holeymoley99

Appreciate you posting all season long, PFF isn't the end all but sure puts things in perspective

What worries me is he had the same injury to same shoulder scenario season at Gainesville Eastside which is shown in the documentary QB1 on Tubi, if anyone hasnt watched it good series and focused that year on AR, Bryce Young and Deuce Hogan.

Finals grades (Free non paid info), all below met minimum snap qualification to be graded. G. Minshew-62.0 , 34th of 42 qualified QB's J.Taylor-74.9, 24/63 Z.Moss-66.9, 43/63 R.Kelly -77.2 , 8 / 37 Q Nelson-70.8, 15/79 W.Fries- 61.2, 33/79 B. Smith- 83.3, 5/84 B Rainman- 82.3 , 7/84 B.Freeland-44.2, 80/84 M.Pittman- 77.7, 27/128 J. Downs- 70.3, 47/128 A.Pierce- 58.1, 97/128 K.Granson- 56.8, 48/73 M.Alie Cox-61.4 35/73 D.Buckner- 81.8, 13/131 G.Stewart- 76.2, 18/131 S.Ebukum- 84.4, 16/114 K.Paye- 74.3, 37/114 Dayo- 57.4, 92/114 E.Johnson-30.5, 131/131 T.Lewis- 73.7, 40/113 E.J. Speed- 65.0, 50/83 Z.Franklin- 60.9, 64/83 K.moore- 77.4, 18/128 J.Brents- 63.2, 72/128 J.Jones- 58.1, 90/128 D.Baker- 51.8, 111/128 N.Cross- 71.8, 25/99 J.Blackmon- 68.3, 39/99 R.Thomas-58.2, 90/99

Aloha Gilman is really coming into his own for the Chargers (86.1 PFF seasonal score), only 26 years old would be a nice add to Free Safety depending on what market brings him.

Hard to say how far we would go as 4 seed, likely beat Clev though not a gimme and then possibly on to balt in rematch which we may win again or may not. Truth is no club in NFL is a dominant team this year, Buffalo struggling mightly,Miami banged up beyond recognition, KC offense is broke. Pitt is bad....

I think Minshew stays unless he wants to go, Wentz was acquired for a lot of draft capital and with a huge contract to start and win. Gardener cost zero draft capital and came cheap as a #2 who could fill in if AR was injured or struggled badly. If someone offers Gardner a starting spot he will bolt but dont honestly seeing any club thinking he is their starter so dont think we need to worry.

Keep-8 50/50-5 Walk-10 Of course comes down to salary numbers, hope we dont get into too many bidding wars. MPJ,Moore and Grove biggest keepers, Minshew a good #2 we know what he brings, Harrison played big time and again for us in 2 different positions. Rigo had career numbers came back strong from his injury. Blackmon played well, injury issues so dont see anyone offering him huge money.

I sure hope it ends as well. unfortunately none of the ps to active wr shined at all so no diamond in the rough from DJ Montgomery, Winfree, Amari Rogers, Ethan Fernea

Agreed and I dont count Dulin as an NFL level wr (Was hoping he would get there but hasnt) but he is a great special teams ace and we missed that several times this season. Not sure what Mckenzie suspension is about but he wasnt playing well even before it so cant see him coming back.

I never claimed we converted 3rd downs nor played good redzone ball However if scoring is at a premium it doesnt make take a low risk field goal and give opponent good field position in fact the opposite, dont give the short field make them go long instead. The risk didnt pay off so S.S. was wrong. Majority here felt as I did not worth it SO is hindsight ...... hindsight. / (ˈhaɪndˌsaɪt) / noun. the ability to understand, after something has happened, what should have been done or what caused the event. It was said before the miss even took place, if was saying yes kick then after oh we should have punted then it becomes hindsight and if that occured and you had an issue you would the be 100% right in having issue, it did not though. Most understand this thank you, some pushing a different agenda will not admit it though unfortunately.

Changing subject partly is fine.....Minshew was awful as I also said last night, in fact his misplaced easy throw cost us the first down late in the game making a routine catch into a very difficult one.. HOWEVER to say a missed fg as opposed to punt deep doesnt make a difference in a close game is an argument you would be all alone in making and for good reason, no logic to this reasoning.

Not hindsight if said it at the time which most here did but as all know I'm a big stats guy (among biggest here) and risk went against the numbers and didnt pay off.

We really dont have that, most glaring need currently. Then another DE to pair with Ebukum,Dayo and Paye. If Kelly retires Center would become a need. We could use another Safety especially if Blackmon doesnt return (Thomas really regressed, Cross showed well more often then not).

I like Odunze, think he may flash in tomorrow's title game which may move him up a bit. We need a big play WR to go with Pitman's solid play and Downs in the slot. Pierce can be #4 and if he develops great but if not we still have weapons.

They scored with good field position so it 100% burned him

When a kicker has an injury they often have to change their kicking motion, doesnt mean they still cant boot it just not as accurate as when healthy so instead of down the middle or close (As we seen in Gay's stint with the Rams where he was 12 of 15 from over 50 as opposed to this year 8 of 13). So again no denying the risk was heavier and it burned him. Those numbers are correct I'll provide link. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GayxMa00.htm

It affected his bad performance down the stretch, if you think not then you just think he became a below avg kicker. Not sure which you believe.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/colts-matt-gay-estimated-as-non-participant/ Maybe you missed his injury not sure, was posted on here previously though Much better chance of course......

2 plays as opposed to full clock, you are on an island with that debate Im afraid.

No difference wow, yeah HUGE difference. Team would have 30 seconds to try and move into position to score not a full drive worth of time. Are you deny the stats, not sure why makes zero sense if so

Raiders game missed 50 yard fg then the flag with the questionable offside Steelers game 2 games before that missed 2 fgs Bengals game the previous missed fg and PAT

END OF HALF, you said a mouthful there. Risk/Reward much lower allowing points in that situation and no need to punt. Common sense call on that one.

I think the main difference was Gay was hitting them back then and has been missing them of late (Even missed last week vs Raiders and we got a fortunate off sides to re kick in what did not appear to be off sides at all as has been mentioned many times).

Doesnt change the fact that the fair catch wouldn't come to the 25 as posted.

I also had us at 10 wins.