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    Jordan Love combine presser

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    1 minute ago, coming on strong said:

    I believe pat mahomes was voted most overrated too. Coming out of the draft people said his offense made his numbers look inflated. They also said he would be a pick machine in the nfl.    I remember when manning came out a scout said if he wasn't Archie's son he would be a 3rd round pick


    Fair enough.  Personally, I think that the most important part of our QB analysis for this draft class will be the interviews.  We have a cerebral HC and OC, and they’ll draft someone who can understand and talk Xs and Os at a high level (if they draft one at all).  I can’t get past the fact that Love probably isn’t that guy.  (Mahomes, Luck, and Manning definitely were that guy.)

    Javon Kinlaw won't work out at the combine - knee tendinitis

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    35 minutes ago, DougDew said:

    Pass.  We have other needs and I want a sure thing starter or future QB at 13, not a potential lingering problem. 

     

    Maybe we make a stronger play for some of the FA in a few weeks.

     Funny , the different perspectives out there.  I would use almost the same logic FOR drafting Kinlaw.  I want a sure fire star (Kinlaw), rather than a potential lingering Problem (Love).  

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    Jordan Love combine presser

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    7 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

    We’ll see. Ballard has the best poker face in the league. It’s always hard to guess what he’ll do. He’s got 3 drafts under his belt and all of them look different. He holds all the cards close to him. Plus we don’t know how the picks before us will go besides picks one and two. Plus he’s never had to draft a QB before so we don’t even know what he’s looking for.

     

    If I had to put a bet on it, I’d say there’s a 60% chance he’ll draft a QB in the first.


    True.  I’ve been thinking about what the most important traits CB and Reich will look for in a QB.  I think #1 is going to be Football IQ.  They want someone who can read a D presnap, make adjustments, and nail the mental game.  To me, I don’t think that is Jordan Love.  He was great when he was in the air-raid and just had to pick a receiver and throw a precise pass into the window.  Not so good when he had to read a D this season.  I’ve read some stuff about Gordon actually having Peyton-like football IQ (even though he was in an air-raid too).  At any rate, I’d think that the interviews will be where we fall for a QB in this draft...

    Colts draft QB 3rd Rd

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    I actually agree with you.  I think that Jordan Love has been vastly over-hyped among draftniks, particularly those on this forum.  I don't think there's any way that Love would be drafted by Ballard over some of the other prospects that will be available.  Not sure who that'll be, but it'll be some of the following: Andrew Thomas, Javon Kinlaw, Jerry Jeudy, Derrick Brown, Mekhi Becton, Tristan Wirfs, Henry Ruggs, etc.  Too high of an opportunity cost to take a shot at Josh Allen Jr.  (Allen had a decent season to my surprise in Year 2, but I still don't see him ever being an above average QB.)  At any rate, it's unpopular around here, but I see us going with Brissett, Kelly, and hopefully Anthony Gordon of Washington St., and reassessing what we have after the year.  

     

    BTW, if I thought Ballard was done assessing JB and Kelly and was certain they weren't the one, I think he'd go all out for Bridgewater...

    Your Current Top 10 Colts

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    Leonard

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    12 hours ago, indyagent17 said:

    1. Nelson

    2. Leonard

    3. Hilton

    4. Castanzo

    5. Kelly

    6. Mack

    7. Smith

    8. Doyle

    9. Turay

    10. Ya Sin

     

    Noticed a few players in that this is bAsicly my list too...maybe bump Turay up two spots - I’m bullish on him.

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    Lombardi on qb situation

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    Look, I don’t disagree with his assessment that JB lacks anticipation.  But the Rivers stuff is insane.  If you have a team leader in JB that you bring back, why would you bring in a declining face of another franchise to confuse the situation?   To me it’s simple, JB is starter, and Kelly and probable draftee are there if JB proves himself not to be the man next year... I’d rather learn something and develop JB, Kelly, and draftee than bring in the next Collins..

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    Math for Pick #13

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    32 minutes ago, Barry Sears said:

    Would not want to see Love picked at #13, if he's the only one of the top 4 QBs available.  But, if Ballard sees him as worthy of the #13 pick, then I know he has been thoroughly evaluated and CB would be comfortable with him at 13.


    This is how I feel.  From everything I’ve seen, I don’t think I’d take Love with our #34 pick, but it CB pulls the trigger at #13, I’ll be thinking, “I guess I was wrong!”

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    Math for Pick #13

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    I’ve been thinking about our first round pick, and I think a few great players at positions of need will definitely available for us to choose from.  Now, some of us have been vocal anti-Lovers, but you can throw him into the discussion also.  Here’s how the math breaks down:

     

    Players who’ll be long gone:

     

    (6) Burrow, Young, Tua, Okudah, Herbert, Simmons

     

    That leaves six more players that’ll be gone before we pick.  Most of the likeliest players to go in the other six picks before us seem to be at positions of need: DT, WR, and OT.

     

    OT may not be an obvious position of need to many of you, but when you win in the trenches, you have to ensure proper depth and succession.  I think Castonzo is going to come back, but getting his successor in place and gaining experience (probably starting at another position) is a great idea.  Not too easy to find a top LT without a high pick or grossly overpaying.  Plus, it potentially gets the weak link (Glowinski) out of the lineup and makes him available for depth.  So, the following players should make up the bulk of the rest selected before our pick:

     

    DT (2) Kinlaw, Brown

    WR (3) Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb

    OT (4) Wills, Thomas, Becton, Wirfs

    QB (1) (If you must) Love

     

    So, at least four of those ten should be available to us.  Maybe more if someone snags another EDGE or CB or Safety or something.  I think my priorities would be the DTs in the order above, followed by the four OTs.  I’d be tempted to take Jeudy over Wirfs, maybe...

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    Oliver Luck quote

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    Part of me believes that Irsay and Ballard may be willing to hold off on majorly addressing the QB position another year to see if Luck still has no desire to return.  This isn’t like when we moved on from Manning because the next great one stumbled into our laps.  There are no easy/high probability solutions in this draft...

    TDN Premium Forum Mock draft

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    Has anyone selected Oklahoma’s Parnell Motley yet.  Very productive with the pbu this year, and has some length.  You did well - I’m still 100% out on Love in the first two rounds, but Kinlaw and Wanogho in our first three picks are perfect. Love Duggar, and I have a good feeling that Wonnum will be a decent pro, despite pretty modest athletic skills...

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