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19 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
Would we really keep 6 WR on the roster. I just don’t see enough balls to go around. Especially with Doyle and Ebron. Pascal is still competing also.
6 is pretty standard. we had 6 last year on the roster plus two on the practice squad (pretty sure we rotated another too). i'm sure it fluctuates, and likely depends on injury too.
We averaged 2.6 or 2.7 WRs on the field during standard O snaps last year, so were typically in 3 WR sets more than half the time. If that's the case, you really want each position (X, Z, slot) to have a backup. Several WRs flexed to slot, so you really don't have too have a two deep for all three, but you also need to account for PR and KR out of that bunch too.
From a pure numbers perspective (11 on O, 11 on D, plus K, P, LS) we have 25 starters. With a 53 man roster, every starter could theoretically have a backup with 3 extra to float. If you have 2.7 WR on average "starting", so that's a need of 5.4 on average.
here's a high level "anatomy of an nfl roster" article if interested. it list WR at 6 as well.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1640782-the-anatomy-of-a-53-man-roster-in-the-nfl
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12 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
There is no room for Inman. I would be shocked if he was brought back.
wouldn't count him totally out though. we could easily have TY, Funchess, Cain, Parris, Rogers, and Inman, and still keep 2 or 3 on the practice squad. we had 2 or three WRs last year i think. I can see them keeping fountain there for another year if he's improving, but not yet ready for prime time.
IIRC, you can have 10 practice squad players who have not been in the league for more than 2 years. there's some type of exception you can use for up to 4 players to get past the 2 year limit.
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https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2018-edition/
yup, take out vinny and we're closer to the top
not sure about the whole fast thing though
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5 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said:
The clausen one is a classic
yup. wish he would have kept his promise lol.
love the scuffle with Tobin as well. trev alberts was a bust due to injury, but i'm happy we didn't take dilfer. dilfer was totally meh, and was happy to have a few years with captain comeback and then draft peyton
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32 minutes ago, CR91 said:
I saw this too and got me hyped. I still can't understand why Urbs didn't give him more deep shots. I know they had other speed options, but this kid has serious wheels.
20 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:That was a great article. He is going to take so much pressure off of TY. Not to mention all the other targets we have. If everyone stays healthy I don’t know how anyone can cover us.
Having a guy with this speed, and this type of YAC ability was our biggest need for the O IMO. I have to believe we won't limit his route tree like OSU, and let him stretch the field occasionally. If we do, our opponents will have to respect 100% of the field unlike last year. TY getting doubled won't happen near as much, if at all with Parris blazing around. If Cain comes back healthy, we could be top 3 passing. If Ebron continues, and Funchess works out, we could fight for #1
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26 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
You are quick to dispute anyone who may have a different point of view or a different opinion but don't let anyone dispute you. You then go into this defensive mode and start twisting things to suit you.
Carry on with being full of yourself. I find it laughable.
Happy to make you smile. Feel free to ignore me.
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RB Marquis Young (UDFA) - UMASS
6-1 / 210 / 4.49
FR 152-960-6.3-7
SO 198-898-4.5-4
Production:
JR 182-982-5.4-9 (plus 35-280-8.0-2 receiving)
SR 154-778-5.1-9 (plus 22-173-7.9-0 receiving)
Summary Description:
His 40 conflicts with the critique below. UMASS is a bad team, and often playing from behind, so they just don't run a lot. Assuming this guy is perhaps a STs add if anything, but not a lot of info on him out there.
QuoteDraft Analyst's Summary
Pros:
Tough interior running back who effectively catches passes out of the backfield. Patient, waits for blocks to develop and displays solid quickness in a short area with the ability to cut back into the openings. Keeps his feet moving, consistently runs north/south and gets through small openings in the offensive line. Rarely brought down by the first defender and shows the ability to pick up yardage off initial contact. Displays outstanding vision, follows blocks everywhere and produces as a receiver.
Neg:
Displays limited speed and agility and struggles to turn the perimeter. Won’t beat defenders into the open field.
Analysis:
Young was productive at the college level and nicely projects as a third-down back or situational player at the next level, but he must stand out on special teams this summer.
RB Aeris Williams (TRYOUT) - Miss St
6-1 / 215 / 4.6
Production:
FR 40-206-5.2-3
SO 137-720-5.3-4
JR 236-1107-4.7-6 (plus 16-142-8.9-0 receiving)
SR 85-524-6.2-3 (plus 9-100-11.1-1 receiving) - injury?
Summary Description:
Not a natural player, and has accountability issues... SEC caliber player, and has measurables, but likely a low ceiling. STs maybe?
QuoteNFL.com's Overview
Developmental running back prospect with ideal physical traits but a fundamental lack of instincts to help him play his fastest brand of football. Williams should be more effective as a pro-style zone-scheme runner, but he looks more practice-squad caliber than roster worthy at this point. However, his ability to cover kicks and help on third down gives him an outside shot at finding a RB3/RB4 spot.
Strengths
Height-weight-speed traits
Some experience in pro-style, single-back formations
Instant acceleration can create explosive runs when the path is clear
Enough speed to challenge the perimeter as outside runner
Linear runner with ability to stick and step around tacklers at full speed
Has frame to steady through contact in the hole
Body lean and size to challenge and finish
Has third-down ability as leak-out pass catcher with adequate blocking potential
Weaknesses
Lowest rush output since freshman season due partly to "accountability issues"
Better physical traits than play traits
Slow to process blocks and find lanes between the tackles
Hesitant and disjointed from offset, shotgun positioning
Unable to improvise effective pathways when early rush path gets cluttered
Sluggish to string moves together
Ineffective setting up open-field tacklers to miss
Tripped up by balance issues that are generally self-created
RB Lexington Thomas (TRYOUT) - UNLV
5-9 / 170lbs / 4.42
Production:
FR 81-506-6.2-3
SO 124-642-5.2-8
JR 211-1336-6.3-17 (plus 8-143-17.9-0 receiving)
SR 215-1067-5.0-12 (plus 19-165-8.7-1 receiving)
Summary Description:
Change of pace guy with high production. Too small to be anything but a Hines type guy, or convert to a Slot type roll. Return guy?
QuoteNFL.com's Overview
Undersized lead back whose running style combines heart, athleticism and vision. His vision, tempo and speed are perfect fits for UNLV's off-set stretch plays as he can access the corner or find cutback lanes at a moment's notice. Thomas doesn't have the pass-catching production or the ability to pick up blitzers that most teams want from third down backs and he's a change-of-pace only prospect due to his lack of size. He's fun to watch and has the talent to compete for a spot in camp despite a lack of desired size.
Strengths
Rhythmic runner who glides on the grass
Runs with a sense of calm in navigating the maze
Plus field vision to choose and alter paths
Has good timing to cut it back on zone runs
Lateral jump cuts are sudden
Rare leg strength and contact balance for diminutive back
Slips and slides out of tackles all over field
Above-average ball security
His 4.42-second 40-yard dash at his pro day shows up with pull-away speed
Weaknesses
Thin frame will limit how teams can use him
Wear and tear as inside runner will be a concern
Needs to pick up play speed and burst urgency as pro
Shows tendency to anticipate contact inside
Slows feet and drops eyes/head when heading into congestion
Offers zero blocking ability to protect quarterback
TE Hale Hentges (UDFA) - Bama
6-5 / 254 / 5.03
Production:
JR 7-75-10.7-3
SR 4-34-8.5-3
Summary Description:
Big slow TE that blocks well. Sat behind Irv Smith. Used primarily in the running game.
QuoteDraft Analyst's Summary
Pros:
Polished tight end with limited speed and athleticism. Displays outstanding vision as a blocker, fires off the snap and shows explosiveness at the point. Blocks with proper pad level, bends his knees and works his hands throughout the action. Always looks for someone to hit. Solid intermediate pass catcher who uses his frame to shield away defenders and makes the reception with his hands.
Neg:
Rarely involved in the passing game. Limited quickness and speed.
Analysis:
Hentges is a high-effort player rather than an athletic playmaker, but he could make a roster as third tight end if he stands out on special teams.
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9 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Yes u can but those usually go high in the draft. I wanted Savage but he went early. All the other safeties had warts.
There were a few that I thought were good wartless kids :-)
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17 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
- You started the thread. That pretty much speaks for itself.
You never said a thing about more to come or if you agreed with them at all.
Then when I question it you accuse me of trolling. Dude, are you serious?
so starting an informational thread and not commenting, speaks for itself. got it...
and why do i need to tell anyone what i plan to do later.
troll-on
PS... I plan to watch GoTs tonight, might have a couple glasses of wine with the girl, do a little laundry, etc.. That OK?
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2 hours ago, Luck 4 president said:
Did I say we had a bad draft? I just don’t like Kiper at all. The guy takes bribes from agents to talk up their players and put them high on his draft board.
I'm in the same place. There's so many things not to like about Kiper. The multiples reports of his taking bribes and greasing pockets, his huge wiffs, his broken promises, his feuds, his mocks suck, etc...
Speaking of his whiffs, check this out. It's LOL worthy. Wish he would have kept his promise about Clausen.
https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/mel-kipers-top-10-nfl-draft-blunders.html
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1 minute ago, throwing BBZ said:
Rogers is more likely throw in trade capital. JMO
IDK. We tendered him as a 2nd so he'll make 3.1M IIRC. If we had designs on trading him, I think we would have tendered him lower instead of setting the value high (for an UDFA). Now getting PC may have changed that though. I just don't see us getting rid of our starting slot and returner. He had a career year, and had the best separation stats on the team. While he may not be a T1 stud, he was plenty reliable and is somewhat cheap and knows are system.
If anyone came after him, that's another story, but don't see that happening. I'd happily part with him for the right trade though.
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5 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:
With reading up on them with the interviews with Ballard, Reich, and the scouts I picked up on a trend on their traits....they're all smart, athletic, fast, and have long arms... definitely going the Seattle D route it seems.
Good article on Indy Star with the scouts and that's what they said about all those players.....one comment that struck me with the scout who did Khari Willis....he said slow safeties will get you beat sometimes and dumb safeties will get you beat all the time.
Colts are in good hands for sure.
so you're saying we couldn't find any smart and fast Ss?
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2 hours ago, Peterk2011 said:
After the Campbell pick, Inman won't come back. The roster is already at 90, and Ballard still wants to add 1 or 2 RB-s, so 1-2 guys will have to go already. And if Cain is recovering well, there's no point to bring him back.
From a pure numbers perspective, maybe, but from a position standpoint, Campbell isn't likely an impact to Inman. Campbell played slot/hb at OSU, and many projected him at Z. I do think think he could play at X (Inman's typical position), but doing so would require some crazy fast development. I'd say that Cain's recovery has a lot of impact on Inman though. We already let Grant expire at X and signed Funchess (he could play a lot of big/bully slot though), so there's that impact too.
QuoteSo, barring injury or a sudden fall-off, Hilton, Campbell, Funches, Cain and Rogers are probably all locks. Yes, Rogers too.
I think Rogers is a lock too, but he may be the most impacted by Parris out of the gate. Both Pascal and Inman played plenty of slot last year too. So Inman's departure does open up snaps. Rogers had a pretty darn decent year last year in terms of improvement with Luck back. I could see his snaps decreasing with Funchess and Campbell, but I doubt he'd be let go.
QuoteI know some ppl do not like Chester. He had some rough games last year yes. But he is the punt returner, which is an important role. There's no such thing as "KR/PR" any more, kick returns are joke, however punt returns are key to spec. team. A good punt returner requires good vision, sure hands and very good decision making in traffic. Rogers has all these traits, and he's proven it. It's a reason why he got a 2nd round RFA offer (3 mills guaranteed!) from Ballard. Teams keep guys on rosters exclusively for returning punts. If that guy can catch 60 ball for 450-500 yards, as Rogers can, that's a huge plus.
3 of the UDFAs have a lot of return experience/production, one is especially interesting, not to mention fast.
QuotePascal, Johnson, Fountain and the others can battle for the 6th spot. If Ballard will bring 6. (Not sure if he will or not. There's quality depth all around the offense, so whether it'll be OL, TE, RB or WR where he'll decide to keep one less, he'll probably have to let a valuable young guy go. Tough decisions coming in august.)
I think the locks are TY, Campbell, Cain, Funchess, and Rogers. We bounced several to the practice squad last year and kept them, so I can see us dong the same this year. I think they'll give Fountain another year as they knew he was long term developmental guy coming in. He's been played up as working hard in the off season trying to improve. Pascal showed flashes as well so I think he'll likely be back. Not sure about the rest.
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16 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
Were you going to provide the grades from any other sources for comparison?
Why just CBS?CBS was the first to publish grades with individual pick grades. I don't have ESPN+ so don't have theirs. NLF.com's and PFF has done a team grade/summary, but not an individual player/pick grades yet. But yes, if/when they come out with the individual grades, I had planned to post as well.
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1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:
Jeez, you started the thread using CBS grading. Duh?
providing info does not imply agreement. you'd really benefit from a class in critical thinking or basic logic.
it's discussion board.. people post tweets, links, etc. all the time for discussion purposes.
I guess you assume that every time someone post a tweet, or any news, they agree with it?
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5 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
Now who is trying to be argumentative?
When you used them as an example you are attempting to make a point.
Like I said, it's that simple. No argument.
specifically how did i use them as an example? does simply posting pure data on our draft grades imply agreement or that i'm using them as an example? keep on trolling...
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Providing info on all 3 categories. More on our drafted rookie, a little less on the UDFA pickups, and the basics on what I can find on the camp invites. Posting the WRs first, and will add RB and TE a little later. I'll also add some film/vids later as well.
Thought it would be good to capture it all while I was reading myself, and post for the lazy :-)
Current list - thank you @austriancolt
WR Parrish Campbell (Rookie 2R59)
WR Penny Hart (UDFA)
WR/Return Asthon Dulin (UDFA)
WR Justin McCinnis (TRYOUT)
WR Ryheem Malone (TRYOUT)
RB Maquise Young (UDFA)
RB Aeris Williams (TRYOUT)
RB Lexington Thomas (TRYOUT)
TE Hale Hentges (UDFA)
WR Parrish Campbell (Rookie 2R59) - Ohio State
NFL.com's grade - 6.11 (should become instant starter)
6-0 / 205lbs / 4.31 40YD / 40in Vert / 135 BJ
Strengths: Speed, YAC
Weakness and questions: limited route tree, hands, how he translates coming from a gadget guy at OSU
Production:
SO RCV 12-13-121-9.3-0 (games-catch-yards-avg-TDs) / RUSH 4-54-13.5-1
JR RCV 13-40-584-14.6-3 / RUSH 10-132-13.2-1
SR RCV 14-90-1063-11.8-12 / RUSH 9-24-2.7-0
Use (in college):
Played their slot/HB position. Most that follow OSU know that their WRs are a bit hard to grade. A lot of experts have commented that he was misused or that his use was limited too much.. Used as a gadget guy SO and JR years. Still a gadget guy his SR year but they upped his targets and opened up his route tree a tad bit. The majority of his targets were short, but did get a few long opportunities his SR year. Had very good YAC.
Projection:
Since many thought he was misused and limited in the slot role, several have suggested he play more outside with his 4.31 speed. TDN sees him as a primary Z (TY's position), that can would play a fair amount in the slot too. Others have suggested he could play a speed X with time in the slot also. Since he played off the line primarily at OSU, X might be a development type position until he learns to beat the press and get off the line.
Summary/Prediction:
Great prospect with high ceiling, but will require development to become more well rounded. He could be used at almost any WR position long term and provides a lot of flexibility. When TY starts to slow, Parris could eventually take over the Z, which would allow TY to move inside to slot and extend his career/productivity. Early options are slot (likely competing with Rogers and Funchess), TY's backup and apprentice, and/or limited speed X for deep routes. Personally I think a lot will hinge on how Cain recovers and how Funchess pans out. However you look at it, this adds a legit WR2 option out of the gate even if limited, will help keep TY out of double coverage, enable more deep balls, and provide another level of competition in the WR room. Has Pro-Bowl ceiling and low bust potential (excluding injury), and at minimum will be a 600+ yard WR with limited route tree by year 2.
3 decent reviews of Parris: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/parris-campbell
QuoteNFL.com's Overview
Blue-chip athlete with elite package of size, speed and fluidity as a big slot receiver. Campbell's athletic attributes could create a coverage conundrum if his offensive coordinator puts him in a diversified role that allows him to attack vertically more often. Teams know he's a gifted athlete, but he needs to add more polish as a route-runner to become a well-rounded target instead of a gadget slot. His upside is bolstered by his traits while his special teams ability and talent with the ball in his hands should level out any bust concerns.
Strengths
Track speed to scare safeties and corners
Expected to crush combine in all testing
Extremely explosive but still fluid
Early cushions of respect offer easy catches underneath
Light feet dart around defenders looking to impede
Generates separation on all three levels
Lived on Jugs machine last summer and improved hands
Comfortable plucking throws in stride
Size to break initial tackle after catch
Quick gather and leap to rescue overthrows
High-end potential with ball in his hands
Acceleration to split tacklers with speed to defeat angles and house it
Can get after it as slot blocker
Capable kick returner with above-average cover talent on punts and kicks
Weaknesses
Handcuffed to a more limited role in college
Jet sweep and catch-and-run specialist with much to learn still
Limited experience with the route tree and downfield looks
Appears to be step-counter on intermediate patterns
Flat, rounded routes lack quality fakes at the top
Doesn't change route tempo very often
Tons of zone looks made life easy for him in space
Catch focus will need continued work
Sources Tell Us
"Urban (Meyer) has a system and it works, but it makes it harder to evaluate his receivers. Mike Thomas was just okay in their offense and then he gets to the pros and he's great. Campbell is kind of raw, but that same thing could happen with him." -- Personnel executive for AFC teamWR/Return Penny Hart (UDFA) - Georgia State (Sun Belt)
NFL.com's grade - 5.32 (NFL BACKUP OR SPECIAL TEAMS POTENTIAL)
5-8 / 180lbs / 4.55 and 4.63 40YD
Production:
FR RCV 13-72-1109-15.4-8
SO RCV 2-8-61-76-1 (assuming injury)
JR RCV 12-74-1121-15.1-8
SR RCV 12-49-669-13.7-2 (as below, GSU had a very bad QB in 2018 compared to prior)
Summary/Prediction:
Small at 5-8, and quicker than fast. Took a step back in 2018 from a terrific 2017 season due to bad QB play, but excelled when he had a good one. Could get a look at return specialist and as slot depth.
QuoteNFL.com's Overview:
Smallish slot receiver who pairs good play speed with above-average quickness out of his breaks. Tape showed his lack of senior production was mostly due to inaccurate throws and that notion was backed up by strong practices during Senior Bowl week. Hart's size and limited catch radius will require an accurate passer, but his speed and suddenness paired with his return value could make him a Day 3 draft selection.
Strengths
Big early acceleration off the snap
Opens early window for quarterback on speed outs and crossing routes
Glides with steady stream of turnover in quick feet
Consistently gains space from route bends and breaks
Stair-steps coverage off of him
Unafraid to work into traffic
Ladder climber with a big vertical
Has catch-and-go juice with wiggle in open field
Offers kick- and punt-return value
Escape artist quality in tight quarters
Looked like he belonged at Senior Bowl.
Weaknesses
Smaller than the average slots in the league
Needs to allow routes to breathe rather than rush them
Doesn't leverage off defenders as well as he could
Would benefit from varying route speed
Occasionally bullied near the line by bigger defenders
Waits on throws rather than working back
Small catch radius requires accurate passer
Lack of size shows up when playing deep ball
WR/Return Asthon Dulin (UDFA) - Malone College
NFL.com's grade - 4.99 (SHOULD BE IN AN NFL TRAINING CAMP)
6-1 / 215lbs / 4.43 40YD / 38in Vert / 121 BJ
Production:
FR RCV 10-19-329-17.3-3 (rushed for 106yrds and 1 TD as well)
SO RCV 9-50-825-16.5-4
JR RCV 10-59-1050-17.8-10 (rushed for 137yrds and 1 TD)
SR RCV 10-61-984-16.1-11 (rushed for 120yrds and 1 TD)
*As a KR he had 836 years, a 29.9 avg, and had 3 TDs his SR year
Summary/Prediction:
Good sized and very fast developmental project. Diamond in a pile of coal at Malone. Needs work on fundamentals and route tree. Could see time early as KR if his hands are reliable.
QuoteNFL.com's Overview
Highly decorated developmental size/speed receiver from an unsuccessful program on the DII level. Dulin was a beacon of light for the Pioneers racking up 26 total touchdowns over the last two years as a pass catcher, ball carrier and kick returner. The jump in competition is substantial and may be too much to overcome and his route work is very basic right now. However, his size, speed and ball skills give him a chance while his kick return value could make him a day three selection worthy of stashing and developing.
Strengths
Combines NFL size and speed outside
Track man with verified 4.47 in the spring
Dominated his level of competition averaging 98 yards per game over three years
Moved and used all over the field to get him him the ball
Suddenness in press release with ability to go either way
Smooth and athletic in mid-air
Well-timed, explosive leaps to overlook defenders at high-point
Above-average talent in open field with ball in his hands
Averaged 29.9 yards per kick return with three touchdowns in 2018
Weaknesses
Integral part of a program that won just four times in four years
Wasn't challenged by NFL-caliber talent across from him
Good speed looked great against his competition
Multi-stepper into breaks
Needs to get better at dropping his tail and playing lower at break-point
Routes are rounded and inconsistent
Can play with greater acceleration out of cuts and turns
WR Justin McCinnis (TRYOUT) - Arkansas State Red Wolves
6-6 / 206lbs / 4.63 40YD
Production:
SO RCV 10-83-8.3-1
JR RCV 49-800-16.3-4
SR RCV 63-748-12.3-5
Summary/Prediction:
Big possession guy with good hands who lacks speed and quickness. Uphill battle unless he can improve speed. RZ threat maybe if he can clean up some things. Basically a TE-lite with low ceiling.
QuoteDraft Analyst's Summary
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Nice-sized possession receiver who plays strong football. Displays focus and concentration and consistently makes the difficult catch in a crowd. Extends and exposes himself to the big hit, uses the sidelines well and makes the over-the-shoulder reception in stride. Contorts and comes away with the difficult catch, looks the pass into his hands and takes a pounding and holds onto the ball.
Neg:
Displays little quickness, runs poor routes and plays to one speed. Lazily comes off the line on occasion.
Analysis:
McGinnis has the size and ability to be a fifth wideout who can be used on third downs and in the red zone at the next level. He must polish his game but is a prototypical possession receiver with nice upside.
WR Ryheem Malone (TRYOUT) - Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns (Sun Belt)
5-9 / 187 / 4.53 40YD
Production:
SO RCV 23-258-11.2-2
JR RCV 44-676-15.4-4
SR RCV 44-525-11.9-4
Summary/Prediction
Quicker than fast who struggle with contested catches, but has decent YAC capability. I'd expect a guy from a small school like this to have more production. Might be looked at as a return specialist.
QuoteDraft Analyst's Summary
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Quick, explosive receiver who’s dangerous in space. Comes back to the ball, extends his hands and offers the quarterback a target. Lays out and extends for passes and works to come away with the difficult reception. Swift, agile and shows the ability to create yardage after the catch. Easily adjusts to the errant throw.
Neg:
Loses out in battles and does not come away with the difficult reception. More quick than fast and lacks great burst.
Analysis:
Malone is a shifty skill player who can be used as a receiver and return specialist and run reverses on occasion. He lacks great upside, but his playmaking ability and route-running skill could help him find a roster spot.
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6 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
No argument at all.
Like I said. I used them and you discredited them.
And then you posted them yourself to make a point?
It's that simple.
And as i said, I'm not posting them to make a point. Just posting their grades (and others). Since I made no point or commented on their grades (except some replies to others), and you jumped in..., pretty sure you're doing your typical poke in an attempt to create drama. It's that simple. Low energy, low contribution... I don't expect anything else from you.
BTW, There's bad analysis (and good) from all the mainstream sites. CBS has some good, and bad "experts" just like ESPN, NFL.com, Fox, and NBC. CBS is not great overall, but they are better than NBC. Depends on the author.
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Just now, MarquisJ said:
Man that WR room is going to be interesting no way we keep more than six I’d assume the final roster we’ll see
Ty
Funch
Parris
Zach
Cain
Rodgers/Johnson whoever wants it more but i’ll give the upper hand to Chester.
I think Rodgers is close to a lock.
I also believe we might keep more, and there's always the practice squad and futures.
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thanks for the list @austriancolt
7 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:Surprised we don't have a camp leg on the roster. We usually have one so Vinny doesn't have to do too much kicking in the preseason.
i noticed that too. i'd bet there will be more to come though
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2 hours ago, krunk said:
It seems the Colts care more about the SS in this D being a great tackler and being good in coverage, but not necessarily a big int guy. If thats true then the pick makes some sense.
yup. and in that sense i'm warming up to the guy. i guess it was either him later, or abram early. i still like some of the guys that were still available whom i thought were more well rounded, but he's a better scheme fit (we'll) see, then I'm good. and i really didn't think abram (who i thought was also limited) was worth a first.
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23 minutes ago, DougDew said:
I don't see where Suh would be a locker room issue. He really won't command THAT much money, and its obvious he want's to go to a contender. I think he's aged pretty well. He's probably not the type who would take youngsters under his wing, but I don't see him as a malcontent at all at this point.
older guys who might once have been an issue, can change their stripes later in their careers when they are trying to cash in on one of their last contracts. while they're still is demand for him, his leverage is much smaller. and, we don't need him to be a leader (we have younger and longer tenured Colts for that), we just need him produce.
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8 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
I used CBS in an earlier thread and you said they wasn't dependable and discredited them.
And now you use them?
I'm just providing the info. I'm not arguing for them, or using them to support an argument (I actually disagree in some areas).
Looks like you just want to argue again per usual though lol..
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Well the smartest GM/Coach in the league for a long time (if not the GOAT) just took a WR in the 1st.
- You started the thread. That pretty much speaks for itself.
Rumor: Colts signing Chad Kelly?
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IDK, I'm very supportive of 2nd chances, this would be like his 4th.
Tossed out of Clemson, arrested in NY in 2014, NFL rescinded combine offer in 2017, and arrested about 6 or 7 months ago.
If he's found Jesus, then I'm all for it though. If this is just taking advantage of a cheap contract situation, hope they think the upside is high. He would definitely benefit from being around a bunch of good guys, just not sure if the good guys would benefit from being around him.