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3 hours ago, chad72 said:
Now, we are in direct competition with the Texans for the #3 draft pick. If we beat the Texans to go 2-0 head-to-head and the Giants lose again, we end up with the #4 draft pick. Thus, the Texans, who will probably not need a QB like us, would be in the same boat as us, for teams wanting to trade up.
Say, for giggles, we sweep the Texans and get the #4 pick, do you guys think it is more advantageous with teams wanting to move up because they will have to give up less to move up to the #4 pick, and thus gives the holder of the #4 pick a greater chance to trade down?
Something to think about.
3 hours ago, jskinnz said:I am amazed you have not caught this. The Colts are locked in at no worse than # 3. They cannot slide to # 4.
jskinnz is correct.
Colts are picking either 2nd or third, and if the Giants lose then it won't matter what we do, because it would lock us in at the #3 spot.
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4 hours ago, jskinnz said:
Haven't you seen enough of coaches denying such reports only to see the report be proven true once the season ends?
There is too much smoke here for there not to be a fire.
Did someone hack your account? Not a response I would expect from you.
I think if Arians does leave Arizona then he will retire.
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8 hours ago, IinD said:
Recent history of overall #3's just for fun..
Year Name Team Round Pick Player Position College 2017 Solomon Thomas 49ers 1 3 3 DE Stanford 2016 Joey Bosa Chargers 1 3 3 DE Ohio State 2015 Dante Fowler Jaguars 1 3 3 LB Florida 2014 Blake Bortles Jaguars 1 3 3 QB Central Florida 2013 Dion Jordan Dolphins 1 3 3 DE Oregon 2012 Trent Richardson Browns 1 3 3 RB Alabama 2011 Marcell Dareus Bills 1 3 3 DT Alabama 2010 Gerald McCoy Buccaneers 1 3 3 DT Oklahoma 2009 Tyson Jackson Chiefs 1 3 3 DE Louisiana State 2008 Matt Ryan Falcons 1 3 3 QB Boston College 2007 Joe Thomas Browns 1 3 3 T Wisconsin 2006 Vince Young Titans 1 3 3 QB Texas 2005 Braylon Edwards Browns 1 3 3 WR Michigan 2004 Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals 1 3 3 WR Pittsburgh 2003 Andre Johnson Texans 1 3 3 WR Miami (FL) 2002 Joey Harrington Lions 1 3 3 QB Oregon 2001 Gerard Warren Browns 1 3 3 DT Florida 2000 Chris Samuels Redskins 1 3 3 T Some big hits and big misses there.
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I don't think there is any truth to the story.
Arians called it "fake news".
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If we end up batting third then a trade-back still makes perfect sense.
If all these quarterbacks enter the draft, they are going to be highly fought after. I think at least 5 quarterbacks are easily going in the first round, and possibly even 4 of them of them very early.
http://footballdungeon.com/2017/12/duane-livelys-2018-mock-draft-0-5/
3 New York Jets – TRADE Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State The Indianapolis Colts trade the 3rd overall pick to the New York Jets for the 7th, 38th, and 73rd pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. Mason Rudolph is the quarterback hardly anyone is talking about, but his Peyton Manning like intelligence, work ethic, and professional demeanor will change all of that soon enough. 7 Indianapolis Colts – TRADE Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame The Colts need a lot of help, and a trade-back makes perfect sense here. It’s hard to win games when your quarterback is getting sacked, and you have no answer on the other side of the ball. A couple of the acquired picks from trading back will be used to bolster the pass rush. The Colts have to keep Andrew Luck upright, because they are very close to blowing it, and ruining a generation quarterback. -
Weeks 16 and 17, for the Indianapolis Colts, can be summed up in the thread title.
Cleveland is locked in at number one. Nothing can change that now. Only two teams (Giants and Colts) have a shot at the second and third picks in the 2018 NFL draft. If the Giants lose out then they will retain the second overall pick. If the Giants win the final game, and the Colts lose the final game then the Colts will have the second pick in the draft.
Both the Giants and Colts play next Sunday, in the early afternoon window of week 17.
Texans at Colts
Redskins at Giants
It is possible for the Colts to sweep the Houston Texans, and for both teams to finish the season with identical records (4-12), yet the Colts would still have the better draft position. The Houston Texans first round pick belongs to the Cleveland Browns. So in all likelihood, the Browns will own two of the of the top five picks in the draft. The Colts will finish either 3-13 or 4-12, and can pick no lower than third.
PICK
TEAM
WINS
LOSSES
WIN%
SOS
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Cleveland
0
15
0.000
0.515
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NY Giants
2
13
0.133
0.532
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Indianapolis
3
12
0.200
0.485
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First tie breaker is strength of schedule.
I have given this a lot of thought lately, and if the Colts beat the Texans twice and end with the same record, but still pick in front of the them (Texans-Browns pick), then we could possible see a tweak to the rule in coming seasons.
That said, other teams that finish with the same record should not be impacted by rules other than strength of schedule, so using strength of schedule as a deciding factor might be the only fair solution. Had Houston not traded the pick to Cleveland then I am sure this story would get a lot more attention.
Maybe Houston pulls off a miracle against Pittsburgh, and it kills the conversation. Maybe Houston beats us. Who knows. It does appear the Colts and Texans will end the season having identical records, with the Colts beating the Texans twice, and the Colts having the better draft position.
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I think we should give all the Colts history before 1984 to the Ravens.
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If Kraft ever chooses Brady over Belichick then we better never hear about Jim Irsay's past drug issues again, because the biggest drug story of all time would belong to New England. It would take a magic cocktail to make someone that stupid.
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I am out guys and gals.
#Colts2018!
Merry Christmas everyone!
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5 minutes ago, IinD said:
At least we only have to stomach one more game.
Funny how it falls on new years eve.
Need to drink a lot that night to forget this season.
I am going to give it the old college try!
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I wish I could of heard that! Love Bob.
If this would have been a game that mattered, then Bob would have lost it, and still be carrying on. LOL
He caught himself, but he was on the ledge.
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1 minute ago, mahagga73 said:
Hilton has to be stronger on the ball than that.
That was a terrible no-call.
He was held before the ball was even thrown.
3rd pick.... Maybe 2nd.... Go G-Men!
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Bob Lamey just said the NFL needs to fire all the officials and make them earn their way back in...
LOL!
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Ball Game!
Colts fall to 3-12.
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Just now, kornstar said:
Certainly can’t say we’ve thrown in the towel often this year.
A loss is expected these days but i like that they keep playing even when they keep losing troops and important troops at that.
There will still be people who say we lost games on purpose. Those people are mostly inbred though.
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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:
How can the Ravens let that happen
No matter how bad we suck, we have always been their Kryptonite.
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Colts block the punt!!!
WOW!
Walker with the block!
Basham with the recovery!!!
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Colts getting the ball back. We have a chance!
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5 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:
TY...still 'The Man'
Yep. He moved into 4th all time (Colts receptions) on that last drive.
He passed Dallas Clark.
Player Seasons Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Marvin Harrison 1996-08 1,102 14,580 13.23 80t 128 Reggie Wayne 2001-14 1,070 14,345 13.41 80 82 Raymond Berry 1955-67 631 9,275 14.70 70t 68 Dallas Clark 2003-11 427 4,887 11.45 80t 46 T.Y. Hilton 2012-17 422 6,713 15.91 87t 34 Bill Brooks 1986-92 411 5,818 14.16 84t 28 Lenny Moore 1956-67 363 6,039 16.64 82t 48 -
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IND BAL First Downs 16 22 Total Yards 286 305 Passing Yards 197 206 Rushing Yards 89 99 Penalties (Yds) 2(19) 4(20) Turnovers 0 0 Punts (AVG) 2(37) 2(32) Time of *. 23:14 32:13 -
I wish Pagano would have taken the field goal more often. Too many times we have gambled, and it did not work out well for us.
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Brissett is maturing right before our eyes on that play (throw-away).
Well done Jacoby!
Sucking it up, Colts batting either 2nd or 3rd (Week 16-17 edition)
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Cleveland owns the Houston pick, and will probably be picking twice in the top five.