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4 minutes ago, chad72 said:
One more trade down, I am OK with it, and then the saying can apply "a bird in hand worth more than two in the bush"
, time to get busy drafting after that.
man i hated leaving sweat and JT there. i'd really hate leaving AJB there...
3 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:I’ll pray for his wisdom. He is anointed for the task. I have the utmost confidence in him. Lol
hope he doesn't have bad juju tonight because of the whole hill thing
2 minutes ago, chad72 said:Bring along a friend with a rosary, that should do it!!
Then, blow smoke out your chimney that a choice has been made, LOL.
gonna light a candle shortly
lol. love the chimney ref.
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4 minutes ago, Shive said:
I love AJ Brown, but he's not going to take the top off either. Isabella is lightning fast, but I don't think he'd give us much outside of a deep threat for another 3 or 4 years.
At 34, I want Brown, but if we don't get him, I wouldn't be mad with JJAW at the bottom of the 2nd/top of the 3rd. I'm not pounding the table for him, but I'm definitely not opposed.
disagree. he gets behind the D quite easily. he actually had to wait on a lot of balls which let the DB catch up to him. he did plenty of good vertical work when DK when down.
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1 minute ago, chad72 said:
Do we increase the asking price for just Elway (two 2nd rounders) as opposed to the others (2nd and a 3rd) just for Elway gypping the Colts 25 years ago?
I really doubt Elway wants to trade with us. Bengals and Jets, I believe. But then Paul Brown is a cheapskate too.
Jets is my final answer, Regis!!
Hearing the Packers are calling too so they can grab AJ Brown.
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2 minutes ago, TheNextGM said:
I’m excited.. could be a trade, likely to add a couple players to the Colts team.. let’s go Ballard!!!
6 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:Let’s gooooo!
I not a really religious guy or anything, but feel like we should have a group prayer for Ballard. Or maybe just drink a beer in his name lol.
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So far, hearing noise about the Broncos, Bengals, and Jets wanting 34
https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/26/2019-nfl-draft-indianapolis-colts-trade-calls-34th-pick/
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To start things off, 2 buddies have called me saying the 34 trade back is pretty much a done deal. Not sure what's going on in the twittersphere, but if anyone has any info, please share.
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If you're not a fan of the Chat, hang out here for general reaction to what is going on real time.
All outrage and sunshine pumping welcome
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2 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Ok. So like the Johnson value chart, it doesn't account for the future either.
I suspect what's going on here is that Jimmy Johnson is becoming an old name, so they have to sell new copy to a new generation, because new generations tend to think new stuff is better because its newer. And if it needs a computer to calculate it rather than eyeball calculating simple math, its a "smarter" way to look at value.
I understand completely. (Although I did before I asked the question) Thanks.
what I think what's going on is that they took the JVC and put it online, or improved it.
not smarter, easier. i quit carrying around my abacus at least 10 years ago.
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1 minute ago, RNGDShobby said:
34 & 89 for Broncos 41 & 52?
i'd hate to get out of the 30s, but it would be a 22% improvement in capital
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5 minutes ago, DougDew said:
How are those numbers calculated?
And using whatever formula is used, what is the value today of a third round pick in 2021? And does that value change as we get closer to 2021?
there are a ton of calculators out there. i've linked one below. it aligns very well with what the talking heads spit on ESPN and NFL.com
http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.php
it doesn't take into account future picks. IMO, a pick today, is worth more than the same spot next year (just like $).
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5 minutes ago, Shive said:
I don't see Jones as being a good value pick for us, because I don't think he brings anything that the 3Ts on the roster already do. Between Autry, Ward, Muhammad, and Lewis, I think we're pretty set.
JJAW ran a 4.49 40. One of the problems is that Stanford's route tree and QB play required him to have so many contested catches. Not because he doesn't have the ability to get separation, but because that's how their offense is run. He's not going to take the top off of a defense, but that's not necessarily what we need. When Doyle went down, it exposed the fact that we didn't have too many guys that could reliably move the chains. I honestly think he will be a steal for anyone that picks him.
honestly, i want a WR that can take the top off of Ds. I want a legit speed X or slot.
i like JJAW, just not over a guy like AJ Brown or Isabella.
And I question the 4.49. I assume that was a pro-day which are always generous with some home cooking :-).
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1 hour ago, James said:
He is no match for Big Q.
he was a match for Q his last year at ND.
reports stated they always were competitive.
not saying Q hasn't improved, or isn't much better than JT, but if anyone knows Q's moves, it's JT.
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7 minutes ago, RNGDShobby said:
Zierlein has us taking Samuel, Trysten Hill (DT) AND Boykin in rd 2... Samuel yes, but no to the others thanks.
I'd take AJ Brown all day long before Deebo, but I do like Deebo even though he needs polish.
AJ played well at both slot and X (when DK went down), but he's pure pro bowl beast at slot.
he could even be a Z when TY slows.
Boykin would be fine as he could end up being a legit speed X.
I'd love to have any combo of those three though.
Just now, krunk said:Matt Miller
AJ Brown, Dremont Jones, Juan Thornhill
sign me up.
I picked the same, and also an AJ Brown, CGJ, and J Love threesome.
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11 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
Then again, look at his record in Buffalo, Carolina, and Indy. Now he's HOF. Rightfully so.
In addition, he says having a blueprint and following in drafting is key. He says his picks for the Panthers were different than his picks for the Colts. But the blueprint for each was different (schemes, etc) but scouting/grading and drafting to the blueprint was strictly followed. I believe Ballard is of the same mindset.
I love BP, but winning only one SB with Manning, and neglecting the D like he did, is something that still haunts me lol.
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jones at 59 is the only one i'd be ok with
better fits for us at WR. JJAW lacks speed, and we already lack speed. he's a possession guy. He'd be decent if we didn't just pick up Funchess.
i'd rather have a WR or S than Winovich at 34.
I'm betting the experts get zero correct again.
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4 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
Same here. If you look at S snap counts, there had to be 3 of them on the field more than 10%. I remember Mitchell and Geathers being out there together...and later Odum and Geathers.
yup, i meant to put 20% (really 19%). typing too fast and doing to many things at once lol
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5 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
It's not surprising. Bill Polian just said the best of those outside the building only have 40% of the info needed to make a proper decision.
The "experts" IMO these days, get the obvious early picks right, then throw darts at the board.
GMs don't always make good decisions either. Only a few teams make the playoffs, and even some of them have mediocre records/teams. I do think most experts get the "needs" part of it (they are correct with what the teams need), they just suck at grading prospects and predicting what teams will do.
QuoteIf they did, then why pay around ten guys salary, hotel, food to watch and write up reports on the Jr.s and Sr.s in college? Because their 10 guys out there scouting are much better trained than the TV experts.
not to mention all the data geeks they employ. i think Ballard hired like 8 database and stats nerds in addition to his general scouts.
QuotePolian said today if a GM hits (gets at minimum a decent starter within a year or two) on 55% of his picks every year, he'll make the playoffs 5 out of 6 years.
Polian probably has higher expectations than me lol. But he is saying if they hit that numbers, they're going to the playoffs almost every year.
Purely my opinion (and partially based on an article I read), but I'd say by round....
1st - 85% of the time a first rounder should end up being a starter. Top 10 pick 95%.
2nd - 65-70% of the time should be a starter.
3rd - 50% of the time should be a starter or at min solid depth
4th - 25% a starter, 50% solid depth
5th - 10% a starter, 25% solid depth
6th and 7th are a crap shoot
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11 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:
Exactly...until we can field a better team than the Patriots we should always be looking for players who can upgrade the roster.
bingo
IMO, we need new legit upgraded starters at WR and DT. We need at minimum solid depth at S, and probably CB.
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16 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
I have thought about Cover 3...like what SEA would run.
I wonder if they consider a S a S when he moves into that nickel LB role.
I think 3 CBs would be more prevalent. There are going to be time when 4 of them on the field for dime, so that would skew the average a bit. Also, they ran dime with 3 CB/3 S (no Walker).
To to be honest, I want the base defense to be big nickel (without a SAM). If they are playing a run-heavy team, then they can move back to a traditional 4-3.
based on our snap counts, if we're close to the league % from FO, i'd say were running 3 CBs about half the downs, and 4 about 10% of the time. 3 Ss about 10% of the time. and base 25ish.
would love to see some actual analysis of our 2018 seasons.
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13 minutes ago, Reidm said:
Cersei is gonna be mad when she finds out her shoes are missing
Nah, she still PO'd that there are no elephants.
Shoes, what shoes. Where's my damn elephants.
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LAC had a top 10 D vs the run and pass.
Won't be easy.
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Hate that Jax got Allen. Hate that the Titans got Simmons but at least we won't see him this year.
I was surprised to see Howard go that early.
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Not a fan of Ferrell or Abram that early. Not really a fan of Jacobs.
All solid though. I would have went a few guys before Ferrell. Would have went with a different S too. Time will tell with Jacobs. Just think this years RB class was mediocre.
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A little surprised so many folks voted AJ Brown. I thought I'd be in a minority.
, time to get busy drafting after that.
2019 NFL Draft Thread
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I like him, but not at 34.