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1 hour ago, Superman said:
I'm looking at him right now. If he tests well, you might be right.
Yeah. He has some real skills. I think he could make a mark in the NFL.
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5 hours ago, BProland85 said:
I love the Christian Wilkins pick, but in my opinion the rest of the picks are reaches.
We need to come out with a better WR than Rentfrow in the top 3 rounds.
I’d like to see your board. It’s amazing that you would call any of these picks reaches. I actually expected for most people to say that these players wouldn’t be there.
While this is all opinion based, it would be nice to see your board, to back your opinion up.
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1 hour ago, shastamasta said:
I think it is absolutely out of the question for him to go in the 2nd round. Probably 3rd round as well. This isn't Cooper Kupp or Keke Coutee we are talking about.
No team is drafting a small slot WR type with his mediocre college production that early....especially in this draft class.
Renfrow had two good games against Bama back when he was a freshman and sophomore. That's basically it. I think NFL scouts are going to ask to why his game (and production) never took another step as he got to his junior and college seasons.
Guys with similar comps like Braxton Berrios and Austin Proehl were 6th and 7th round picks last year...and that was in a weaker draft class at WR. And don't forget that Berrios was getting much of the same praise from Senior Bowl practices this time last year.
Renfrow will likely get drafted...but it is going to be a flyer type pick.
I will save the link to your post and remember to reply to it after the draft.
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4 minutes ago, Matthew Gilbert said:
I can see Isabella being taken in the 2nd round. However, I'd be pretty surprised if Renfrow came off the board before the 4th round. I think Renfrow is more Griff Whalen than Julian Edelman. I'm a Renfrow fan and hope for the best for him but I'm betting against him being a high pick in the draft. If he comes out and runs a 4.3 maybe I'll change my tune a bit but his frame is my biggest concern. Sure, Isabella is only ten pounds heavier but his frame is rock solid and he can fly.
You guys do realize that our 3rd round pick is almost a 4th this year, right?
We are not picking in the top of the draft anymore.
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32 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:
The 3rd is too high for Renfrow...
Our 4th round picks are approximately 128 and 135.
You think Hunter Renfrow will still be there at 128? Wanna bet?
Hell, at this point I think Isabella is going in the second round, and might be long gone by the time we pick at 89. That's why he is not in my mock.
Anything can happen, but I do not believe in absolute predictions with the NFL draft. For us draft geeks, it is an exercise of understanding future NFL players. A prospect currently ranked on the Colts board at 500 could be drafted by another team at 35 overall. There are 32 different boards that matter and it only takes one team to fall in love with a player.
A 3rd is NOT too high for Renfrow. Hell, it is not even out of the question for him to go in the second round.
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The Colts officially have 8 picks in the 2019 NFL draft. However, according to OverTheCap the Colts are projected to receive a 4th round compensatory pick for losing Donte Moncrief in 2018.
I think the Colts needs are EDGE, WR, CB, S, INT-DL, OL, and LB.
While the draft overall selections are not set in stone, if OverTheCap is correct on the comp picks then the Colts draft order should be relatively close to the following...
*Note - Remember that we also have to take out the Giants (3rd) and Washington (6th) forfeited picks they used in the 2018 supplemental draft.
1. 26
2. 34
2. 58
3. 89
4. 128
4. 135
5. 165
6. 200
7. 242Chris Ballard has not minced his words. He told us long ago that building a team is all about the offensive line and the front seven. I believe he will fortify the trenches early and often in every draft. This draft is front-loaded with EDGE and INT-DL prospects and value at those positions will certainly be there at #26.
With the Draft Bowl standouts freshly on our minds, I could envision the draft playing out something like this:
BlueShoe's 2019 Post Senior Bowl Colts Mock Draft
1. 26 - Christian Wilkins, INT-DL, Clemson
2. 34 - Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
2. 58 - Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
3. 89 - Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson
4. 128 - Jordan Brailford, EDGE, Oklahoma State
4. 135 - Lonnie Johnson, CB, Kentucky
5. 165 - Terrill Hanks, LB, New Mexico State
6. 200 - Chuma Edoga, OT, USC
7. 242 - Justin Hollins, LB, Oregon-
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This is my personal big board following the Senior Bowl.
1. Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State
2. Quinnen Williams, EDGE, Alabama
3. Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky
4. Ed Oliver, INT-DL, Houston
5. Devin White, LB, LSU
6. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
7. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama
8. Jeffery Simmons, INT-DL, Mississippi State
9. Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson
10. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia
11. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State
12. Christian Wilkins, INT-DL, Clemson
13. Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida
14. Rashan Gary, INT-DL, Michigan
15. Dexter Lawrence, INT-DL, Clemson
16. Cody Ford, INT-OL, Oklahoma
17. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss
18. Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State
19. Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
20. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
21. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama
22. Devin Bush, LB, Michigan
23. Drew Lock, QB, Missouri
24. Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
25. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
26. Daniel Jones, QB, Duke
27. Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
28. Dre'Mont Jones, INT-DL, Ohio State
29. T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa
30. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
31. Elgton Jenkins, INT-OL, Mississippi State
32. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
33. D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
34. Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
35. Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State
36. A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss
37. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
38. Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State
39. Jerry Tillery, INT-DL, Notre Dame
40. Garrett Bradbury, INT-OL, NC State
41. Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
42. Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
43. Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama
44. Isaiah Buggs, EDGE, Alabama
45. Zach Allen, EDGE, Boston College
46. Chris Lindstrom, INT-OL, Boston College
47. JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
48. Jaylon Ferguson, EDGE, Louisiana Tech
49. Charles Omenihu, EDGE, Texas
50. Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State
51. Andy Isabella, WR, UMass
52. Taylor Rapp, S, Washington
53. Michael Deiter, OT, Wisconsin
54. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson
55. Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion
56. Damien Harris, RB, Alabama
57. Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
58. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
59. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama
60. Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State
61. Beau Benzschawel, INT-OL, Wisconsin
62. Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
63. Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia
64. Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
65. Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
66. Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson
67. Chase Winovich, EDGE, Michigan
68. Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia
69. David Montgomery, RB, Iowa State
70. Will Grier, QB, West Virginia
71. Gerald Willis III, INT-DL, Miami
72. Michael Jackson, S, Miami
73. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida
74. Ryan Finley, QB, NC State
75. Jaquan Johnson, S, Miami
76. Kris Boyd, CB, Texas
77. Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
78. D'Andre Walker, LB, Georgia
79. Brett Rypien, QB, Boise State
80. Tre Lamar, LB, Clemson
81. Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn
82. Kaden Smith, TE, Stanford
83. Blace Brown, CB, Troy
84. Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri
85. Isaiah Prince, OT, Ohio State
86. Germaine Pratt, LB, NC State
87. Devin Singletary, RB, Florida Atlantic
88. Daniel Wise, INT-DL, Kansas
89. Joe Jackson, EDGE, Miami
90. David Sills V, WR, West Virginia
91. Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
92. Drue Tranquill, LB, Notre Dame
93. Renell Wren, INT-DL, Arizona State
94. Daylon Mack, INT-DL, Texas A&M
95. Anthony Nelson, EDGE, Iowa
96. Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis
97. Benny Snell Jr., RB, Kentucky
98. Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State
99. Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
100. Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo
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Just now, esmort said:
I seen that, but I thought you had it ordered kind of like they were tier 3, in which case I was suggesting I would put them in the "tier 1 winners".
They improved their stock. I added context to the players who improved the most on my board. Everyone listed stood out to me though.
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1 minute ago, esmort said:
I think Daniel Jones and Keelan Doss both should probably be in the winners category.
They are. In the other notable players.
You just quoted it dude.
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Andy Isabella, WR, UMass
Elite quickness. Needs to remove a few steps from his route, because he sometimes jukes defenders back into good position. There is something special about him. My internal sleeper alert is pinging as loud as possible. He is my favorite player from the Senior Bowl. When I get this feeling about a player, I am almost never wrong.
Deebo Samuel, WR, South CarolinaHe even made the good defensive backs look silly this week.
Nasir Adderley, S, DelawareSmall school kid with elite pedigree and great character. He is a converted corner which shows in his coverage skills.
Drew Lock, QB, MissouriWhen there is not a lot of great quarterback talent around a good quarterback then he shines. That is exactly what Lock did this week. I think Lock is going in the first round. He could go top 15.... Maybe even top 10.
Hunter Renfrow, WR, ClemsonAt Clemson they have a saying... Third and Renfrow. Remember how Cris Carter used to only catch touchdowns? Well Hunter catches 3rd down conversions like no one else in this draft class. He is a stud and he is going to fall in this draft class because he doesn't have super athletic ability and he is only 5'10 and 180 pounds. I'd take him in the 3rd round and be very happy about it.
Penny Hart, WR, Georgia StateFluid... Smooth... Small school kid who was a last minute add to the Senior Bowl, and man did he make the most of it! I want to see more, but this kid runs routes as smooth as I've seen from a draft prospect in a long while... I probably haven't seen any prospect run routes this smooth since Reggie Wayne was a prospect. I know that is high praise, but watch this kid run some routes and you will see what I am talking about.
Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio StateHe kept showing up and sticking out to me. He might not have the top end speed, but he has elite quickness which allows him to release off the line well.
Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas StatePeople were calling for Risner to be moved inside.... Those people were wrong! Risner is a right tackle! Let me rephrase that, Risner is a BOSS right tackle.
Rock Ya-Sin, CB, TempleHe kept showing up all week long. He get's a little grabby and that will need to be coached out of him at the next level, but there is a ton to work with here.
Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi StateI think he is a 4-3 defensive end. I don't think he is an elite pass rusher, but I believe he is a hell of a run defender.
Charles Omenihu, DL, TexasHe reminds me a lot of Denico Autry. The future of NFL 3-techniques seem to be this 6'5"-6'6" and 270-280'ish mold.
Chuma Edoga, OT, USCIn a draft that's not littered with offensive tackles, Edogo stood out at the Senior Bowl. He is another player who was rumored to be moved inside at the next level, but he showed his worth outside this week.
Lonnie Johnson, CB, KentuckyHe lit Terry McLaurin up in the game yesterday. I love his intensity and he stood out this week.
Tyree Jackson, QB, BuffaloHuge frame with a cannon of an arm. He is working with Jordan Palmer and the results are already showing. This is a sleeper to keep an eye on. Someone is probably going to take this kid on Day 3 and be real happy they did. The only thing I worry about is the track record with 6'7" quarterbacks. Quarterbacks need to make compact throws, and there is not much compact about his long frame.
Honorable mentions:
Garrett Bradbury, INT-OL, NC State
Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
Elgton Jenkins, INT-OL, Mississippi State
Chris Lindstrom, INT-OL, Boston CollegeDrue Tranquill, LB, Notre Dame
Other notable players:
Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn
Terrill Hanks, LB, New Mexico State
Donald Parham, TE, Stetson
Khalen Saunders, INT-DL, Western Illinois
Keelan Doss, WR, UC Davis
David Sills V, WR, West Virginia
Bruce Anderson, RB, North Dakota State
Ryan Finley, QB, NC State
Ryquell Armstead, RB, Temple
Daniel Jones, QB, Duke
Cameron Smith, LB, USC
Dax Raymond, TE, Utah State
Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
Isaiah Buggs, EDGE, Alabama
Renell Wren, INT-DL, Arizona State
Michael Deiter, OT, Wisconsin
Nate Davis, INT-OL, Charlotte
Ben Powers, INT-OL, Oklahoma
Beau Benzschawel, INT-OL, Wisconsin-
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6 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
The only mock draft I would pay any attention to would be a Chris Ballard mock.
And then I wouldn't trust his either.
That one made me laugh.
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2 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:
I’m taking the defensive lineman performances with a grain of salt. From what I’m hearing and seeing, it looks like the OL play is pretty bad this year. I was watching the Voch Lombardi breakdowns and he mentioned that most of them struggled with getting their hands on the inside of the defenders. Plus there was just a lot of bad technique. Guys lunging, crossing feet up, wide bases, bad footwork, etc... This is a poor OL class.
I think this is a decent class of interior offensive linemen, and there are some good right tackles. That said, I don’t think it’s a deep left tackle class.
On Day 2, I’d like to see us get an interior offensive lineman who can play both guard and center for depth. I think the value will be there.
It’s a shame we didn’t keep Austin Blythe. Not sure what we were thinking when we let him go. It felt wrong when it happened. Now he is one of the best interior lineman in the league and is heading to a Super Bowl.
Nevertheless, we will always have to spend early picks on the offensive line.
I like Voch, and think that overall his work is enjoyable, but he gets tunnel vision and quite often misses on the bigger picture.
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Write this name down folks!
Andy Isabella (5'10" 195) might be another Tyreek Hill in the making. Says he will run in the 4.2's at the combine.
This kids speed, footwork, and lateral movement skills are going to move him up some draft boards. He is certainly moving up on my board.
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4 minutes ago, Shive said:
One of the most underappreciated guys on our defense is Mathias Farley. If he was healthy this year, we would have had very solid Safety depth and I think would have improved the overall play of our defense. He's not a pro bowler or a game changer, but he's one of those dependable guys that will at the very least execute consistently and make a good play every now and then.
Excellent point.
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12 minutes ago, ztboiler said:
Not denying his effectiveness...but wonder how you objectively measure the coverage exposure of a deep safety.
Easy... He did not allow much success when the ball came his way.
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9 minutes ago, Smonroe said:
He was nicked up all year and still managed to play 14 games. If I’m not mistaken, that was more than any other safety on the team.
It’s a tough position to stay 100% all season.
Especially in this scheme. It was very hard to keep healthy safeties when Dungy was here too. We were often forced to play corners at safety. Remember Donald Strickland? I think playing him at safety so much ruined what would have been a stellar career at corner.
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20 minutes ago, CanuckColtsFan said:
Was he out for the Chiefs game? I saw Wilcox out there.
Yeah. It was huge blow to our secondary.
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We can credit the scheme for a small portion of this success, but this is just incredible....
Great work Malik!
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Players the stood out to me:
Wes Hills, RB, Slippery Rock - By far the player of the game.
John Santiago, RB, North Dakota - Reminds me of Danny Woodhead
In no particular order....
Brian Peavy, CB, Iowa State
Darius Williams, CB, Colorado State-Pueblo
Peyton Pelluer, LB, Washington State
Quincy Williams, LB, Murray State
Randy Ramsey, EDGE, Arkansas
Willie Wright, INT-OL, Tulsa
Aca'Cedric Ware, RB, USC
Marche Dennard, RB, Colorado State-Pueblo
Ashton Dulin, WR, Malone
Nate Brooks, CB, North Texas
Juwann Winfree, WR, Colorado
Emmanuel Butler, WR, Northern Arizona
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5 minutes ago, Superman said:
"Did you go to Miami? Come coach with me!"
Pretty much. I tell you what though. Pagano and Ed Reed have the American secondary playing great!
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Wes Hills is a BAD MAN!
I can't wait to see what he does against better competition next week in Mobile.
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Chuck Pagano and Ed Reed have the American team secondary playing great!
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After the first drive, I am really liking what I am seeing out of Peyton Pelluer.
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I really wish they wouldn't play the Shrine Game and NFLPA Bowl at the same time. Thank God for a DVR.
Even though the game has been going on for about an hour and a half... I am about to start the NFLPA Bowl and here are some names I will watch closely:
Calvin Anderson, OT, Texas
Damion Jeanpiere, WR, Nicholls
D’Andre Payne, CB, Iowa State
Darius Harris, LB, Middle Tennessee
E.J. Ejiya, LB, North Texas
Emmanuel Butler, WR, Northern Arizona
George Aston, FB, Pittsburgh
Hjalte Froholdt, INT-OL, Arkansas
Jalin Burrell, CB, New Mexico
Jamell Garcia-Williams, EDGE, UAB
John Battle, S, LSU
Jordan Kunaszyk, LB, California
Kahzin Daniels, EDGE, Charleston (WV)
Olabisi Johnson, WR, Colorado State
Patrick Eby, LS, Columbia
Trevon Brown, WR, East Carolina
Wes Hills, RB, Slippery Rock
BlueShoe's 2019 Post Senior Bowl Colts Mock Draft
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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Not really.
I currently have Renfrow as my 11th ranked receiver and I have 10 ranked in the top 2 rounds. And that is not out if the norm as last year 8 receivers were taken in the first 2 rounds and 33 receivers were taken overall.