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Matt Stafford too and he won a SB in his 13th season

Mainly, the people that did not want us to draft AR are coming up with everything imaginable to justify why we shouldn't have taken him. From the 4 games I have seen him play, he looked above average to me. My only worry is, can he stay healthy?

What a great week. We get creamed down in Jacksonville, we lose AR for the season, we lose Grover for 6 games, and now this = these ugly uniforms.

Let me ask you this, I know you will answer me honestly. Do you think Joe Burrow is a top 5 QB in the league? Do you think he is the 26th best QB in the league?

Regarding the Browns, the 49ers played without Deebo and McCaffrey in the 2nd Half. That is their 2 best offensive players and they even missed a chip shot FG for the win. Had Deebo and McCaffrey played, the Browns would have lost by at least 10 points. That win was tainted.

Yeah after we win this week, he won't post all week and the people saying we should tank will once again look silly . It's a week to week league. Last week Dallas looked like a bunch of CowPatties vs the 49ers, this past week everyone says they are a top 5 in the league again since they won at LA. Too many people are way too fickle and overreact to 1 loss.

I really don't know how to explain it to you, of course his QBR is 26th right now because he has struggled, so yes that particular stats is factual as of today regarding Burrow. The misleading thing is, he is a lot better than being the 26th best QB. Has he played good this year - no, but anyone that follows football would still rank him in the top 5 QB's in the league. A few bad games does not mean he is who the QB he is. That is about the only way I can explain it. If you disagree with me that is fine because I can't find a way to explain it any better lol. Bottomline is, I just think using 1 thing to measure how good a QB is, doesn't tell the whole story. One thing I have learned from stats people is, they never factor in a QB's presence/leadership, fear factor, or clutch factor - those things do not show up on a stat sheet. It is just all about stats. I am even a stats guy to an extent, but I would take Joe Montana over Drew Brees all-time and that would be an easy decision but statistically by almost any measure, Brees was better. No matter how I explain things I doubt you will get my point, but I tried.

Joe Burrow has struggled but you know as well as I do by the end of the season he and his team will make the playoffs. In reality he isn't the 26th best QB in the league. My point is, stats can be misleading as can QBR. I just think someone that says AR isn't good because his QBR is 45 is a little misleading. That is just my opinion. I am not trying to knock your opinion but a lot of different factors determine how good a QB is.

You posted "Why? He didn't win ANY games lol". I simply said that is false and I am right, it is a fact. The starter rule and only playing 1 or 2 Qtrs is an NFL rule, not something I made up. It is actually a good rule because if a QB starts and leaves with lead, at that point if his team loses, it isn't his fault. Let's go to QBR. Do you realize that Trevor Lawrence has a QBR almost equal to Mustache. It is 54.4 to 54.2 and that is even after the game on Sunday where Mustache was awful. Joe Burrow is 26th in QBR at 39.9 so by your logic, AR is better than Joe Burrow by a lot at 45.. See where QBR IS FLAWED. There isn't 5 QBs better than Joe Burrow in the whole league. I actually watch the games and see how players play, so I know who is bad, average, above average, good, very good, or great.

Not much really for me to comment on here, regarding this thread. You guys covered it all. Next man up, Go Colts.

False, Pro-Football Reference shows every stat to every player. Even a QB's W/L record before his numbers. He is 2-2 as a starter, he got credited for the wins over Houston and Tennessee because he started and when he left the Colts were ahead in both games. Having said that, after watching AR play in the 1st 4 games it was obvious to me that teams feared him more than Mustache because of his ability to run (he has 4 Rushing TDs) + he has a stronger arm so he at least can throw deep on occasion. AR was also playing much better than I thought he would, despite what his QBR says. He is damn near 3-1, he led a comeback down 23-0 vs the Rams to send it into OT, he never got a chance in OT because they won the coin toss and scored. If that Rams game didn't get you excited about AR then nothing will.

The news about Grover sucks but I will still roll with the Colts. I am actually 8-4 on my bets not 8-3, I had to correct that. Anyway, that Jags at Saints game looks intriguing to bet on. I am leaning toward the Saints, but I haven't done anything yet. They play Thursday and Lawrence has a knee issue. Jags are also due for a loss. Saints are only a 1-point favorite.

Cool.

It's GOLD all right

Maybe he got on Twitter and had 1 too many Scotches on the Rocks

I 100% agree, we have no way of knowing.

Not really, QBR isn't the tell all. AR was still 22nd in QBR rating, far from the worst. Watson, Howell, and Dobbs all have a QBR rating higher than AR and those QB's have looked like doo doo. I go by the whole picture of what I am watching, not 1 stat to fit a narrative. Kirk Cousins is 2nd in the league in passing yards and he isn't even a top 10 QB. If I wanted to make Yards my narrative, I could say Kirk is the 2nd best QB in the league and great, which is far from the truth.

It is easier on a backup QB that comes in with a lead. Mustache wasn't behind when he came in against Houston or Tennessee, so he had very little pressure, just don't turn it over and run Moss and let your defense make plays.

I didn't see this poll, tough to tell so I voted about the same. AR was playing above average before he got injured though so I was leaning toward decreases but I went same.

Great picking, who would have thought the Eagles and 49ers would lose to the teams they played?? You could have been 14-1.

Before the season started, I felt like AR and Mustache could win roughly the same amount of games had they played all 17. Simply because AR was a rookie coming in and would have growing pains, but I thought he would at least be average. Mustache has been a great backup over the years so I was thinking 8 wins either way. After watching AR play in the 4 games I have seen, with AR playing all 17 - I believe this team may have won 10 this year had he stayed healthy. He was playing better than average.

I think we are playing better this year, only time will tell. Taylor is healthy as well. Like I said I could be wrong, I still see 8-8-1 at worse assuming Mustache doesn't get injured. If our schedule was brutal, then I would pick us to win maybe 5 or 6 games, but it isn't. This is such a week-to-week league. A lot of people are boasting about the Browns because they beat the 49ers but they aren't consistent nor are most teams. Almost everyone had the Cowboys buried after they got thumped by the 49ers, now they are the toast of the NFL after last night's win at Chargers. In all my years of covering the sport, most people overreact after a team wins or loses. For some saying Mustache got exposed and that we are just going to implode is a little overboard. Maybe the Jags are simply better? He had 1 bad week. If he has 2 bad weeks in a row, then that would be concerning. We play some average QB's the rest of the way so Mustache isn't outmatched in most of these games. Joe Burrow is the only elite QB we play the rest of the year. Trevor Lawrence is a top 10 QB.

Hey everyone has opinions. We will see. If I am wrong so be it, then we get a top 10 pick. I just think our schedule is pretty weak.

This is thinking optimistic, but it isn't extreme either. If we do lose one of these that I have as a win, then we would be 8-8-1 like I picked before the season.