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18 minutes ago, EastStreet said:
If we look at last year and compare Lock and Herbert, Lock had a better PR, more yards, and a lot better QBR. And that was playing in the SEC vs tough Ds as opposed to the Pac...
I agree though, if he's enamored, might happen. I just think it's silly to throw away that 2018 pick. Why make it in the first place if you think you're going to go after Herbert. Elway has sheet the bed at QB decisions. The Manning decision was the only good call he's made.
He played Bama, LSU, and Auburn, once in 4 years. Was ok against Georgia and Florida. Look at his "big games".. E. Mich, Delaware State, Missouri State, Kentucky, Idaho, Connecticut, Arkansas, Wyoming, Purdue, Memphis, Tennessee, Oklahoma State.. world beaters on defense there..
Nice try at using one of my arguments against me, but a simple search would show you he wasn't good against the upper SEC teams.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-lock-1/gamelog/
I don't think the Lock pick is a throw away pick, yet. Who knows, he's still young and could develop into something that he can eventually get something out of either as a player or draft pick. I don't think its the fact he's going after Herbert, it's more that Herbert is likely to fall in his lap. There were rumblings that he liked Daniel Jones this year too.
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2 hours ago, BProland85 said:
What exactly is going on with these 2 highly drafted players? Campbell can't seem to stay on the field for more than half a game, and I haven't seen Lewis at all in this season.
Is Campbell seriously just made of glass? He didn't appear that way coming out of college.
Is Lewis just having issues practicing or learning the defense?
These guys were drafted with high picks and have too much talent to not be on the field.
Campbell, as others have said, is dealing with a case of bad luck..
As much as I like seeing my Buckeyes in the NFL, and playing with the Colts, in my opinion Tyquan was overdrafted and then pushed/molded to play a position he really didn't play much of in college. Tyquan wasn't overly athletic at the 250-260'ish lbs he played in college, playing DE. He then he comes to Indy and they want to add weight to him and shove him inside. It still boggles my mind why they did this. Drafting him to play predominantly out of his natural position was not worth taking him in the 2nd. I believe he'd still be decent, serviceable, fit behind Sheard, but the team isn't even doing that. I think his time is Indy is done and they are going to move on from him next year.
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4 hours ago, Matthew Gilbert said:
A Von Miller quote came out today saying he thinks Lock is going to be special. Miller gets to see him in practice everyday but I guess we won't know until we see it ourselves.
And that's fine, but Miller isn't turning in the draft cards when they are making their picks. Lock was a late second rounder for a reason last year, and I'm not so sure how far into the 3rd he goes if Denver doesn't take him. Again, all I'm aware of is Elway does like Herbert, and if he's there when it's Denver's call, I'd put a decent wager on Elway taking him.
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9 hours ago, EastStreet said:
IDK. They took a QB (Lock) in the 2nd that I though Elway liked. I think he's been injured.
Well it has been publicly stated that Elway has been enamored with Herbert, well before this year. I don't think drafting Lock last year will stop Elway from pulling the trigger on Herbert if he's there. Denver is already pretty solid as a team, but would you put that team in the hands of Lock or Herbert, if given the opportunity?
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2 hours ago, EastStreet said:
I think there's a decent chance Herbert drops close to the middle of round 1. If so, we could move up without mortgaging our future. These last 7 games could be very tough, so honestly not so sure we'll be drafting all that late.
I don't think he makes it past Denver..
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44 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:
Walterfootball has reports that NFL teams still consider Tua the #1 guy.
Big thing to remember is Tua has done it for multiple years and this is Burrow's only good season.
He'll still likely go in the first round, but I'm not 100% confident that he is the first QB off the board.
This will only be Tua's 2nd full year, just like Joe's. Actually Joe has played just as many games as Tua if you count his time at Ohio State. However, Tua's time in late 17' was extremely valuable in that Bama completely tailored the offense to him for 18' when Hurts was benched. Burrow didn't get that luxury last year as he had just transferred in from Ohio State and had to learn a whole new offense, which was horrific to begin with. LSU brings Joe Brady and his NFL experience in, this year, and Burrow is on pace to 1 up every passing statistic Tua had last year. The guy is 9 games in, just played Alabama, and still has a completion of ~80%.
So, I'm sure NFL teams are taking into account what Joe did last year and comparing it to this after being thrown in, and flourishing, within an NFL system. All the tools and physical traits of an NFL QB, and without the injuries. I'd be shocked if Burrow isn't first off the board to Cincy.
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8 hours ago, EastStreet said:
Some PAC teams are chumps, but so are most SEC East teams.
The SEC East would likely go undefeated against the Pac-12 North. The Pac-12 is that much worse. He's stat padding against those teams..
8 hours ago, EastStreet said:It's the only like for like comparison out there, FL had the clear advantage (home), and Herbert performed better.
I could really care less about the comparison. I wasn't comparing the 2 to begin with. Again, one is a future top-10 pick and the other is likely a day2/3 pick (right now). If Trask stays in, he should get better and be a possible 1st rounder next year with Lawrence.
8 hours ago, EastStreet said:I just see more natural talent around Herbert.
He's a 4 year starter, I would hope so...
8 hours ago, EastStreet said:Trask also has a killer D to rely on, and Herbert is pretty much relied on to win most games.
Against borderline mid-major programs...
8 hours ago, EastStreet said:If I'm taking a day 2 guy, it would be Jordan Love over Trask too. I know he's having a bad year, but look at the change in both supporting talent, and coaching that he's dealing with.
Not a chance I EVER take a MWC QB, regardless of the circumstances, over a producing SEC QB.
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1 hour ago, EastStreet said:
Give me Herbert all day every day before Trask.
I'm sure most won't dispute that, but to be honest, I'm not overly impressed. A 4 year starter who really hasn't improved that much. He's fluffing his stats against a bunch of Pac-12 cupcakes. I wouldn't mortgage a bunch of picks to move up to get him, but that's just me. Trask is a day two pick, maybe early day 3, as of right now due to experience.
1 hour ago, EastStreet said:Herbert has a higher PR, higher completion %, more yards, more TDs, less INTs, almost the same avg YPP and QBR.
He's also thrown 82 more passes... You do the math and he's pretty much aligned right with Herbert for stats (completion % would be a little lower probably and more INT's obviously) if the attempts were the same all while playing Auburn, Georgia, and LSU. Huge difference in SOS.
1 hour ago, EastStreet said:Not saying Trask is bad. He's good IMO. Looking at common games (Auburn), Trask's QBR was much worse at home in FL, than Herberts was against the same team on the road.
1st year starter, against a 4 year starter, playing in the SEC? I like what I see. Also, the Oregon/Auburn game was in Arlington, so let's not act like Oregon had to travel all the way to Alabama
Oregon traveled well to that game.
Herbert will probably go in the top-10. He won't make it past Denver as Elway loves the kid and I don't see Ballard giving up the draft capital to get there. I also don't believe Ballard see's the QB spot in that bad of shape to pull the trigger on something like that either. Trask is just someone I've kept an eye on, who really hasn't been talked about, that if he does come out would be worth spending a late day 2 or early day 3 pick on. The talent is there for Reich to work with, and it won't stop Ballard from getting the blue-chippers early on.
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6 hours ago, stitches said:
He's looking sensational! Wish we had a chance to take him.
I still think Kyle Trask from Florida could be a sleeper if he declares. He's built almost identical to Luck(6'5 240). Not saying he would be as good as Burrow in LSU's offense, but I think he would be better with LSU's offense and playmakers rather than Florida's and he's doing well with what he has there.
I'd feel a lot better with him as opposed to Eason or Love. He's played much better competition than those 2 and produced.
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3 minutes ago, stitches said:
Burrow is going no. 1 isn't he?
Of course he is..
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1 hour ago, twfish said:
I will highly highly disagree with you. Who do we have to throw to right now with T.Y out? Campbell has yet to show anything because of injury and Funchess is unknown.
Ok where are we at with your question? Now or the future? Injuries, especially non-serious, right now are pretty much irrelevant to the draft next year. However, TY, Campbell, Cain (fully recovered) should be fine next year. I'm sure we'll have at least 2 of the 3 TE's we have on the roster right now next year. Then there is Pascal, who is playing as good as anyone right now, and also the possibility of Fountain being back as well. You are looking at the wrong position. As much as I've been on the Jacoby train, he's severely limited a lot of the guys' touches. The playmakers are here, but it's gonna have to be on Reich to get Jacoby to get the ball to them. Bringing in another guy, let alone spending a first on a WR, isn't going to change that.
If Ballard takes a WR in the first, I'll be shocked.
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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
After what he did to the Steelers I don't want him here.
He is not a team player and we don't need any player with that
He didn't do anything to the Steelers. He honored his first tag and asked to be paid or let go when they were talking about a second tag. He called their bluff and rightfully sat out. I'd have no problems with any Colts player doing the same. Pay him or let him go.
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2 minutes ago, stitches said:
Here's the second edition of the PFF Mock Draft:
https://www.pff.com/news/pff-2020-nfl-mock-draft-joe-burrow-tua-tagovailoa
And here's the podcast where they are discussing the mock:
Absolutely NO WAY Elway lets Herbert get away from him...
/PUKE is the best way to describe my thoughts of taking a WR in the first... The skill positions are the least of the Colts worries and I just don't see that being a Ballard'esque move.
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5 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:
English....... do you speak it?
Just a very, very, limited vocabulary..
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16 hours ago, csmopar said:
And while I’m not huge on Cain, let’s not forget that it took Reggie Wayne 3 full seasons before he broke out and turned into the Reggie Wayne we will remember him for. Not saying CAIN will ever be even close to that, but sometimes WRs need a little bit for the game to slow for them.
Amazing how people are unaware, or forgot, what his first 3 seasons were like. I remember Polian bringing in Qadry Ismail in 02' because Reggie was coming along slowly.
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It's not the players... it's waiting 3 quarters to finally keep a LB up near the LOS and have them watch the RB out of the backfield. I would throw that pass everytime too when the back 7 is 20 yards down field. It shouldn't have taken 3 quarters to make that adjustment.
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I'll give the other team credit... that front 7 is good, especially that Watt guy on the other side.
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Hahah.. unbelievable..
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Somebody needs to throw a brick at Fouts
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Holy % this is bad
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Where is the PI?
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Just now, chad72 said:
Throwing to the slowest player, why aren’t they throwing to Ebron or Hines?
Yep
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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:
How about that paint
I think he just inhaled it..
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Oregon traveled well to that game.
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Honest question, why is Herbert a top 10-15 pick compared to Lock being a fringe 2nd rounder?