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I realize that it was I who inserted the per game average in the first place, so it is on me for missing 1 catch per game, however... So, what if I said 1.5 instead of 2.5. You're seriously going to hang your hat on 1 more catch per game average? From a pass catching standpoint that is still terrible. It's putrid. You are a nitpicker and borderline petty. You seem to go out your way most times to prove your own worth to everyone here instead of realizing that both sides on here are normally equally correct or at very least close in their assertions of players. It's one thing to be a stickler for getting the info right, but it's another to believe that the said info is the only factor in the story telling, because it's not. The eye or smell test does hold a lot of weight most times with everything in life. Pierce, if released tomorrow, may not turn out to be a true bust and might have great success with another team, however that wouldn't take away from him being a bust with this team. Isn't that what we all are ultimately aways talking about here? This team. My point has always been that these players that I feel are busts are only busts IMO from the sense that they are not consistent impact players. We can differ on what we consider a bust to be all day. It does not take away from the fact that the two players used in these examples were not impact players on a consistent basis for this team. Doyle was most certainly not and Pierce at this point most certainly is not. You can give any reason you want to as to why but that doesn't change the fact that Pierce has no impact on the game from a "catching the ball" phase and neither did Doyle, consistently week in and week out. Do players like Doyle and Pierce occasionally make plays that might impact a game in the moment? Absolutely, however that is not what this team or fan base should be ultimately looking for. The Colts need consistency from their players. So, the moments can stop being habitually loathed and become more habitually celebrated. You are also overlooking the fact that I have stated all along that I am hoping I am wrong about Pierce as an impactful player as me being wrong about him would ultimately be helping a team that I root for who is in desperate need of impact players at the skill positions or at very least players who can get consistently open and put themselves in position to help a young QB so that said young QB doesn't have to think he has to run to make plays every drop back because there's nobody open. This we should at least agree with. Pierce has yet to do this. Based on what I have seen so far, without giving consideration to any little reason to as to why he has yet to show up consistently, it doesn't take the smartest guy in the room to figure out something just isn't quite right here in regards to the player and to me, it's that little shred of intuition of something missing that put this guy originally in the boom or bust category coming out of college from those who actually studied his game much more than you or I. This is why I'm more apt to believe he is going to bust then boom, although I'm hoping I'm wrong. On to week 5

With all respect to you and anyone right now, do you even know what you said? You honestly believe the Colts have been trying to find a TE who could do what Doyle did? The Colts haven't had a true playmaking TE since Dallas Clark. So, you truly believe the Colts have been trying to find a TE to replace a guy who averaged 1.5 catches a game. Seriously? Or do you mean from an overall position where blocking was more of his thing. A utility guy who went out there and was a good soldier for the team because that is not relevant to my position. I don't think any of the people who seem to want to argue with me even reads what I write. I even bolded it. I said Doyle sucks from a position of catching passes. Meaning he was not a productive pass catcher unless you believe catching 1.5 passes a game is productive. He wasn't in the gameplan from a pass catching standpoint. He was always a true last resort or late read most of the time. I don't care about what else Doyle did for the team. My argument lies that he was not a productive skill position player. I don't care if he was an above average blocker or whatever, that's not what I'm talking about. Same goes for Pierce. He's a JAG. He makes no impact on the game with where he stands right now. Zero. Impact. That is my point. Pierce is the equivalent to getting to round 6 of your fantasy draft and realizing you haven't focused on your Wr's so you just take best available. Sometimes it might work out, most times it doesn't. If your focused on WR's more, Pierce doesn't even enter into your zip code other than a late round flier with no expectation. This guy was taken in the 3rd. Coming out most had Pierce as a boom or bust prospect. At this point he is a total bust. What Impact has he truly had on this team. Where is the boom aside from the implosion of disappointment. <Facts! This team needs impact players. Not more years of hoping a bunch of bums get better. I get where some want to still give chances and wait sees as that's all we have so why not. I mean yea, at this moment he's all we have. It's one thing to hope, and also realize that the player just isn't that good, but you got people like @NewColtsFan who want to continuously make excuses and preach innuendos for a bunch of bums and a GM instead of just saying yea, I hope he gets better, but he's looking like the lights might be too bright for him. <This is a more realistic sense of the situation, but the above-mentioned forum member gets off on having everyone believe he's the smartest guy in the room and he's far from it. He will never be realistic from a fan point of view because then his whole narrative is exposed as a leaky boat and that would mean his whole foundational arguments don't hold water and he'd end up sinking down here with the rest of us. God forbid that ever happens. If Pierce gets better and I'm wrong, so be it. I will gladly be wrong, but all signs are pointing away from that. The bust meter is filling up and the Colts making plays for receivers tells you that. I think most get upset with me because I'm a quick trigger on some players. I get that is not a good look sometimes but it's right on point with this guy and yes, I knew it on draft night. He's a bust until proven otherwise.

The bolded applies to each of us. Heck, it applies to anyone's opinion. I think honestly what gets lost on you, like many others here is just the common sense of it in simple terms. It's the Jack Doyle argument. There are a lot on here that believes Jack Doyle was a great player. The obvious is that Jack Doyle is a very good player or else he would not have played in the NFL at all. Same applies to Pierce, but that's as far as it goes. That is what should be an obvious given. With that said though, Jack Doyle still sucks. Did he make a catch every once in a blue moon that kept a drive alive or aided in a team positive progression in a clutch moment? Yes. But at the end of that day, he had a 3 target or less per game average over the lifespan of his career. That means he was NEVER really in the gameplan from the point of catching the ball. He might have been an awesome blocker, but that's irrelevant where my argument has always laid. Players that are viewed or trusted to make plays always get larger roles in the gameplan. This is where AP comes in. Is he sometimes used as a decoy? Who cares. He shouldn't be because every coach in the league knows he sucks and he doesn't scare you, but I digress. Is he a good blocker? Who knows. Who cares. This team has a major need at skill positions who make plays that lead to points, especially WRs and Alec Pierce should know this. Meaning that he's had, and he's currently got an excellent chance of filling that void, yet he is a no show and when he has been given the opportunity THIS YEAR, to date, he has been terrible. <Facts But tying Pierce together with Jack Doyle, it's not, as you say, AR getting accustomed to reading defenses that's been Pierce's problem. That is total garbage. But Pierce's problem does fall right into your own words regarding Reggie Wayne, and I quote. Wayne admitted that the Colts need to get Pierce more opportunities. <<<Hello?? Obvious alert!! Alec Pierce is not a part of the gameplan. Hence why he needs more opportunities and yet if Alec pierce was such an awesome player with so much promise and ceiling, wouldn't you believe that those opportunities would've already been given from a HOF WR himself? or is it just Pierce is so great that he's getting double and triple teamed while no one is really looking. You think Ballard and Steichen think there is a WR issue with this team currently? I know I do, have been saying it for years, but do you think they do? You for one are always quick to believe the press junk, so it seems that the Colts were wanting to upgrade the WR room doesn't it, while trying to trade JT? You know Waddle and Watson or is the press junk only correct when it applies to an argument you are trying to win? How many 4 receiver sets have you seen the Colts run lately? . Seriously. How many? Come on old self-proclaimed guru of knowing what the Colts front office wants to do. What's the answer? Is it that their secret plan is to run 4 receiver sets but can't without a 4th receiver? So, let's just play devil's advocate and say the Colts did make a trade and got Watson from the Packers for JT. You think it was going to be Watson, Pierce, and Downs or Mackensie? Or maybe Watson, Pittman, and Pierce was going to play the slot. Come on. Who's the odd man out here? Pierce is a bust and they know it. Heck, everybody knows it except of course the all-knowing California guy who loves to throw out facts and chastise all who doesn't use facts all while never seeing real facts right in front of his face. Yeah, and what I've been saying is nonsense...

He Is A Bust. I don't care how you want to continue to spin it. Take your hogwash to another time zone. I don't know who you keep trying to convince here, but I think I know. You need some Either that or you just like to hear yourself pretend like you know what you're talking about. I don't care if Reggie Waynes grandmother says to get him the ball, he's a BUST that won't be in canton. Mister "he's the beat you over the top with speed guy" can't gain separation. Mister out here to "win the contest/go up and get the ball over the defender guy" can't even secure a pass that was perfectly in his hands in a crucial part of the game against the rams. He's not good. Move on. Take your little ghost that could and go haunt another house!

I truly believe that the Colts should attempt to strike a deal with the Bears for Claypool. I'm not sure he's damaged goods. If all is true, I think the dude just wants to be a featured part of a gameplan and lord knows we need receivers. I say it's worth a look sees. Just my

Friendos... I have been called out for saying that AP was a wasted 2022 2nd round pick. Let's see if I turn out to be right. This is a running weekly tab on how many games the real ghost, aka Alec Pierce, disappears. Week one: CHECK Week two: CHECK Week Three: Partial CHECK ( 3 for 7 is better or aka a little Boo ) Week Four: CHECK Week Five:

Or... Alec, I'll take getting not upset if another team took you off our hands for $1000 worth of 's.

I actually believe Pierce will not be on this team past his rook contract. I hope I'm wrong because we need receivers in the worst way, however I have never thought Pierce was a high ceiling player. The one trick pony non-sense some label him as "his thing" is very misleading considering this guy never seems to truly beat anybody on the long ball with speed. Wasted pick and I'm standing pat until proven otherwise.

Ok, "stat/facts/metrics/analytics/I read all the articles" ...guy. I'm just here watching games... On to week 3

Friendos... I have been called out for saying that AP was a wasted 2022 2nd round pick. Let's see if I turn out to be right. This is a running weekly tab on how many games the real ghost, aka Alec Pierce, disappears. Week one: CHECK Week two:

We should trade the Jets the rights to Andrew Luck for their 2024 and 2025 1st round picks

This. It was and still is my biggest fear. Ballard was asked if not having JT would stunt AR's development. They should've asked if not a legit receiving room having would. It would've been more accurate. With the news that broke earlier today that the Colts asked for Watson in the GB trade offer and earlier Waddle news, it tells me the Colts realize this bigtime. Go Colts!!

Ha!! I forgot about him actually..

Most times I agree with your takes, however here I will have to disagree. Ballard and the staff have drafted some fine players in past 6 years or so. Where they have fallen short is offensive elite skill talent. Taylor so far, (hopefully Downs might be really good) is the only offensive elite skill talent that has been drafted. Of all of them other than Taylor, I still have high hopes on Granson. Maybe this year is the year he puts it all together. Anyways, carry on sir -cheers

To me this isn't a wild ask. Clearly the Colts understand that our WR room is putrid, so at least I'm pleased to find out that they asked for a great need for this team. Gives me hope that in the upcoming years this position NOW will start to finally be addressed.

It can't be a loose deadline IMO. Rosters have to be determined along with RB plan moving forward. Could the Colts be content with Hull and Jackson until Moss is back, sure, but I really do believe that some in the building would either like to have Taylor or in the event Taylor is traded, Kareem Hunt. It wouldn't surprise me if there has been an agreement where Hunt would be the starter should Taylor get traded. Whatever is going to happen has to happen today.

Well, considering that the dolphins just traded Feeney(OG) to the Bears, I'm sure Hunt will not be a part of a trade package for taylor.

I don't think they could ever do it with all the money tied up in Murray. I mean that team would be crippled for years.

Maybe. I just wouldn't have paid Leonard all that and I love Leonard. I agree that this more than likely has to do with whatever injury is correct here with Taylor and the Colts wanting him healthy b4 committing. It's just easier sometimes when a player views money given to other positions on a team and relating it to what they deem they deserve as well. If I'm Taylor I'm looking at the money shelled out to Leanord and Nelson and being like cm'on brah?

What's funny is I didn't even see this and I just now commented about this very thing.

Wow.. Should have just kept him

All the metrics in today's NFL is interesting but I truly believe that regardless of the current NFL landscape of valuing RBs, this JT contract dilemma would have been a lot easier if our GM hadn't given elite money to a MLB. <Another position you just don't give money too or even the guard, although the MLB has to take the cake here. I really put most of this on Ballard and unfortunately, even though he might have finally seen the light to where the current NFL positions bread is buttered, we might have to lose a very talented offensive piece in the process. Let's either get him a Jacobs like extension or get him gone.