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Ok 2 and 2 for his 2 1Q wins lol. A starting pitcher wouldn’t get a win for three innings but I guess FB players officially get wins for that lol. So false on my part. But I stand by the point. Sure defenses fear AR more.

Ok then they need to tank. They gotta get a rookie great QB right away to defray Wilson’s dead whale of a sunken contract. He doesn’t appear any better.

I'm not sure of anything when it comes to CFB QBs and their NFL prospects, but he does seem to be the universally most liked prospect at least since Lawrence, and maybe since Luck really. Thats doesn't mean he's going to pan out and I'm sure he has flaws, but he is well thought of around FB circles to this point. None of the QBs in last year's draft were thought of as highly as this guy is right now. Not really close the way I remember it.

It's ugly as sin over there. No 1st or 2nd round talent last year or this year and I think he has north of 100 mill guaranteed coming his way. That is just as bad a situation as you get. Unless Wilson has a resurgance, it seems difficult to even fathom how they get out of that mess. Even if you do strike Gold on a QB say in next years' draft in the 3rd or later ala Wilson, Brady, Prescott, you still arent' going to have money to pay anyone with Wilson's money and it will be at least 2025 until they have a real chance to draft their own impact talent.

Something like, "Well Anthony, since you won't be playing again this year . . ." The thing I was saying about the other injuries is there really isn't a choice. You either repair them or you can't play NFL level football in most cases. With ARs situation, apparently it's not cut and dried. Shoulders are complex. When you use the shouder to throw footballs for a living, then the stakes are pretty hight. The risk/reward factor here must be muddled, but I think you and others have said, that surely Ole Jimmy didn't jump the gun on this one. My guess is that they are prepping him to be worked on.

Well man the reality we Colts fans are just now waking up to has been one that many franchises have had in their faces for my lifetime. It's not normal to be a fan of a team with a great QB.

Why? He didn't win ANY games lol.

I would just say that GM has never been turnover prone. His arm strength is the issue. Sunday he had 25% of his total turnovers for his career. He has 50 TDs combined v. 20 total TOs for his career which is excellent. Arm talent wise, he's not there and doesn't have the wheels to compensate for it, but Sunday was anamolous in the TO department.

It's a very unfavorable spot to be in unless AR develops into being high level NFL QB. The Hell of mediocrity. We've been in it for almost a decade now, so we should be used to it.

I agree about our schedule. It looks very weak.

Tanking for what though? They don't own their 1st or 2nd rounder next year. If they are tanking it would be for the highest 3rd rounder possible lol.

He's also out of position. He's not big enough to play that position in the NFL. This is different than playing Flus Will.

Wow no ACLs. Just read a little about that. Don't remember hearing about it. Article said everything else compensated for it. I doubt that is the preferred way to go about becoming an NBA player though. Article said they tried to repair them in HS and they deteriorated and his body compensated for it. You can do all kinds of stuff with torn ACLs. Those really don't need to be repaired in most cases for everyday life, but with the exception of Dejuan Blair apparently, they tend to come in handy for pro athletes. My question really is how much influence is the club allowed on this type of thing? In ARs case, he is a young dude and if it's up to him, who knows what he would choose. I certainly don't pretend to understand anything about why or why not surgery here, but using basic reasoning skills like you have concluded that the surgery prospect/effectiveness is not clear.

We scored 14 points dude on offense and had less than 300 yds. So his influence wasn't all that immense lol.

Because they say so.

That's in the ball park of what I'm speculating. It's not like a clear cut surgery is necessary type of deal. Or that it will even be helpful. I hope he gets it fixed, but I do know shoulder surgeries can be tricky and can be somewhat risky. That said I know nothing about his specific injury or possible surgery. Do you have any idea what the teams' prerogative is on procedures? Obviously, the patient has rights. I've wondered there must be a forfeiture of privacy rights with the injury lists etc. But like if you had an MRI that showed a torn ACL, and opted "not to have surgery" knowing that there is now way a torn ACL can spontaneously heal, would club be obligated to pay any remaining money on the guaranteed portion of the contract. Or does the club have some legal standing to expect the player get the procedure before being obligated to pay remaining guaranteed money?

How do you figure? We scored 14 offensive points with AR in v. the Jags. I mean we lost by 7 more this week than the first time at their stadium. I'm not seeing what you are suggesting.

Now I think you will agree with me, that your post being said now and clearly out in the open . . . Feel free to speculate on this open forum Colts message board dedicated to discussing Colts FB. But yeah when you argue against someone's speculations with speculations, I guess you are speculatively speculating but somehow not really speculating? I've never really go it lol.

QBR is quite a lot. It's calculated differently by different sites, but when you look at a list of the QBRs, it seems pretty accurate.

For the record, I meant only slightly. I've never really thought of this team as a 500 or so club. They have had some good results so, so I hope to be wrong about that. That performance Sunday was statistically the worst of his career, a game in which he accrued 25 percent of his career total in TOs lol. The Jags are really just better than us all over the field though IMO. Even when they were bad and we were good a couple of years ago in the JT season they ended our season famously, but even the game at Indy before that that I attended, they played better than us and that was during the best spell we've had since the early Luck years. We were rolling along and they outplayed us badly after the 1st Q. We haven't matched well with them in a few years now IMO.

Yeah, watch that play again. He goes down really hard on the point of that shoulder with the full weight of the LB coming down on his top shoulder. Yeah, shoulders are tricky. Hopefully, the kid will heal and be ready to go at some point. Anyone I've know that has had shoulder surgery has said it really sucks, something about it being above the heart, and blood flow being less causing longer recovery. I'm sure there are easier surgeries than others, but the 3 guys I personally know had a rough time with it. If he is going to have the surgery, I hope they get this thing going.

Now this is Jim Irsay we are talking about here though, not just any owner lol. It looks like to me that AR is being given options, some which include surgery and some that do not. It looks like to me it's up to him ie. it's not clear that it will help him or is necessary like it would be for a torn UCL, or ACL, or Achilles. Surely though ole Jimmy knows something here. But dude really likes to tweet or I guess it's X now.

Yeah, but really? AR left with a 7 points lead v. Hou and we won by 11 and he left with a 4 point lead v. Tenn and we won by 7 so looking at it from your logic, Minshew increased the leads he was left with both times. Plus you are talking Minshew coming in during the 1st Q or early 2nd Q. Minshew played around 6 of the 8 Qs in those two wins. The lion's share of the work in both of those wins was from GM.

His shoulders stacked and that can be bad. He looked really bad walking off the field. Kinda like a guy headed for surgery.