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    another argument added to the manning luck comparison today

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    You can't be serious?

    Manning at this point in his career had players like Edge, Marvin Harrison, Jeff Saturday, Marcus Pollard, Kent Dilger and soon after Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and Dwight Freeney. And yet he was losing 42-0 in the Wildcard round of the playoffs to the lowly New York Jets while in his 5th year in the league!

    The Colts of the earlier 2000s were a more talented roster than this current group. (Remember Reggie Wayne's not playing.)

    The difference here is Luck. PERIOD.

    Clark and Freeney were not part of the Colts at this point in Peyton's career and neither was Reggie.

    You're giving way to much credit to Luck. Last year the Colts were giving up roughly 19ppg last year in their 11 wins. In their losses? 25+ ppg and coincidentally those were Lucks toilet games.

    So case in point the Colts have a playoff victory within their first two years and 22 victories yet the 99'/00' Colts had 16 victories.

    Peyton had the better team? Rrrriighhhht

    The refs have to call pick plays

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    KC got at least two big gains (one TD) on clear cut pick plays where one receiver knocked down the DB covering someone else...

    The TV announcers saw it although they were afraid to call it what it was

    I thought the refs looked right at it and didn't see it..

    ....You cant stop the top passing teams if that play is allowed...

    Our coaches need to (and probably will) send some clips top the league office so refs are reminded that is clearly offensive pass interference

    Thank YOU! They did it AT LEAST 3 times.. Hell, on one, the WRs were blocking before Smith had even thrown the ball and right in front of the ref in the middle of the field. Fasano and Bowe completely cleared out 2 DBs and a LB on another before the RB ever had the ball. Even Mayock commented on it, and how the Chiefs were getting away with it.

    We won the game but the blatant pick plays and the missed false start on the Chiefs last drive were HORRIBLE no-calls on the refs part.

    wade Phillips out in Houston.

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    Wade didn't have much success in Big D or Houston. With the talent level the Texans have, it's difficult to understand. A team many thought were SB contenders prior to the start of the season, to lose 14 games, to me means a new coach should clean out the coaching staff and start from scratch.

    They've been a top-5 D the years he's been in Houston. This year their points allowed are skewed because of all the pick-6s their QBs have had. They were the top team in yards allowed this year. He's been fine as their DC and I would take him.

    Who do you hope the Texans draft with the #1 pick ?

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    No i didn't because it didn't make any sense. Geno didn't carve anyone up (which you seemed to be implying). He threw bubble screens and let his WRs do his work.

    The two aren't even comparable.

    Bubble screens were few and far between. Pettis and Austin ran a TON of rub routes and crossing patterns over the middle of the field. YAC was their intention but to

    simply think bubble screens was all threw, nice try. Bridgewater has done nothing but throw these same exact routes the majoriry of his time at Louisville.. Parker, Copeland, and Perry have all been used in the same manner as Pettis and Austin were.

    Who do you hope the Texans draft with the #1 pick ?

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    So when guys from Maryland and Miami of Ohio win Superbowls, how does the conference matter?

    Drew Brees went to Purdue.

    Joe Flacco Maryland

    Ben Rothlesburger Miami of Ohio

    Andy Dalton went to BYU

    Alex Smith went to Utah

    Projecting quarterbacks is probably the only position where the conference means absolutely nothing. Bridgewater is the best QB in this draft class.

    Flacco went to Delaware and Dalton went to TCU. Dalton and Flacco have peaked. Flacco and BigBen BOTH went to two of the top defensive teams in the NFL. NEITHER are players you build a team around.

    Alex Smith - game manager taken #1..

    Oddly Drew Brees, who played in a tougher conference than ALL of those QB's, has a Rose Bowl victory and IS a top 3 QB. What a F'n coincidence.

    Tom Brady? BIG Ten..

    Peyton Manning? SEC

    Aaron Rodgers? Pac 12 - who I think is the weakest of the big conferences.

    The QBs you listed are all game managers at BEST and coincidentally from smaller schools. You don't think San Fran would like to go back and have that number one they wasted on Alex Smith? Or how about Houston with their pick of David Carr because he played great his senior year at Fresno?

    Still think conferences don't matter? If you want a game manager, sure pick whatever decent QB you want, but if your wanting a true franchise QB the big conferences are the way to go especially if you're going to spend a top 5 pick.

    Who do you hope the Texans draft with the #1 pick ?

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    You seem to find a way to downplay the guy even when your claim of not facing any quality opponents was debunked in the Florida game.  That was one of the best defenses in the country that year, especially on third down.  They were known for defense, Bridgewater had no problem going up and down the field on that D for the entire game.  Don't try to make an excuse for them being gassed later on.  They were getting beat from the very start of the game.

     

    1 game!?! In which I said he had a decent game. I believe Florida's offense had 7 drives of 5 plays or less resulting in either a turnover or punt - yep that has no effect on a defense. Do the Colts games this year with St. Louis and Arizona ring a bell? 3 extra possessions and 38 minutes time of possession and still only won by 10. Hats off to that Louisville defense if anything.

     

    Even if it was Kentucky it's still better than some of what he saw in his conference.  Please tell us how he runs a Pro Style offense with NFL style throws built into it, but he never or rarely made any NFL throws?  There are very few that question his arm strength or accuracy.  Just say you don't like the guy and you don't have a valid reason for doing so.

     

    Only Beating Miami(OH) and Alabama State would rank them right in there. Where does the conclusion that pro-style offense means pro-style throws? How many hash mark to outside sideline throws has the guy seriously had to attempt, especially to a covered receiver. He's has the benefit of his receivers getting open for him to make the open throw, but rarely do you see him fitting the ball between defenders because he hasn't been tested enough there. He will get help if he is drafted by the Texans with Johnson and Hopkins, along with a great line, but in the NFL that doesn't mean anything. I'd take the lowest ranking NFL defense over ANY elite college defense. That's what Teddy will be lining up against. 

     

    He's a hype machine, and I hope he proves me wrong, but my whole point is how is this guy considered a top-5 pick when Russell Wilson, who had very similar passing statistics, doesn't go until the middle of the draft? I don't hate the guy, but he's getting elite status for having not really proved anything. Again, no way I waste a top-5 pick on him nor Manziel.

    Who do you hope the Texans draft with the #1 pick ?

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    Bucky Brooks gives a pretty good breakdown of Bridgewater on NFL.com

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000307451/article/film-room-teddy-bridgewater-primed-to-be-next-great-qb-in-nfl

     

     

    "After watching Teddy Bridgewater -- who declared he intends to enter the 2014 NFL Draft on New Year's Day -- close out his career in superb fashion in the Russell Athletic Bowl, I'm not only convinced that he is a franchise player, but he is the crown jewel of the 2014 quarterback class. While I know that several anonymous scouts have reportedly voiced opinions counter to that assessment, I believe Bridgewater will be the next great quarterback to enter the NFL. "

     

    Hrmmm... Scouts see differently than Bucky Brooks. Shocking! Who would you be lead to believe?

    Who do you hope the Texans draft with the #1 pick ?

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    Bridgewater is absolutely nothing like Geno Smith.  Bridgewater is much better than Smith.

    Have you seen Bridgewater against SEC and ACC competition?  Bridgewater has done well against 

    them all including this latest blow out of Miami.  Also the blowout of Florida in last years bowl

    game.  He's also beaten Kentucky which is an SEC team.  

     

    Where exactly are we getting the data from to say that Bridgewater is going to be a bust?  There's very little evidence other than to sit and say "Oh he played against a soft schedule". Who exactly was Ben Rothlesberger playing when he came out of Miami of Ohio? I'm sure there were a lot of studs on that schedule.  Bridgewater is very talented and he knows what he's doing out there. Very accurate and intelligent pocket passer who runs only when he has to. If the Texans select Bridgewater they will be on the right track.

    Much better? Smith played against arguably better secondaries in the BIG 12. and still out paced him.

     

    haha Kentucky? Kentucky is the worst team in the SEC. Miami, once they started hitting their conference, was giving up over 40 points and 500 yards a game the last half of the season. MIami wasn't anything special. Florida had 3 turnovers, and still only lost by 10 - that's not a blowout. Bridgewatrer had a decent game, but that defense was gassed by the end of the half because the offense couldn't do anything. The guy rarely makes any NFL-type throws. Memphis and CIncy, yes the two best defenses he played this year gave him fits by not letting him step up in his throws and limiting his movement. Cincinatti and Memphis?!? Crossing patterns and screens while leaning on YAC from his receivers just aren't going to be there as much as they were in college. He's got an average arm, and is a second slow in getting his guys the ball, again that works against inferior secondaries, but the NFL is going to exploit him just like it did Geno. 

     

    Roethlisberger went to a perennial top-5 defense that gave him a plethora of extra possessions yet the guy has 3 4000 yards seasons in 10 years. It took him almost 5 years, with an OC who wanted to air it out all of the time, before he was even a top-15 QB. Can you imagine Peyton or Andrew with a perennial top-5 defense and tons of extra possessions? That Pittsburgh team lived and died with that defense, not Roethlisberger, and its clearly dying now. Flacco? Same guy, same tune, different team. There is no way I would pay either QB 100M+ for having rode the coattails of an awesome defense, nor would I waste high draft pick on either. Teddy is going to walk into the same situation with Houston, a very good team that's needing a few pieces. I can't say I blame the guy, but if I were a GM, I'm not drafting a guy who's proved very little and hope he turns into a good QB, in my offense with a top-5, 10, 20 pick. 

     

    I guess I'm just not seeing the hype in the guy like everyone else is.

    Vontae Davis The Best Ever?

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    Funny how that worked out. Coaching made all the difference for him. I remember how he used to get abused on the field and then on these boards.

    ??? He's still not good. Quit looking at just his stats. I believe 7 of his 8 interceptions last year were uncontested by the receiver. Had Luck not badly underthrown 2 balls last year in the Chicago game Jennings would have been burnt bad both times.

    Vontae Davis The Best Ever?

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    I've been a fan since day 1 of the Colts arrival in Indy and Davis is without doubt one of the top CB's the Colts have had since being here. BTW, Hayden, Jackson, Harper, and Buchanon aren't even in Davis' ballpark as far as talent. Davis has had some shakey games but it's due to injury.

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one to laugh at the names listed and think they even come close to that of Davis'. Hell, I would take Butler and Toler as well over any past corners the Colts have had.

    Who do you hope the Texans draft with the #1 pick ?

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    Four months ago, the Texans were listed by ESPN as having one of the most talented rosters in the NFL.

    This is what happens when your team gets wiped out by injuries or bad QB play, or both. But there is considerable talent on that roster.

    Put another way, this is not a typical 2-14 team. Just the way KC had the worst record last year and Reid knew just how good a roster that was.... Same for Texas.... give them the right HC and get them a decent QB, and they could be in the hunt for the post season next year.

    Just a different perspective......

    Cushing and Foster were their only real losses, that I can think of. Schaub's play was a detriment, but their coaching staff seemed to take a step back as well. I still don't agree with firing Kubiak when they did. Let the guy finish the season. There was nothing more to lose by doing so.

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