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11 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:
If you have a good QB you can pull that off. Good luck.
Last season was my last season of coaching, took a team from 3rd through 8th grade. For my D, I ran a 3-3-5 single gap, except for the middle players, NT, MIKE and FS were the guys that had to read and react. I had three downlineman, two OLBs a yard off the LOS and outside the widest line player, the MIKE, the a LS and RS, they were lined up equal with the mike at the more traditional OLB spots, then CBs that played man and the FS, who followed the ball.
As long as everyone stayed disciplined it was an effective D, but when kids wanted to try to make every play, rather than staying with their assignment there would be some big plays.
I loved coaching, over the years I have about 20 years of coaching youth football but I also think I will be happy to get my August through November back.
If you're interested, my cousin who played college ball and coaches HS football, sent me a ton of videos with different drills, techniques, etc. It is all stored on a google drive, if you would like, send me a private message with your email and I will send you the link to the drive.
Absolutely! I do not turn down football philosophy. Most of what I know, I’ve learned from others.
I’ve been a youth OC and/or HC off and on for the past 15 years or so. We’ve coached just about every sport our kids have played. We love it.
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28 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
it is the Peyton Manning way-
Andrew Luck went to the prestigious Manning Passing Academy, as have the likes of Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Matthew Stafford, Philip Rivers, Sam Bradford, Nick Foles, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and Justin Herbert (among others). All of the Manning's (Archie, Cooper, Peyton, and Eli and their assistants) teach this.
Correct.
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9 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:
That is something I start teaching kids in the 2nd grade. I tell everyone (over and over and over again... they are kids afterall) that no one talks in the huddle except the QB. And then I'm constantly getting on the QBs to take control of the huddle. Being a former center myself, I also tell the center that he has to be the enforcer in the huddle... if someone doesn't shut up when the QB tells them to, it's the center's job to make sure they understand the seriousness of the, so it lead to a few scuffles during practice as the center made his point.
I coach youth football as well. I’m an OC for 5th through 8th.
The past few years we’ve been running mostly power from the I and Pro Set, some Wing T, with a little bit of spread built in.
This off-season I am pondering the idea to install an Air Raid attack, with mesh. I want to spread out more, and run a lot more Ace.
I am torn because it will be challenging for the players, but I think the end results could be worth the short term pain.
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23 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
When he says he would bet on himself. Does that mean it looks like he will be back.
To be honest, it seemed like he will go with the money. However, at the same time he also did wait for the right fit.
I think there is a chance he will come back, but if some team throws money at him then I think he’ll walk, because I don’t think Ballard will throw a lot of money at him.
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Watching Dontrelle Inman on Fair Game with Kristine Leahy. He said Andrew Luck has a dad voice in the huddle. Andrew says things like, “Shut up. Don’t talk in my huddle.”
When asked if he (Inman) will be back next year. He says that he wants to be a Colt. Says he passed up several opportunities to sign with other teams early in the season, but he waited to find the right fit. He says he bet on himself.
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We all knew either Saquon or Baker would win, but Q got a couple of votes and placed 3rd.
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11 hours ago, DarkSuperman said:
Did he make the Pro Bowl?
No. He was snubbed.
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And the Rams thank us for Austin Blythe.
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7 minutes ago, Clem-Dog said:
You are extremely thorough BlueShoe. Do you think NFL GMs rank 956 players (which equates to roughly 28 rounds)? I'd be lucky to effectively rank 50 players right now lol.
Thanks for the content.
Thank you.
I think the scouts start out with about 2,000 prospects or so. Over the course of the college season the scouts report back to the front office and narrow the focus down to about 250 players or so. I think that’s when the GM gets deeply involved in the process.
By the time the draft rolls around, I think each team really only has 100 or so draftable players on their boards. They will list a lot more on the board (war room walls), but that’s mainly to keep track of the players other teams are selecting.
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18 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Great work, but why would you go so far as to rank WR #956? LOL.
Thanks.
There are a lot of reasons.... Short version... The draft process basically enters the players into my NFL Player database. My goal is to have every player who will ever play in the NFL in my database.
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4 minutes ago, boo2202 said:
Could you post a list of your top 10 WR’s for this class? You’ve seemed to have studied the group pretty throughly. I’ve got a few I like but haven’t done enough film watching yet.
I will do better than that for you. Don't hold me to these rankings, because I have a long way to go before they are final, but here is every receiver on my board right now (including the current "penciled in" ranking I have for each):
31. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
33. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
34. D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
37. A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss
38. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
42. Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
47. JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
51. Andy Isabella, WR, UMass
62. Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
64. Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
66. Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson
84. Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri
90. David Sills V, WR, West Virginia
99. Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
100. Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo
102. DaMarkus Lodge, WR, Ole Miss
109. Terry Godwin II, WR, Georgia
114. Stanley Morgan Jr., WR, Nebraska
116. KeeSean Johnson, WR, Fresno State
129. Lil'Jordan Humphrey, WR, Texas
131. Jakobi Meyers, WR, NC State
142. Anthony Ratliff-Williams, WR, North Carolina
145. Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State
147. Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia
163. Keelan Doss, WR, UC Davis
166. Antoine Wesley, WR, Texas Tech
168. Greg Dortch, WR, Wake Forest
172. Darius Slayton, WR, Auburn
183. Tyre Brady, WR, Marshall
190. Penny Hart, WR, Georgia State
208. Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
210. Cody Thompson, WR, Toledo
225. Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor
230. Travis Fulgham, WR, Old Dominion
232. Alex Wesley, WR, Northern Colorado
233. Gary Jennings Jr., WR, West Virginia
238. Jamal Custis, WR, Syracuse
246. Felton Davis III, WR, Michigan State
259. Emmanuel Butler, WR, Northern Arizona
260. Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State
278. Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame
289. Ryan Davis, WR, Auburn
290. Johnnie Dixon, WR, Ohio State
298. John Ursua, WR, Hawai'i
305. Jaylen Smith, WR, Louisville
347. Tony Pollard, WR, Memphis
348. Jovon Durante, WR, Florida Atlantic
355. Tyron Johnson, WR, Oklahoma State
369. Olabisi Johnson, WR, Colorado State
373. Jazz Ferguson, WR, Northwestern State
383. Jonathan Duhart, WR, Old Dominion
385. Nyqwan Murray, WR, Florida State
400. Shawn Poindexter, WR, Arizona
405. Jesper Horsted, WR, Princeton
413. Terry Wright, WR, Purdue
428. Juwann Winfree, WR, Colorado
433. Deandre Thompkins, WR, Penn State
448. KaVontae Turpin, WR, TCU
474. Ventell Bryant, WR, Temple
482. Dredrick Snelson, WR, UCF
486. Trenton Irwin, WR, Stanford
498. Brody Oliver, WR, Colorado Mines
505. Jalen Guyton, WR, North Texas
508. Shun Brown, WR, Arizona
509. Trevon Brown, WR, East Carolina
521. Flynn Nagel, WR, Northwestern
523. Nick Westbrook, WR, Indiana
528. Xavier Ubosi, WR, UAB
530. Steven Sims, WR, Kansas
553. Cortrelle Simpson, WR, Richmond
567. Ashton Dulin, WR, Malone
738. Tyre McCants, WR, South Florida
770. Mykel Traylor-Bennett, WR, Akron
776. Jody Fortson Jr, WR, Valdosta State
786. Quinn McElfresh, WR, Mississippi Valley State
793. Stephen Louis, WR, NC State
801. Marquise Irvin, WR, Mercer
802. Matthew Eaton, WR, Iowa State
803. Ron'Quavion Tarver, WR, Utah State
805. Charles Holland, WR, Tiffin
806. Delane Hart-Johnson, WR, New Mexico
810. Kaian Duverger, WR, UVA-Wise
813. Jason Moore, WR, Findlay
826. Aaron Blockmon, WR, Campbell
827. A.J. Richardson, WR, Boise State
828. Tevin Isom, WR, West Georgia
832. Ryeshene Bronson, WR, South Florida
845. Dorian Baker, WR, Kentucky
846. Jaelan Austin, WR, TCU
847. Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee
848. Workpeh Kofa, WR, Charlotte
867. Deondre Douglas, WR, Troy
877. Floyd Allen, WR, Ole Miss
878. Johnathan Boone, WR, New Mexico State
879. Luke Timian, WR, Indiana
880. Michael Walker, WR, Boston College
885. Kerr Johnson Jr., WR, Kansas
886. Ryan Schadler, WR, Kansas
888. Marcus Green, WR, Louisiana Monroe
903. Jeff Smith, WR, Boston College
904. Johnathan Lloyd, WR, Duke
905. Prince Gray, WR, Jacksonville
906. Terren Encalade, WR, Tulane
907. Teddy Veal, WR, Louisiana Tech
911. Jon'Vea Johnson, WR, Toledo
912. Sean Modster, WR, Boise State
928. Damion Jeanpiere, WR, Nicholls
929. Malcolm Williams, WR, Coastal Carolina
930. C.J. Worton, WR, Florida International
936. Chico McClatcher, WR, Washington
937. Diontae Johnson, WR, Toledo
946. Demetris Anderson, WR, Kentucky State
949. Isaiah Harper, WR, Old Dominion
950. Kwadarrius Smith, WR, Akron
951. Deonte Harris, WR, Assumption
952. Nehari Crawford, WR, Duquesne
953. Scott Miller, WR, Bowling Green
954. T.J. Rahming, WR, Duke
955. Robert Lewis, WR, Washington State
956. Papi White, WR, Ohio
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1 hour ago, shastamasta said:
Fair enough...no more Renfrow talk.
But while we are on the subject of smaller WRs...what are your thoughts on Dortch? I watched some of him last night...and he looks like he could be special. Not sure about routes (lots of slants, deep posts and screens what I saw)...but he is so electric and seems to catch damn well.
Assuming Rogers is gone (probably more like than not)...the Colts should be addressing the returner position this offseason...Dortch would certainly fit.
I also like that he's only going to be 21 next year...and might have a chip on his shoulder from being passed over by so many teams.
I think there are a lot of really good small receivers in this draft. I currently have Greg Dortch ranked at #168 overall. Like most of my rankings, that is an early skimmed assessment. I haven't thoroughly evaluated all 956 prospects on my board.
The game is changing a lot and the NFL is heading toward the direction where speed is more important than size. There are a lot of reasons I think this is happening, but I can table that conversation for another topic. It's a snowball effect that could get rather long-winded.
We have heard the tone from GMs change drastically over the past few months. GM's are looking at 2 important traits now; speed and can they play....
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3 minutes ago, stitches said:
That's why almost always when I make draft comparisons I try to give the disclaimer that this is a style-traits comparison, rather than expectation of duplicating the success. There are so many additional details and personality traits and levels to the strengths and weaknesses that go into a player turning into a superstar rather than becoming a regular starter or a rotation player... or being out of the league.
I agree completely.
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1 hour ago, Matthew Gilbert said:
This is so true. I wish all of the GMs had to turn in their Big Boards after the draft. It would be awesome to see how different each front office views prospects.
The reason teams don't share that information is because they don't want other teams to know who they were looking at. This is very important for immediate UDFA signings, the 53-man roster cut-downs, and most importantly the first free agent window of the players in the draft class.
A lot of times teams will sign a free agent they highly coveted, but wasn't able to draft. The draft process ends for many of us on draft day, but those grades can have meaning to NFL front offices for several years.
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1 hour ago, CozyColt said:
I would be pretty happy if our draft was close to your mock.
Wilkins and the rest of the DL guys are going to be impacted a lot by the combine and pro-day numbers like it's common with DL/EDGE. He could got top 15 or we may have the chance to get him. Would be another "boring" pick after nelson this year but probably will be smartest choice.
I really like Adderly as a player(i think he has late first potential) but the safety position has been flooded with good and skilled players. The S free-agency is most likely going to be most talented out of all the positions and the draft also will bring multiple good ones. The drop-off between adderley and a safety in the third(f.e. abram from miss. state) or a good free-agent( who will not be that expensive relative to other positions) makes me dislike picking a S top of the second.
I agrre with most of the other people hear that ya-sin is a bit early in the second.
Now Renfrow, i think, is a really nice scheme fit in our passing game. He has good reaction time during the snap of the ball. He does a little dip of the shoulder which surprisingly gets him off press cov. quite often( or forced some holds by cbs). He runs all of the short and intermediate routes well. He also understands how much fakes you should put in a route so that you don't make your QB wait a quarter second longer than it's needed( really not a fan of Thielen because he wastes so much time doing dumb fakes in his routes). And although he has tiny hands he catches everything especially on third-down.
That makes him a great fit in franks quick hit offense and with a qb like luck who does lots of 3rd down magic renfrow might be the white tiger for lucks siegfried&roy.
The pats who run a similar passing scheme are also sitting close behind us and i think they also have their eyes on him so 3rd round might be spot we have to get him.
Brailford had a nice senior bowl and might rise higher than that after combine or pro-day but if we get him he has that motor that i love in d-line guys.
The rest of the picks might go a round or 2 earlier but who the # knows where players go on day 3. It's total needle and hay at that point.
Nice post!
I also think that Renfrow is a scheme fit for us, and I too think the Patriots will have an eye on him as well. I think we can say the same thing about Isabella. However, I have a feeling Isabella is going to go in the second. If Isabella is there in the 3rd then wow, what a gift for us. I hope Ballard pulls the trigger if that situation presents itself.
A lot of my picks were made based off the Senior Bowl buzz... some players moved up, and some will continue to move up on my board.
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1 minute ago, stitches said:
I want to be brave and try to break the mold of comparing a small white dude to other small white dudes, who are much slower than him.
Andy Isabella to me looks MUCH more like Tyreek Hill than he does like Switzer or Edelman or Cooper Kupp... (obligatory - style-wise and traits-wise, I do NOT think he will be as good as Hill)
I agree completely with that statement. In fact on Day 1 of Senior Bowl practice, I compared Isabella to Tyreek Hill.
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34 minutes ago, Superman said:
I see some special speed in Isabella. If he tests like he says he will, he'll have something Chrebet didn't have.
But it's weird because there are certain plays where his speed seems ordinary. Seems to have a serious 6th gear to him.
I agree the Chrebet didn’t have the long speed that I think Isabella has. However the quickness, ability to separate, and just overall build is very similar. Chrebet is the best WR comp for Isabella to me.
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14 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
I think most people think Isabella is a pretty special player.
"I think" also makes it pretty clear that I was stating an opinion. Up further you are so sure of yours that you are betting some guy. I don't see a huge difference.
AndI am not sure what history is on your side. Edelman and Welker have been a thing in the NFL a long time. And plenty of team have tried to replicate their success...but none of them have used a Day Two pick to do it (let alone a 2nd round pick...which is where my main disagreement has always been). I guess you could make a weak argument that the LAR did when they drafted Kupp...but Kupp had elite production...best in college football.
Ryan Switzer is probably a better example. I think he was actually a better college and a bit more productive WR than Renfrow...and even he was a late 4th round pick. Add that to the other examples of similar types (that I already listed) that went late in the draft...and that is the history that I am using.
In a draft class full of trait WRs (most of whom who have far better college production)...I just don't think Renfrow has much chance to go that early (especially the 2nd round)...barring some crazy WR run. But fine...anything can happen.
I am not saying that Renfrow will go in the second round, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he did. I currently have him ranked #66 on my big board. You on the other hand, made absolute statements that he will not.
I think Renfrow is better than Switzer. I had Switzer ranked #113 and he went #133. Switzer was the 19th receiver taken in the 2017 draft. I have Renfrow ranked much higher as he is my 11th ranked receiver in this draft.
Comparing Kupp’s production to Refrow is not apples and oranges. Renfrow has played in an offensive with a lot of talented players that share the ball, and it's a far superior conference. I loved Kupp for his production, but that’s a trait a smaller school kid has to have to get draft recognition. Players from Big time schools in the ACC or SEC don’t need to have nearly the resume. That’s where the actual scouting of the player comes in.
This conversation has already wasted more of my time than I wanted. You have your opinion and I have mine so I am moving on.
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Just now, Superman said:
I don't see Cooper Kupp, though. Different profile, different traits. Isabella is definitely faster, Kupp got off press coverage better and is a more physical player and better blocker (for obvious reasons).
Isabella's speed, quickness and toughness are special, though.
My comp for Isabella is Wayne Chrebet.
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1 minute ago, chad72 said:
I think Andy Isabella is the second coming of Cooper Kupp, IMO.
I agree sir!
This helps me confirm what my eyes are seeing. Me, you, and Superman are all seeing the special traits this kid has.
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50 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:
Yeah Renfrow is a major reach. He doesn’t have 3rd round talent. He’s not the 2nd coming of Cooper Kupp. This is a classic case of over-valuing a limited player.
Cooper Kupp was also undervalued. Many had him as a late Day 3 pick and he went earlier than a lot of people thought. He went right about where I thought he would. I actually mocked him a couple of times to us last year in the 4th round because I thought he was great value there.
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22 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
Me saying he won't be picked that early and you saying he won't be there in the 4th round are kind of both absolutes, no?
If we are looking at recent history...I would have to say it's actually not on your side. There is no recent precedent for a WR like Renfrow being picked that early. A smaller slot WR without any elite aspects (who offers little in the vertical game and isn't a big play threat)...but can catch the ball. The last part is definitely important...and I think that gets him drafted...but more in the later round lower upside safe pick mold.
But that's my opinion.
First of all, I made it real clear that my thoughts were my opinion and not absolutes. I couldn’t have been any clearer about that.
On the other hand, these are your words:
”I think it is absolutely out of the question for him to go in the 2nd round. Probably 3rd round as well.”
The contexts in our posts are not even close.
And history is on my side. Look it up.
I have been doing mock drafts for 30 years and have developed a vast knowledge of the process. Draft season is a huge deal to me. I am not just throwing darts at a board to pick players. There is a lot of work that goes into my process. The 2019 draft season started for me before the 2018 draft ended.
So trust me when I say that almost anything can happen from now until the draft. And most likely when it does happen, then I’ve seen it before. The NFL is not about absolutes and only fools guarantee something will happen.
Hunter Renfrow could go anywhere from a late second to undrafted. However, he will most likely go late in round 3 or early in round 4. The Colts will have 2 late 4th round picks, so if they want him then they’d most likely have to take him with the late 3rd round pick or move some other picks around.
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5 hours ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
I'd be willing to bet you my only begotten soul that Renfrow doesn't go in rounds 2 or 3. There's only 3-4 that deserve to go in the first 2 rounds, imo. Renfrow is a watered down version of Isabella, and most mocks have him in the 5th or so.Â
Your opinion is on record.
Keep in mind that 8 receivers went in the first 2 rounds last year. In 2017 there were 14 receivers taken in the first 3 rounds.
So history is not on your side.
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4 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:
Maybe, I just don't see anything special about Renfrow at all.
And that’s fine. I have no issue with someone having their own opinion. I welcome that. It’s when people talk in absolutes about the draft... That’s when things get absurd. The idea of someone guaranteeing when a player will be chosen is ludicrous. There are way too many factors at play to know for sure.
Every year. Let me repeat that. EVERY YEAR, someone gets drafted in the first round that most draft pundits had mocked in the 3rd or later. And EVERY YEAR someone who was mocked in the first 2 days goes undrafted.
We can have ideas, opinions, educated guesses, and we can THINK we know, but we don’t. Not until the draft is final. If we hit on half the players we like then we are doing better than the best GMs who have ever worked a draft room.
Them’s the facts.
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First Round Mock - Colts Select Brian Burns
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This mock has the Colts selecting Brian Burns at #26.