husker61

no!!!

that seems to be what pure pocket passers go through when adjusting to the nfl.

you are correct, it’s a team game. o-line can make a qb and rb look good qb can make the line look good qb can make the wr look good d-line can make the lb look good d-line can make the cb look good cb can make the line look good i don’t think lb or rb have as much impact on other positions lineman, qb, and db are probably what good gm’s feel they need the most.

that may be what they want him to do, go through his reads. The big problem may be the terrible o-line. Would he look better with the colts line and 2 top backs? Who knows.

so did luck, both mannings, and other pure pocket passers. It takes them all a while to adjust to the n fl defenses.

running into pressure could be that he isn’t adept at running where as a qb that runs a lot is using his feet to avoid tacklers. One is used to throwing to about a rush, the other uses their feet to avoid the rush.

.yes! Saved me from typing all this.

tom Brady was a 7th round pick. Anyone remember a person named Johnny Unitas, 9th round then cut! Don’t get hung up on where a player was drafted.

Pocket presence is kind of judged differently depending on the qb or offense. Manning, Brady, aikman, etc was in the form of reading the players and making check downs. There has been a long list of qb’s in the last 10 years or so that will run instead of looking for the 2nd, 3rd option. If you don’t learn to go through those reads you won’t last long, it doesn’t matter how big, strong, and fast you are,it will catch up to you. A young qb that is a pocket passer is going through those reads and will probably get sacked or make a ruched throw and it will be worse with a bad line. Running if the first read isn’t there will make it seem like you have better pocket awareness, but is that a good thing if you don’t learn to make all the reads? I have seen qb’s that looked great at the beginning turn out not so good, and the opposite (a lot of hof ones). Time will tell!

Injuries seem to go up at all positions every year. The athletes are too big strong and fast. I have said this before. All sports have tried to take ped’s out of sports, but like everything else someone will find a way around the system. As far as qb’s, I think there has been less emphasis on protecting the qb, and that is your most valuable asset. Couple that with defenses prioritizing getting to the qb.

still avoiding the point I was making. You said your eye test is what is important, and I pointed out that you only used stats for this game to say he was bad, like you just did again. and then try to change the subject to me hating Richardson, that isn’t true. Nobody knows what kind of nfl qb he will be!

All game I was saying why is he moving around with little or no pressure. Maybe it is because the coaches have gotten on him about the strip sacks and he is thinking about that. But he did make some really good throws that helped the colts win the game. I know some don’t like giving him any credit, but you have to give him credit when he does good things. He made that one terrible throw when I thought he should have just kept running.

the Pitt game wasn’t the LAST game that I was talking about. You posted right after the game his passing stats and said he was bad. Nice try avoiding what I posted though.

i completely agree with you! So why would you say that Levi’s had an awful game and just post his stats from the last game?

that looks like the kind of short and sweet answer you give a player that was good in the past for your team, but may not be there long. Kind of a standard response in all sports when you are trying to be nice.

Tenn o-line is a mess right now, I don’t know if it will improve by then, hope it doesn’t!

the line was a mess with multiple backups, 21 pressures, 6 hits, 4 sacks, 5 dropped passes. The line wasn’t good for Henry ether, I think 2ypc. I think he has lucks mentality of throwing down field so he may never be a top % passer. You really aren’t trying to be fair like you said you are. like I continue to say, it’s not stats that give the true picture of how a player performed. https://www.si.com/nfl/titans/news/tennessee-titans-mike-vrabel-will-levis-offensive-line-concerns

Some have brought up luck’s completion %. That had a lot to do with him wanting to throw the deep ball a lot, probably because he had a great arm. Qb’s that throw shorter passes will always have a higher completion %. as I continue to say, stats can be very misleading!

very few people here are saying Richardson is going to be a bust. The small sample size does indicate he has a propensity to get hurt. Can that change, yes. Can it continue, yes. Nobody knows! That’s all people are saying, he is mostly an incomplete on what he will become as a nfl qb. That isn’t bashing!! I haven’t seen one post hoping he fails, that’s just in the some posters heads when attacking any thing negative regarding him. as to Levis, I saw the Steelers game and was completely impressed with everything he did. I didn’t see the first game, but everything I saw said he did very good. I didn’t see the last game, if it’s on nfl network I will watch it, if not it will be hard to comment on how he played. You seem to think a stat line tells the whole story, it doesn’t for me. Anyone that grades a player on some stat lines is meaningless to me. I have said this about other positions many times.

I have said for years going back to pat angerer and Garry brackett that most of their tackles were down field. I thought it was because they were undersized. That wasn’t a very popular stance here back then at all, angerer got cut and so did brackett after signing a big contract that I said the colts shouldn’t have done. Tackle stats are meaningless!!

or it could be he isn’t anticipating a receiver coming open and throwing before they break open. In college you can wait for the receiver to get open and throw it, that rarely works in the nfl. Backup qb’s are backups because they don’t have those skills, that’s what the colts have right now.

I don’t think he has any trade value with his contract, unless the colts can find a sucker.

He still looks awful. I’m tired of hearing about getting back into shape. If the injury is that bad, then you just have to admit he will never be the same. Having tight ends block you, getting juked by a power back, and constantly trailing the play isn’t what you want from any lb, let alone one that is payed a huge contract. i believe the owner is the one pushing for Leonard, Taylor, and past colts large contracts that didn’t work out. I wish he would stop thinking he is a co-gm and just be a fan!

yes! People don’t give enough credit to how much a top qb makes everyone look so much better and the opposite with a bad one.

The d-line getting tremendous pressure on the qb was the only real good thing I saw from the colts this game. I think the pats qb was worried about it the entire game and that is why the colts won. Offense wasn’t good or the rushing defense. Thankfully the pats didn’t just keep running the ball down the colts throat and into the end zone. I was relieved every time the pats went back to pass!