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I'm not even sure that ball hit the ground, every replay they show on NFL network doesn't show the ball on the ground.
Regardless, I believe he had the catch and made a football move towards the end zone, so, I don't like the call.
Go look at the clip posted above. For simplicity here it is again: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000456759/Did-Dez-catch-it
You can see the ball react to hitting the ground and hitting the ground. His hand is on the side a little bit to the top of the ball. The ball clearly hits the ground without his hand under it.
Here is Blandino's comments about why the rule applies: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/12/blandino-stands-by-overturning-dez-bryant-catch/
“Is Bryant going to the ground to make the catch?” Blandino said on PFT Live. “It’s clear. He’s stumbling. . . . Then we have to look to see, does the ball touch the ground? Which it clearly did, and it came loose after it touched the ground. . . . The last part which was discussed is did he make a football move? . . . Looking at it, he didn’t.”
Blandino said Bryant lunging forward toward the goal line is not the kind of overt act a player needs to make in order to be seen as making a “football move.”
“There’s judgment involved in all of these plays,” Blandino said. “We felt it was indisputable that’s not what Bryant did. He was just trying to gain control of it.”
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Stats only tell so much, sure. But no matter how you slice it, Rodgers has never had as good of a season, so the only way you get him to that level is by making excuses for Rodgers or against Manning. In the end, players are judged by the numbers. Yeah, they throw in unquantifiable things in there like "living in the opposing teams backfield," and "picked defenses apart" and what not. But when you hear about greatest achievements, the people who disagree with it are saying how so and so had a better supporting cast or had Manning been on the Patriots back then... Crap like that. It's fun fodder, but ni the end, the numbers are what they are and that's what generally separates one player from another. Superbowl rings are a different beast altogether, and I don't really care to go there right now. It's a bad argument for those who disagree and a good argument for those that do.
Numbers lie.
A poor running team that relies too heavily on the pass can put enormous numbers up for a QB and not end up winning where it is important, in the playoffs.
A team with a poor defense can put the pressure on a QB to constantly throw the ball to try to hang in the game.
You can have have magnificent numbers in a game and still lose the game.
A GREAT QB needs to have the talent to be able to put up the numbers, or be willing to execute the game plan that gets the win, whatever it may be. The key is the desire to advance the team.
Hence also the biggest untruth - the win or loss is always about the QB.
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Here is the entire catch, not just the ball hitting the ground: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000456759/Did-Dez-catch-it
As I look at it, he isn't actually making 3 big steps after the catch, he's falling to the ground and his legs are still moving. He is only vertical for the first step and is falling more with each following step. The ball isn't secured until somewhere near the end of the 2nd step and the beginning of the 3rd step at which point it is in one hand and pops out the moment it hits the ground. The fact he's "going to the ground" in the process of the catch is what triggers the "must maintain possession all the way to the ground" part of the rule.
It's hard to argue that he made three steps as a football move, when the ball hasn't yet been secured until the third step.
Even his extension to the goal line isn't that pronounced, it is a slight stretch.
AGAIN I hate the rule and want to see it changed (but have no idea what it should be changed to). I don't have a dog in the fight so I'm not prejudiced one way or the other.
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Fact not withstanding even if both are healthy Rodgers is better than Peyton as of the last several seasons, too. He's the best QB in the game by a mile so it shouldn't be surprising he still finds ways to get it done.
I don't disagree with your judgment, but the point I was making is a younger QB vs an older QB - not arguing who is best that is an endless and often pointless discussion. Change the names and the points I made are equally true.
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The rules already allow for the ball to hit the ground as long as you are in full control and aren't using the ground to complete the catch. If your hands are securely wrapped around the ball and it touches the ground, they will look for any movement, bobbling, shifting of it.
When a ball pops up into the air because it hit the ground that's the very definition of losing control and it's dead the moment it hit the ground.
Hate the Calvin Johnson rule and would like them to rework it, but this play was called according to the rule.
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Here it comes. The post one and done excuses.
Yeah, agreed.
Here's my vantage point, Rodgers is playing with a severe injury, but because he is young and is at the peak of his physical strength and prowess, he is finding a way to pull it off. He can't do it all, but he can change his game enough to play hurt and still get the job done.
The more hits a QB takes, the more easily the next hit knocks them for a loop. He was hit a few times where you could see him physically reacting to that pain. I believe that's the point that Peyton has reached. In worker's compensation underwriting terminology (I worked as an underwriter's assistant when I was young) it's called "cumulative trauma." No one shot takes you out, but the build up of many hits over the course of a season and/or career.
The older athlete doesn't recover as quickly not only from injury but from the physical demands of a normal game or practice, loses 1/2 a step so they can't escape the hit as well, and their reflexes are a fraction of a second slower. The difference between NFL football's best and the average Joe is measured in fractions of a second. The Defense you're facing every year is significantly younger than you are. They are stronger, faster, hungrier and hungry to take down a legend...
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Having watched the game where he injured it and the strange sequence where he was pulled out to go into the locker room and then we were told he wouldn't play the second half and then he did... We knew something was up. My guess is he had them shoot it full of pain killers to finish the game. In a torn muscle scenario, it can't have been good that he continued playing on it.
It would be very sad if his not coming out of the game, ultimately led to the loss in the playoffs and even potentially the end of his career. That's where people on the team have to think more than the "next game," and be a check on the warrior instinct in the great competitors.
Rivers is like this too and I fear he could one day be in the same boat because of his willingness to play at all costs.
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I am willing to bet that Dallas fans will be complaining about this overturned call and that the irony will be lost on them.
My dear niece is a Dallas fan and is dropping f-bombs all over the net and completely and utterly denying the irony ;)
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I hate that rule, but it was correctly called. Hate that the game ended on it as it was a good game.
On a brighter note, Davante Adams was spectacular today. He was a Fresno State Bulldog so we saw him develop. Most people don't realize that he's only the equivalent of a Junior in college right now. He took off early knowing that Carr was leaving and there was no QB in the wings worth risking your future on.
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There was an article posted in another thread about him doing this, it was more informative
I missed that, I'll have to look for it
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Just saw this and really enjoyed the article. I love when guys take the time to affect the lives of our soldiers and their families:
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Just straighten up and strategically place a helmet where it can do the most damage and see how often it happens!
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I could have picked that one and I'm old and slow!!!!
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Watching their game last week was painful... hard to believe either of those teams were in the playoffs when better teams weren't. But that's every year.
Ugggghhhhh 89 yard pick 6. Cam's throwing wind up is so slow and predictable let alone his staring down receivers.
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Carolina is running out of gas. Too bad, would have loved them to knock off Seattle, LOL!
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At the time risk of being gang tackled by my Colts' fan friends... Billy Volek?
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He's such a great competitor, team mate and man. We've really been blessed to have him. He mentors the young guys. He's an example in every way.
I hope he's back for one more. Even though his numbers didn't show it so much, he was an integral part of the D and quite valuable. The hurried throws, near misses and QBs looking over their shoulder for him don't always make it to the stat sheet.
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Stupid. Money doesn't mean enough to these guys, a playoff game AND a threat of next time X # of games, might make him think before doing something nasty the next time.
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I'm going to express what will likely be a very non-PC opinion.
I think teams and fans that judge purely on titles are foolish. Are titles important, no doubt. Are the the ultimate goal, no doubt. Are they easy to obtain, obviously not. Judging a QB or a coach only by the final destination completely discounts the number and impact of injuries (yes, they do make a difference). While not the "ultimate" achievement, going deep in the playoffs is something only the best teams do. It takes luck to make the Super Bowl and sometimes luck to win the Super Bowl. It also takes talent, and talent that performs up to their potential.
An old saying that is very true: "When you win (as a coach or a qb) you get more credit than you deserve and when you lose you take more blame than you deserve."
If a well-coached team has one team member that makes a bone-headed play that costs a championship, some of you would blame the coach. The coach gets a team prepared to play but the humanity of the player can blow the opportunity. I think it was 2006, AFC Championship round between the Chargers and the Patriots. Chargers make an interception that could seal the game and a player who shall never be named decides to run the ball out of the end zone and fumbles it back to the Patriots who go on to win the game and go to the Super Bowl. That situation had been very recently discussed by the coaches with the team. The player didn't stop and draw on the coaching he had been given and he cost a potential SB appearance. Coaches are not Gods, they're mentors. The ultimate competitor is the player(s).
If a team makes the playoffs consistently and goes past the first round on a consistent basis, I believe you are foolish to tear up an organization rather than tweak it.
A coach is only going to be as good as the players the front office procures for him. A great coach can be hampered by a poor GM or owner. I don't know enough about SF to know how their drafts have gone and what he had to work with. It seems like a philosophical difference/personality difference is the main issue. Not sure firing the coach in that circumstance is what needs to happen *See Marty Schottenheimer & AJ Smith feud*
Look at the statistics of teams that routinely replace coaching staffs, it's really bad. Look at the Raiders as a prime example, 20 years of the merry-go-round has left them deep in the wilderness.
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Nothing unintentional about it on the second step, lifting up his other foot and putting his entire weight on him. If you feel something under your foot is it your instinctive reaction to put more weight on it or do you lift the foot?
I despise the character of a guy like that and I don't say that lightly.
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Says the disgruntled Chargers fan. Stop whining.
It was a comment more about our o-line than him. Not whining, those that know me know I never whine. It's flat out the truth. He lucked into the 22 sacks, if he played a team with a better line (virtually anyone) he wouldn't likely have gotten them. I'm not taking anything away from how hard he played, it was just a cake walk because we stunk.
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He had a great year, but today's sacks were over the top of a rookie center with his first start, a rookie right guard with his first start and third string rt. He lucked into this one to finish his season with such great numbers. We gave up 7 sacks, geesh...
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Oh boy, that stinks for Green Bay! Tough QB season
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the chiefs aren't in the playoffs
Duh!!! I had a Dork moment, call it being still in shock. They CERTAINLY can't go far if they're not in it
Peyton Manning played past month with a torn quad
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Which is why I will never get involved in the GOAT discussions or comparing two different qbs. It's a futile discussion that wastes a lot of time and energy.