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5 minutes ago, Track Guy said:
In the RB class right now I like Kamara and McCaffrey the best, with Fournette a close third. Cook perhaps 4th, Mixon 5th, and maybe Foreman 6th.
I go: Fournette, McCaffrey, Mixon, Kamara, Mack, Cook
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10 minutes ago, twfish said:
I just don't see Bowser being worth a first in any film I've watched yet
I watched two games (live) and haven't really watched any tape. If you're just thinking of him as an edge rusher, I agree with you. However, he played in a system that had him in coverage most of the time. He was fantastic in coverage and great against the run. His pass rush potential is a bonus to me. I see him as many see Haason Reddick, a very athletic ILB who can rush the QB...
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Random Draft Thought: I have believed that Dalvin Cook will fall into Round 2 since the combine. The guy has character concerns (three arrests and a huge posse with some bad dudes), injury concerns (three shoulder surgeries), and athletic concerns (no RB with as unathletic a combine profile has been drafted in Round 1 since like 2003). Any one of these concerns could disqualify him for the #15 pick, and with all three he falls from the 1st. The Boulevard of Broken NFL Dreams is littered with great college runners who had issues like Cook's.
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I always like to post my final thoughts is the (very) off chance that I nail it. I feel especially lost this year with a new GM I don't know and a lot of needs. Furthermore, I have a theory that new GMs have four years of job security and are much less likely to draft for need (to cover previous roster mistakes), so they can be more BPA than established GMs. So I find myself guessing on who that BPA might be...
1) Kevin King
2) Chris Wormley
3) Trey Hendrickson
4) Delano Hill
4) Jeremy McNichol
4) Brendan Langley
5) Samson Ebukam
Like many, I hope for a trade down. I miss out on my biggest man-crush in the no-trade scenario, so here's my trade-down to 25ish scenario:
1) Tyus Bowser
2) Sidney Jones
2) Trey Hendrickson
3) Nico Siragusa
4) Delano Hill
4) Jeremy McNichol
4) Brendan Langley
5) Samson Ebukam
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Round 1 - #15
A. Kevin King, CB, Washington
B. Jarrad Davis, LB, Florida
C. Marlon Humphrey, CB, AlabamaRound 2 - #46
A. Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston
B. Chris Wormley, DL, MichiganRound 3 - #80
A. Trey Hendrickson, OLB, Florida Atlantic
B. Marlon Mack, RB, South FloridaRound 4 - #122
A. Jeremy McNichol, RB, Boise State
B. Nico Siragusa, OG, San Diego St.Round 4 - #137
A. Delano Hill, S, Michigan
B. John Johnson, S, Boston CollegeRound 4 - #144
A. Brendan Langley, CB, LamarB. Howard Wilson, CB, Houston
Round 5 - #158
A. Samson Ebukam, LB, Eastern Washington
B. Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP
Free Agents: 3 choices
A. Ralph Green III, DL, Indiana
B. Patrick Towles, QB, Boston College
C. Trey Edmunds, RB, Maryland -
55 minutes ago, twfish said:
So back during the 15 draft a buddy and I went to the bdubs in Avon because the colts were hosting a "draft party", I say it because the only colts related thing there was 2 cheerleaders, and we were the only 2 repping colts gear. There were all sorts of people lining up to get there pictures taken with the two girls and my buddy and I really didn't have any interest in it and were focused on the draft. Well things die down some and next thing we know we have these two good looking Indianapolis Colts cheerleaders standing at our table wanting us to come take a picture with them since we were the only ones with colts jerseys on. Well little did they know that asking us that opened up the door to my buddy and I flirting with them the rest of the night
.I tried and tried and tried to get ones number saying things like "you know I think your phone took a better picture then mine your gunna have to text it too me" but she saw through all the lines it probably didn't help my cause that she had a couple years on me but I tried like hell anyways and still have the pictures lol. It's not a crazy story but a funny one that will always stick out too me
Funny, my cousin asked out Miss Universe in similar circumstances for the simple reason that a guy's gotta try when presented with such an opportunity. He told her so too. She said, "Let's just say I have to wash my hair."
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I remember that I user to go to the Spring barrel tasting festival in the Yakima valley in Washington state with a bunch of geek wino friends. It always coincided with draft weekend. So this one year I'd just started texting and my sister-in-law was texting me each pick as they came on TV. I was convinced we'd draft a TE, as we really missed Ken Dilger the year before when he left in FA, I had my fingers crossed for Jason Witten, but instead we took a dude whose name I'd heard a few times but knew little about: Dallas Clark. True story. Wow! I'm getting this old man tactic of telling long, boring stories down pat!
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I came to the conclusion that he would be gone by our 2nd, but rumors like this one about him lasting past the 3rd often have legs. I saw the report from a scout on rotoworld saying that. I'm hopeful we could get him in the 2nd, but I'd pounce then.,
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1 hour ago, Shive said:
As a RB prospect, you like TJ Logan better than Mixon? Wait, what??
I'm not a big fan of Bowser and don't exactly understand the hype. He has good potential, but didn't exactly produce against a lower level of competition.
I think there is a huge misconception about Bowser. He's being evaluated as an edge rusher, but he spent less than half his time on the field rushing. He was more typically in coverage, which he did very well. He got 8.5 sacks as a sr. without really rushing the QB very much at all. I see him as an athletic LB who can cover and blitz. Not sure which position he would play off the bat...
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I'd be over the moon, as you got all my favorites, really: Bowser, Mixon, and Griffin, anyway. Maybe I'm just too pessimistic, as I doubt our ability to snag Bowser (my favorite realistic fit for the Colts in the entire draft) in the 2nd round, much less the 3rd. Same is true for Mixon and Griffin in their rounds. But conventional wisdom says you are right...
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As pure need,I'd rank them CB, ILB, Edge, RB, anther CB
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3 hours ago, rock8591 said:
Man, so many darn reaches in this draft. Every player is likely to be picked TWO rounds later than this projected mock.
Tyus Bowser is way overrated, his most number of sacks a year is 8.5. Let that sink in a minute. He'll be another Johnathan Newsome.
The dude wasn't rushing the passer that much. He was is coverage way more often...
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Post Combine Mock
I think Ballard is likely to trade down with this pick. Standing at #15, his best choice would be a CB: Lattimore (almost certainly gone), Conley, or Humphrey would all be great values there, and they’re the only three definite Day 1 starters IMHO. However, with the deep CB class and Ballard’s desire to build through the draft, the trade-down into the mid-20s makes a lot of sense. The implied job security of a new GM with a re-build in front of him lets him push the 2nd CB position into the 2nd round. So, PROJECTED TRADE: #15 pick for somewhere around the #25 pick and a late 2nd round pick.
1) Tyus Bowser, LB, Houston. Been a favorite of mine since I noticed his ability in coverage and incredible acceleration around the edge about mid-season. One scout called him a twitched up toy for a D-coordinator. Bottom line is that he can cover and rush, has outstanding athleticism and speed, great experience in coverage, great instincts, and can run and tackle. That guy will be a future mainstay somewhere in the LB corps, and initially will be at ILB. For a LB corps that needs upgrades and long-term solutions across the board, a player with Bowser’s versatility is just what’s needed.
2) Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado. I’m not sure who my favorite 2nd round CB is, but Witherspoon is a freakish athlete with great man coverage ability (our specialty). 6’3”, 198 lbs, 4.45 forty, 40.5” vertical, 6.93 three-cone, 4.13 short shuttle. He’s a sticky cover guy, but he’s a poor tackler and not physical in run support. In one of the odder criticisms I’ve seen, one scouting report called him a “know-it-all”, which could impugn his coachability. His athleticism and college tape is going to get him drafted earlier than people think. There are other CBs well worth this pick who could be there if you don’t like Witherspoon, such as Awuzie, Tankersley, Moreau, Wilson, etc.
2T) Trey Hendrickson, OLB, South Florida. I’m a big fan of this guy. He was unblockable at the East West Shrine practices; in fact, he was the game’s defensive MVP. A great pass rusher who proved to possess excellent physical traits for a 6’4”, 266 lb. player at the Combine: 4.65 forty, 1.59 10-yard split, 7.03 3-cone, 33.5” vertical, and 10’2” broad jump. His Combine #s are good enough to convince me he has the athletic traits to do everything our Rush OLB does.
3) Nico Siragusa, OG, Arizona St. Ballard wants more competition (and presumably more depth) on the line. Siragusa brings great athleticism for a second day OG known for his run-blocking. I think his superior athletic figures at the Combine will propel him above some of the other second day OL prospects (much stronger and better jumps than Moton/Dawkins, with similar shuttles/cones). Hopefully, he could develop into a solid all-round OG very quickly.
4) Brian Allen, DB, Utah. I’ll admit, I’m actually sold on Shaq Griffin, but I think his physical profile will get him drafted in the late 3rd, even if his tape would not. Allen has a bit of technique work to do…well, a lot of technique work to do. However, he is another plus athlete to throw into the CB pool. At the Combine: 6’3, 215 lbs., 4.48 forty, 15 bench reps, 6.64 3-cone, 4.34 short shuttle, and 34.5” vertical. That’s top drawer for a middle-round guy.
4T) John Johnson, S, Boston College. I discounted him after he ran a 4.61 forty at the Combine. However, upon further review, everything else at his Combine was pretty good, especially his 6.72 three-cone. Anyway, he is a smart, reliable last line of defense. Definitely more of a coverage guy than an in-the-box. That’s what I’m looking for.
4C) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP. In a very good RB draft, there were only four guys possibly available to us in this draft that I would want as the present and future feature back: McCaffrey, Mixon, Kamara, and Mack. The others are all probably future role players. Having gotten to the 4th round and not gotten one of those, I pushed off the need to the end of the round and picked up the best athlete I could find. Jones is too slow (4.56) to go earlier, but he’s got a pretty good athletic profile other than that: 37.5” vertical, 6.82 three-cone, 4.20 short shuttle.
5) Samson Ebukam, LB, Eastern Washington. I tuned into a couple of E. Washington games this year to check out Cooper Kupp, and Ebukam jumped out at me a bit. Then his Pro Day: 6’2, 240, 4.48 forty, 39.5 vertical, 10-10 Broad Jump, 6.98 3-cone, 4.35 short shuttle. He was productive enough in college: 71 tackles and 9.5 sacks playing DL (including playoffs). Like Bowser, his size and athleticism could put him at ILB or OLB. This will be a true case of having competition sort out the LBs this year after a serious infusion of athleticism. He should be a special teams demon, and we’ll see what he turns into on D.
In all, I would like to get a little more at CB than this in the draft (an instant solid starter like Humphrey would have been nice), but you can’t get everything you want in the draft. This draft continued what I considered Offseason Priority #1 (revamping the LB corps by adding versatile freak Bowser and heir apparent Rush LB Hendrickson). It probably left the feature back and top CB role to next year’s draft. However, the addition of Siragusa to the interior of the OL should continue to add necessary depth.
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Does Minho seem like an ILB? I hadn't thought of him like that, but he flamed out as an edge rusher, so who knows?
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I've had the trade-down option in the first as my preference for some time. I'm starting to put Bowser as my pick for the Colts in the #25 range. But, I think his value is as an athletic Inside LB. He is extremely good in coverage, as well as instinctive. While he should be a great blitzer, he is under-developed as a rusher. So, if you view him as an edge rusher, I can see you thinking he's a third round guy. But you're overlooking the best parts of his game. He's what everyone seems to think Reddick will be...
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Rotoworld mock had Bowser in the 1st this morning.
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22 hours ago, Shive said:
I like it and it definitely seems "Ballard-like" given no draft history and only going off of what he's preached and done so far in FA. Bowser is a wildcard, as he could go high 2nd to low 3rd, but I'd be ecstatic with those top 3. I'm not on the Foreman hype train, but I wouldn't be upset if we picked him. Awesome post @stitches!
One of the CBS guys (that Bruegler guy, or something like that) put Bowser at #23 this morning...
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A lot of bashers here, but I have Bowser in Round 2 of my mock and would be crossing my fingers that he lasts that long. I've been thinking of him like many see Reddick since I watched two Houston games about mid year. IMHO, he is an athletic ILB that can do everything well, including rush the passer and cover. The fact that you can use him as an edge rusher is gravy.
BTW, I tuned into Reddick's and Willis' games too and came away less impressed. I didn't think much of Willis at all. Reddick, I liked a lot, but he seemed like a bit of a freelancer. Not sure how he'll translate to a pro system with more defined assignments for him...
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Wow! He was off my board as a plodder. This is a game changer for him...
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Tempted by Allen, but I'm taking Conley. Need a hit in round 1, and not willing to take an injury risk. If my team doctors tell me it's a non-issue, however, I'm taking Allen.
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My War Room discussion would be between Hooker, Humphrey, Reddick, and trading down. In the end, I'd take Hooker as the BPA. I could still pick up a good CB in the 2nd, and Hooker's presence would eventually enable Geathers to line up more often in an ILB role. BTW, I predict Hooker will be available at 15.
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I'm a big fan of Hendrickson and Griffin. I'M really not sure how high I'd draft an OLB this year after our acquisitions, but Hendrickson in the 4th would thrill me (almost as much as Haeg in the 5th did last year)...
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7 hours ago, I'm mad, bro said:
He's very talented I've seen him crack the 1st round in a mock recently, idk if he's the same freak athlete Haasan is tho. Do you think Tyus would play ILB or OLB on our 3-4? Anyways I've done a redo above and I feel like maybe even doing another. Definitely want an ILB, 2 CBS, and an edge with our first 4 picks. I want to stay put in the 1st and try to land Reddick or Foster, but trading back in the 2nd for a late 3rd would be super ideal.
I've thought of him as an ILB for us ever since I saw how great he was in coverage. But, the beauty of the pick would be that he could play any of our LB positions, so I'd go into TC with an open mind...
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OT is a position I feel we have long-term starters in place. Upgrading talent at other areas of dire need is the opportunity cost of selecting him. And passing up Humphrey or Foster or Reddick, etc. to select him would be a big mistake...
.I tried and tried and tried to get ones number saying things like "you know I think your phone took a better picture then mine your gunna have to text it too me" but she saw through all the lines
Random Draft Thoughts Thread
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Got another one. Random Draft Thought: Really not a fan of Jordan Willis. Tuned in to a K-State game late in the year, and was not impressed at all. Didn't seem to do much at all. No great pass rushes. Didn't even look particularly athletically to me. He was great at his workouts, and I'm left wondering why someone that athletic couldn't do anything on the field. I've seen a very small sample of his work, but he should have been much more productive given his athletic ability. I wouldn't have him high on my list...