couple of hours away in Kentucky. But now it seems like it’ll have to be a special trip out there with hotel stays and side trips to visit my old Kentucky friends. It’ll be a major undertaking if it ever actually happens…
Where in Kentucky? I can hit a log wedge to KY from my back porch. The border where I live is actually usually on the north side of the water unless the river is in total winter flood.
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5 hours ago, Archer said:
I thought I’d pop over to TC during a long lunch hour today, but I looked it up and it’s 887 miles for me…so, I suppose I’ll have to rely on Chloe’s excellent reporting (et al.).
Well that's under a 1000. What's the issue?
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On 7/25/2023 at 8:34 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:
You agree then with Solid unless I am slow today or missing something lol.
Yep. @Superman is occasionally on the right side of an argument.
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10 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
1. How do you know Ballard hasn’t offered a 2-3 year contract? Maybe he has and it’s been rejected?2. Maybe Taylor is expecting a 4-5 year contract at dollars that are no longer realistic?
What I’m stressing, is that the only we know is that JT is unhappy. What we don’t know is what has been offered and rejected. It takes both sides to make an agreement.
And it's likely that the unhappiness is related to the NFL market determining that RB aren't worth big money contracts.
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13 hours ago, Dunk said:
One thing I noticed last year.
Ryan"s timing with Pitt stunk. He threw a lot of passes that the defender in the trail position could get a hand on, If he had lead him more, it looked like an easy completion.
Was this just me, or did anyone else see this?
Can't say as I noticed that specifically, but I can say I noticed Ryan stunk lol. So I would assume he stunk when throwing to Pittman too lol.
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On 7/25/2023 at 10:33 AM, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
Higgins and Pittman are the exact same player. He has more opportunities because of Chase on the other side.
I disagree. He is a more impactful player than Pitt. He produced roughly the same his Rookie year without Chase than he did his other two years.
I think Higgins could be a 1300-1500 yd. receiver with 10-12 TDs with the increased target share of a primary receiver.
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On 7/25/2023 at 10:19 AM, NewColtsFan said:
Honestly, I don’t think any of us knows how good Pitt really is? I think Pitt was badly impacted last year by our disastrous offense. He went from 22.3 YPC, down to 9.3. He lost 3 yards per catch. That’s not normal. I don’t know how he’ll do this year, I’m just saying Pitt might be better than anyone even knows.He went from 12.3 to 9.3. Drop off sure, but not quite as dramatic lol.
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On 7/25/2023 at 8:41 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Yeah he was. I just don't have faith in us getting a great WR. Tee Higgins will be a free agent next season. That would be a sweet signing. Bengals are going to start losing players after Burrow gets paid. They have took advantage of his rookie contract to be able to keep almost everyone but that is about to come to end. If they don't win the SB this year, they are going to look back at the last 2 years as blown golden opportunities to win it all.
Yep, there are some players that are going to get fat deals too.
I love Higgins, but we have Pittman. I'd much rather have Higgins. If the question is do we resign Pittman or get Higgins as a FA, the latter is a no brainer to me.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
You agree then with Solid unless I am slow today or missing something lol.
I was but I think solid is disagreeing with your premise that we should pay our stud RB because we don’t have great catchers.
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8 minutes ago, Nickster said:
Kinda the opposite to me.
@2006Coltsbestever I want to give you a chance to renounce your like because you must misunderstand what I’m saying. I think not having a great WR is a reason NOT to give big money to a RB. Double and triple down on finding pass catchers and run a committee RB unit.
The Bengals were able to pay a ton to a RB because they had young stud receivers in Higgins and Boyd not making much, then they drafted Chase. Since their WR unit is spectacular and nit eating much cap as a function of their production, they were able to avoid cutting Mixon with the big number.
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19 hours ago, Solid84 said:
Us lacking a great WR isn’t really a reason to spend our salary cap on a RB though.
Kinda the opposite to me.
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11 hours ago, Matabix said:
I see long balls and scrambling his 1st games. Only thing I've heard is accuracy. His football IQ is good from mini camp reports.
I hear what you are saying. He might be QB prodigy but haven’t seen evidence on film that he consistently shows that level of accumulated knowledge. He has great tools and one thing I really like about him is he seems to move around without panicking.
what I’m saying here though is that there are 4 year old genius IQ prodigies out there and I have way way way more knowledge than all of them combined with my ahem several decades of experience.
Mini camp is NOT really FB. He is never under any true pressure because he can’t be hit. If this kid is great right away that would be shocking. He’s young, inexperienced, raw and never ran a consistently good offense in college. It seems almost implausible that he would come into the league and take it by storm. . .
BUT-if they run what Hurts ran it should be a much less steep learning curve. Ideal scenario is the line plays top 3rd again and D’s are terrified of JT running through the tackle box, threatening a TD every time he finds a crack, they pee down their legs though afraid AR fakes the belly to JT, runs around the collapsed edge, and scurries in the open field, then when they overplay the AB and C gaps and the edges there is space behind the sucked up LBs and SSs, to hit high school jump type passes to the big bodied TEs over the middle and the new slot guy, Pittman in 1 on 1 50/50 balls in the intermediate areas outside the numbers and on slants and digs coming back toward the middle, AND then when they guard all that AR simply tosses the ball up and Pierce runs under it over the top of the Completely confused and highly stressed FS.
Man I get what they are trying to do . If it works out it’s going to be a fun watch. I could see this happening but I’m looking to 2nd half of year 2 as the time this likely comes together.
IF it ever comes together. the reality is that most QBs fail including those highly drafted and I personally am not at all confident in our line. Hopefully they will bounce back. That’s not implausible to me.
But to me there are many obvious reasons that makes it likely AR struggles for a while. Why slow playing his development might be prudent. In another post I mentioned do we really want AR to absorb the punishment of 150 plus totes ala Hurts in year 3 for a team likely not to be competing at a playoff level this year?
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6 hours ago, Matabix said:
Only issue I see right now that would prevent AR from starting is his accuracy. Minshew is a pro at dink and dunk. If we are leading at half with AR starting we may put Minshew in as a save situation early in the season. I'm liking the idea more and more about 2 joint practices. It'll help the coaches evaluate alot.
Well I see more than just accuracy that would prevent a 20 year old kid with a dozen starts in CFB from starting in the NFL right away. I'd be really surprised if we went with that baseball type closer relief guy with Minshew, but the NFL is changing.
That's pretty radical though.
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This longer post was part of a different thread. I’m putting it here because it addresses these issues. Apologies for the redundancy.
As far as AR when he starts. . .
There isn’t clear evidence which method ie. Start right away or gradual insertion into the starters role is better. Mahomes sat and Burrow started day one. Brady sat, Peyton started, etc. etc etc.
for me, I don’t think anyone serious in the org thinks that we are ready to compete this year. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure most FB guys know we are a ways a way and the org has clearly stated they know AR needs development. Since this is likely the case, I would want to make sure the line isn’t the incompetent one of last season or the really bad pass pro one of the Wentz year when grooming AR.
I believe we are seeing orgs willing to use disposable QBs ie. Guys that will run a lot and be dramatically less effective as they approach 30 because of taking hits like RBs do who rarely are near their peak at 28 or 29 because of accumulated damage.
Like running JT or anyone 300 times, you are almost certain to be limiting that players league life span. So a question I have is that if we are going to run an offense similar to what Hurts ran last year, what advantage would their be toracking up hits for a whole season in a 20 year old guy running an O much simpler than the traditional NFL O.This type of offense does not take near asmuch non physical development so it’s not going to effect ARs time table asmuch. This is a team that intended to slow play a RB, Taylor in his rookieseason, until Mack got hurt.
if ar were running a pro style O then there is another aspect of the debate which is is it better to let the drop back QB watch and learn or play and learn?
For me with AR I’d rather see an emphasis on is the line going to be competentand even if it is, do we want to run this young dude 150+ times here in hisrookie season?
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14 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:
I kind of disagree about Reich. Luck has his best year under Reich. Brissett had his best year under Reich. Rivers had a bounce back year under Reich. For all the critism of Wentz, he had a statistical bounce back year under Reich. I feel Ryan would have been successful but the Oline got him killed early and he never recovered. I would say there is more evidence to suggest Reich is a qb whisperer than Steichen. Steichen had far more talent to work with. Like I said. These next 2 years will probably cement their legacies going forward. However, I can guarantee that if Young is a star, the fans here will point to Young as a can't miss prospect and Reich as having little affect on his success. Tell me this. Name me another coach in the history of the NFL to have a winning record with; I think it was 5 different qbs to start a season?I think if Luck would have stayed, this team could have been special.
Ryan was the only player that failed at QB here. Wentz was 9th in QBR. QBs played above their average here under Reich.
Ryan was a complete misfit here to begin with, even ignoring that he is washed up. We went from MR to AR organizationally and you probably couldn’t pick two players who are more different. This team with a downhill, one cut back, big body pass catchers and highly drafted and paid interior linemen (though recently terrible performance wise) is set up for a dual threat guy. I entertained before the Ryan signing to sign a guy like Mariota that could run a RPO, zone read based O thinking maybe it could maximize the un 2022 looking set of offensive players skill sets.
Looks like they are trying that for a few years any way.
As far as AR when he starts. . .
There isn’t clear evidence which method ie. Start right away or gradual insertion into the starters role is better. Mahomes sat and Burrow started day one. Brady sat, Peyton started, etc. etc etc.
for me, I don’t think anyone serious in the org thinks that we are ready to compete this year. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure most FB guys know we are a ways a way and the org has clearly stated they know AR needs development. Since this is likely the case, I would want to make sure the line isn’t the incompetent one of last season or the really bad pass pro one of the Wentz year when grooming AR.
I believe we are seeing orgs willing to use disposable QBs ie. Guys that will run a lot and be dramatically less effective as they approach 30 because of taking hits like RBs do who rarely are near their peak at 28 or 29 because of accumulated damage.
Like running JT or anyone 300 times, you are almost certain to be limiting that players league life span. So a question I have is that if we are going to run an offense similar to what Hurts ran last year, what advantage would their be to racking up hits for a whole season in a 20 year old guy running an O much simpler than the traditional NFL O.This type of offense does not take near as much non physical development so it’s not going to effect ARs time table as much. This is a team that intended to slow play a RB, Taylor in his rookie season, until Mack got hurt.
if ar were running a pro style O then there is another aspect of the debate which is is it better to let the drop back QB watch and learn or play and learn?
For me with AR I’d rather see an emphasis on is the line going to be competent and even if it is, do we want to run this young dude 150+ times here in his rookie season?
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3 hours ago, Solid84 said:
Very happy about this.
I'm really excited about our young WR and TE core, but I think the offense will look horrible this year. At least early on.
I predict the defense will dominate the offense during training camp.
We definitely need a guy with his skill set. Hope he produces here.
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Family going the 5th and/or 6th.
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20 hours ago, Myles said:
He is the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. Some people more knowledgeable than any of us thought he was a good fit to train a new young QB.
Aren’t these the same smart people that thought Matt Ryan was going to take us to the SuperBowl with Matt Pryor guarding his backside?
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11 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:
The RB position is valuable. But, the players are so interchangeable - they, as individuals, aren’t. Sounds nonsensical, eh?
Maybe but it appears to be accurate .
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6 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Emmitt Smith = 3 times (92, 93, 95), Terrell Davis = twice (97, 98). You can say that was the 90's. I can say ok, Marshawn Lynch then in 2013 and he was a hair away in 2014 from winning another. That was just 10 years ago.
Just a decade ago. Man sorry that’s funny.
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2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
That would be about like me saying, Steph Curry is only great because he can hit 30 foot shots. When there is more to his game in reality.
No it isnt. That’s silly. Leonard wasn’t the only guy using that technique either. Ball carriers have adjusted to it and it’s terrible tackling technique.
it was a wily vet old church league player move by Shaq and I respect the Hell out of that. He knew he was diminished and figured out how to stay impactful, but it doesn’t make me feel all warm and fuzzy that this tiny off the ball LB had to resort to bad tackling technique to be impactful.
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This I also agree with. Footballs hard, especially RB. I don’t care how they fight for their dollars.
BUT I wouldn’t give them big long term money.