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5 hours ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
so you hate on Love yet want the QB that has been the literal definition of trash at the very same senior bowl practices?
Okay, then. We gave up a bust of a 1st round WR for JB; I’m opposed to spending a 1st or 2nd rounder on a QB that I think will bust...
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2 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
Kind of funny everyone trashing Jacoby this season but doesn’t want to take a QB at 13. We aren’t finding a franchise guy most likely after the first. The five QB who might be franchise QB will be gone at after the first most likely. So which is it. Do you want a new QB or not. The QB after the first aren’t looking to good.
Well, you never heard me trash JB. I personally still think that most on the board here will be sorely disappointed with how little we do to replace Brissett this year. The 2nd tier of QB in this draft is pretty crappy, and Love is fool’s gold IMO. Even as they were praising Love’s arm talent and athleticism at SB practices, Walterfootball called his lack of field vision a fatal weakness and indicated it wouldn’t be an easy fix. I really think that we build the lines, draft a 3rd tier QB with sleeper potential (Gordon, please), and try to run a running O with a QB that doesn’t make mistakes (unlike Love’s nearly 1:1 TD to Int ratio). Ballard probably likes JB in that kind of role, and he’ll hope Brissett looks more like his first 7 games...-
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I’ve been on the WR train for a while, since TY has been hurt the last two years and is over 30, no one else stepped up last year (with a heavy dose of the injury bug), and whatever QB we start in the future will need a #1 WR. However, I’m starting to identify Day 2 WRs that will help a lot, and this (Philly-style) O doesn’t require an alpha 1-on-1 dominator.
So, Ballard likes to build from the lines first - there are still some definite chinks there. Castonzo, even if he does return as I suspect he will, is a short-timer. And CB spent some energy last year searching for a 2nd NT, and Autry and Lewis didn’t impress anyone at the undertackle position.
I think we’re going to be after the best available NT or OT at #13. That would be either Kinlaw or Derrick Brown, if either falls there. If not, I’m starting to get intrigued by Mekhi Becton. At 6’8”, 369, he’s supposed to be freakishly nimble and mobile for his size, and he has massive length. Draft him, start him at RT this year, move Braden Smith to RG and Glowinski to the bench, and flop him to LT when Castonzo retires. All the while, slim him down to 340 or so...
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6 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:
The guy I’m looking at for the Colts is Pittman Jr. I think he’s what we wanted with Funchess. He’s big but has quick feet and runs excellent routes.
I’m starting to set my eyes on two SB risers: Van Jefferson and Denzel Mims...
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Funny, I believe it was walterfootball that reported that Anthony Gordon looked like a big work in progress... but PFF ranked him as his team’s top rated player at 77.4. Not sure what to believe...
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I believe he’s unmarried, and last I heard, living in an apartment with a dog. His family is his parents and sisters, so I’m not sure the “spending time with the family” motivation for retirement kicks in. My point is: the Colts and the OL are largely his band of brothers, and he’s finally on a high-performing line. Gotta be fun for him. I bet we can talk him into coming back for one year and mentoring his replacement...(wanogho?)
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I like your priorities... I’d be happy with something like this.
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Yeah, I almost see this as a positive also, helping him fall to us. The Raiders are snagging him one pick ahead of us in a lot of mocks that have him falling a little - Vegas, gotta scare them off a bit. Raiders seem to do their own thing too (Carlin Ferrell). Maybe they take Ruggs in homage to Al Davis. Seems like we have a pretty good locker room and coach to screw a partier’s head on right...
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For those who think of Ceedee Lamb as a possible faller to snatch at 13, there’s this from Walter football.com:
“Oklahoma wide receiver CeeDee Lamb is known to be a good kid, according to NFL scouts and to sources around the Sooners program. They all say he is a really nice person and a good teammate. With that being said, Lamb has developed the reputation for being a huge partier, and team sources feel that is going to be a challenge for him in maintaining focus depending on where he goes.
"[Lamb] definitely shouldn't go to a place like Miami, or Tampa Bay. That could be Michael Clayton all over again," said one scout. "I'll put it to you this way. He would be awesome in Green Bay."
Lamb is probably going to get get hit with a lot of questions about this during the combine and pre-draft interviews. Teams like him as a person, but depending on which team drafts him, it may want a plan in place to keep him focused on not partying too much in his down time.” -
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2 hours ago, Stephen said:
Gordon will probably go in round 2 at latest especially if he has good senior bowl practice
I got that same thing in the back of my mind too...
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1 hour ago, stitches said:
I kind of think of drafting a QB in round 3-4-5 as the worst possible option.
Yeah, I’ve got Gordon in the third right now. Watch the EWS this weekend - there’s a riser named James Morgan at Florida Int’l that’s getting some head turns at practice. 6’4”, 213. Unimpressive college stats, but seemed to be a running O. Captain Morgan...hmmmm...those letters could start coming from sea...-
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55 minutes ago, stitches said:
If we don't, we are likely not going to get a QB in this draft.
Point well taken. But that only refers to Round 1. If CB likes someone a little later in the draft, it’s doable without a trade... -
I’m very far into the lennyMoore camp on all these QBs (though I really don’t know what to think of Fromm). I think that Gordon is slowly rising as the draftniks review these QBs’ tape. Those mock draft apps are starting to have him gone sometimes before our 4th round pick, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Ballard will have to decide if he’s worthy of a 2nd round pick by the time the draft comes.
His throwing motion is trippy - you can only describe it as a snap. No wind up, no warning, it’s just out as soon as he decides to throw it. It’s probably why some scouting reports say he doesn’t have good arm strength - his normal motion on the short to medium throws doesn’t allow him to put much power behind it...-
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4 hours ago, zibby43 said:We've discussed the positives with Love: mobility, arm talent, size, etc.Need to discuss the negatives, too. And there are plenty of big red flags on his 2019 tape that transcend the lack of talent around him. Two of those red flags that keep popping up are: 1) inadequate processing/understanding of coverages (something that will get substantially tougher at the NFL level) and 2) locking onto his first read (something Jacoby suffers from).
This perfectly states what I feel about Love. His upside is going to bid him up too far, and there may be a winner’s curse...-
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21 minutes ago, MPStack said:
Anyways, I seriously doubt Ballard doesn’t address the QB position by either drafting a QB early, signing a good veteran or combination of both.
Yeah, I think there are just two separate opinions on Love and Eason at this draft. I’d be all for drafting JB’s successor if the right guy was available to us. I just don’t like them as a decent value at #34, much less #13. I don’t see CB forcing things if the value’s not there. And I don’t see a franchise coming to us in FA. JB showed enough pre-injury that I’d rather give him another shot than bring in a washed up veteran like Rivers or Brady. We forget that it’s hard to find a franchise QB if we don’t have one, and missing on a bold move can hamstring a team for three years or more. A bold move might be what it takes, but I just don’t think Love or Eason are the guy... -
Just now, Chloe6124 said:
So was Mahomes taken to high because he had to sit a year.
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I keep thinking that the guys available to us early aren’t particularly good values. I like Love’s upside, but his chances of getting there anytime soon is way below average for a first or second rounder. A lot of work to do with him. Same for Eason. I think CB is gonna assess it that way. My sense of CB is that he’ll stick with Brissett, take a good look at Kelly, probably add a mid-round QB, and reassess next season...
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On 1/10/2020 at 8:56 AM, Shive said:
He's a game manager at best and of the QB's in this draft have a much higher ceiling that JB: Burrow, Tua, Herbert, and Love easily have a higher ceiling with not much of a lower floor than JB.
I was really only referring to QBs available to us, and Love and Eason do have higher ceilings. But it’s less than 50/50 that they reach those ceilings, and it’d be long roads to get there...
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I like him better than I like Love, and if we had Curtis Painter as our starter I’d target Eason at the top of the 2nd as an instant upgrade. However, I don’t think any QBs available in this draft have a future much better than Brissett’s first seven games of this year. I’d rather coach up JB next year, and take a mid-round shot to strengthen the position in case we get the JB of the second half of this season...
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15 hours ago, DougDew said:
I think there is more deeper talent in the WR position than the DT position, so I would flip rounds 1 and 2 with players of commensurate value. DT Kinlaw in the first.
Double dipping on OL, and with fairly high picks? I assume you have questions about AC's longevity.
I don’t disagree with you about the WR position - I keep reading about how historically good the WR position is this year. I just can’t seem to identify a guy in the 2nd round with a decent chance of becoming a really high-end, consistently productive WR. Outside of Round 1, I like Gabriel Davis and Tyler Johnson, but I’m not sure what they bring to the table that we don’t already have in Fountain (of whom I’m a big fan), Pascal, etc. Ruggs has blinding speed and a down the field resume (which TY can’t provide as much any more)...
As for the OL, I couldn’t believe how poor our OL depth was on the final 53 this year. We only kept 8, and Clark and Andrews looked very poor in preseason against 2nd and 3rd teamers. We got lucky and no one on our line missed a start, but that happens once every twenty years. If we had to go deeper than Haeg, we woulda been hurting. So, I really wanted to add a potential successor to AC, who would be a good swing tackle in the meantime. Really concerned about OL depth....
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46 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Haven't we seen this movie before?
Who would that be, Dorestt?
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2 hours ago, WarGhost21 said:
As for the draft, I'm not too high on Ruggs, and really hope CeeDee Lamb is their instead, but I'd be happy with either as they are both quality weapons. I also do like Gallimore, but don't know enough about the rest of these players yet to fairly judge. Either way, it's always a treat to look at your mocks, so well done and I can't wait for more of them!
Yeah, I’m a Lamb guy too. I don’t think he’ll be there for us. My main goal is to give JB enough at the position to accurately assess him as a QB, and hopefully have that person be our future #1. As loaded as this WR class is supposed to be, I’ve still had trouble identifying that prospect that fits what we need (a PRODUCTIVE #2 who can grow into a #1 role). I fell in love with Devonta Smith, but then he decided to stay in school. So, in the end, I felt Ruggs was a good enough athlete to become a plus route runner. It is a slight projection on athletic traits, I guess, but it’s not like he’s been UNproductive....
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I’m getting pretty convinced about Herbert. He’s going to be good. I think Ballard would be more likely to trade up for Herbert than to sit at 13 or 34 and take Love (who will be vastly over drafted because of an upside that he likely won’t even come close to). Anyway, you can drive yourself nuts trying to figure out what teams are interested in what players, as many visits, rumors, and actions are orchestrated to confuse or deceive other teams. All you end up with is an unreliable guess...