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16 minutes ago, CurBeatElite said:
While I understand he had a very solid training camp last year, I have thought for a while this message board is getting a little high on him without ever seeing him in a regular season game.
The Colts coaching staff/front office must be pretty high on him to have a whole documentary series dedicated to him. It'd be an awkward thing to have to cut someone after hyping them up this much.
Hope he comes back fully healthy and lives up to his potential.
by most/all accounts last season, he had locked down X/WR2 by a country mile. Of course the competition as we know last year was pretty mediocre, but "sources" were touting his growing chemistry with Luck IIRC.
Cain has a lot of upside, so wasn't surprised last year as most mocks had him drafted a lot earlier. I think he'll be right back in the competition IF he's truly healthy and trusts the leg.
and yes, i agree on the vid series. i made the same point when a poster predicted that Cain would be cut. No way they are making a vid series hyping a comeback if they don't expect a lot out of him.
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Just now, NewColtsFan said:
You know.... almost every time you try to chacacteruze what I say, what I think, what I believe, you get it wrong.
Its pretty damn impressive.
And since I’m on record in every McCoy thread as wanting McCoy, I’m not even sure you realize that WE AGREE!
Hello?!?
And if we sign him, then Ballard agrees with both of us. But if Ballard chooses not to sign him, and he’s got all this money, then he doesn’t agree and we’ll just have to get over it. Things aren’t always so obvious as you seem to think they are.
Then why do you reply "Ballard may not see the need that you do....."... It's a whiny passive aggressive dig... And if you agree we need iDL, then you should have said "Ballard may not see the need that WE do....."
Just about every expert on the planet listed iDL as a top need. Do you really think Ballard disagrees with literally everyone, or is simply blind to it?
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7 hours ago, HarryTheCat said:
My guess (and that's all it is) is that Ballard just doesn't see the value in him at anything like $10-12MM/year for a rotational guy.
higer AV than Houston and 9 more QB hits...
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17 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Autry, Lewis, Ward... even Hint in a pinch. Ballard may not see the need that you do.....
Every one of the experts you cite on NFL.com, ESPN.com, etc., all say our biggest need going into the draft was iDL improvement.
Pretty sure Ballard knows there's a need, just like everyone else.
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20 minutes ago, JPFolks said:
So Mack is the speed runner and Hines is the speed catcher and Wilkins is the power back but (and this won't be popular) I think Ware may be the best mix of all those things of all the backs.
Ware might have a decent mix, but he's not the guy you want running a bunch on 1st and 10... Just like Hines isn't the guy you want running up the middle at the goal line (unless he plans to jump over it). Mack was plenty good on 1st and 2nd down last year after he came back from injury. Mack is 4.5 guy while Ware is 4.65 or more. Now if Mack went down, I'd seriously have to think about Ware vs Wilkins, but Wilkins is definitely the closer style to Mack than Ware.
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IMO he's doing his due diligence and taking his time.
Carolina and Baltimore aren't going far in the playoffs. Cleveland did a lot this off season, but it's history.....
IMO, the Colts have the most stable and fiscal resume. Not saying he ends up here, but I don't see us as an inferior product to any other team he's talking to.
If Ballard isn't willing to toss 10-12M/year for 2 years, that would be pretty silly given our need and fiscal situation.
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1 hour ago, dodsworth said:
Leonard excelled at linebacker on his way to the probowl, so why
can't Banogu, Okereke or even Speed nail down a starting position?
Campbell could well be one of the big steals of the draft, so I don't
foresee him not starting. Him or Funch will man the slot and the
other will play opposite of Ty. Inman was solid but was already
let go so that opens up a slot.
Banogu was in a very scheme specific defense. He's raw, and has very little "technique". Not saying he won't be good, or even great some day, but he's a major project. We didn't use a SAM last year a lot IIRC based on snap counts, so there's that too. To add, thought most reports had him working with the DEs during OTA. IMO, the Colts should use him in scheme specific snaps to maximize his athleticism, and not try to overload him to early.
Okereke is a project too. As a ND fan, I payed plenty of attention to him over the years. His base is pretty slight for a MLB. Again, he might be good, but I don't see him passing Walker this year. I'll be happy if he excels on STs. You have to have a very low opinion of Walker (who had a good tackle/snap ratio last year to think Okereke jumps him.
Speed, not sure where he'll end up. If it's WLB, he'll be behind Leonard. If SAM, again, we used SAM very little last year. The guy is really a wildcard if you know his history. Converted in college from QB to WR to LB. Had several injuries. And arrested... IMO it will be a victory if simply makes the team.
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1 hour ago, DerekDiggler said:
I agree. But I am hoping Mack can play a full season along with Ware will add some season longevity.
My hope still rest on Hines more than Mack
Hines will be electric now that we have surrounding weapons.
Mack, now with a legit guy like Ware to handle bully carries, will be healthier for the year IMO.
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2 minutes ago, DerekDiggler said:
I’m still thinking my way through this. But I imagine most do not think Mack has the durability to sustain a full season.
Personally i I am still not sold on Mack
Honestly I wasn't sold on Mack when we drafted him. When he got back, he kicked my doubts in the melons. He'll never be a bruiser short yardage guy, but he's a good RB who can be top 7ish.
Adding Ware IMO will be huge. Short yardage, and late game punishment.
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17 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:
Hilton
Funchess
Campbell
Cain
Fountain
Johnson
In the above, you have one Z (TY), two slots (PC and MJ), and three Xs (Funch, Cain, Fountain).
I'm good with only carrying one Z (keep in mind Rogers was his back up), and three Xs.. But at slot.... PC is a rookie, and MJ has been oft injured and hasn't ever had any real production dating back to college...
Do you really think they cut Rogers after the gains he made last year, he's the only experienced TY backup, and starting returner from last year...? I know he's not razzle dazzle, but we relied on him a lot (in a lot of areas) last year.
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2 hours ago, krunk said:
Who knows? I just know it would be a great thing to have Autry, Mccoy, Lewis, Ward, Hunt all together in our DL corps. Very diverse. I think McCoy would be crazy not to give Indy serious consideration. Cleveland looks pretty good right now but you just never know with them. Indy is more certain to win and everything is better here in terms of the Owner, GM, and Coaches.
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3 hours ago, BProland85 said:
I think it could be done behind this great young OL. I just think with how good Luck is and the added weapons around him, they’ll wanna exploit their lethal aerial attack this season. Not that they won’t run the ball in dominant fashion when they feel like doing so.
I truly think they can do both this year (top 5 passing and rushing).
On paper, there simply shouldn't be any weaknesses.
QB - Luck in year 2 of FR's system
OL - greatly improved last year, gelled, and in year 2 now with a healthy AC
TE - Ebron plus a healthy (?) Doyle, plus Cox getting great reviews
XWR - added Funch + a healthy (?) Cain
ZWR - Healthy TY
Slot - Rogers (who himself took a big step forward last year), and super dynamic Campbell
RB - A healthy Mack
PRB - added ware for short yardage, and late game pounding
APB - Hines had 700+ APY in his rookie year.
I just don't see much to exploit. Teams can't double TY this year while stacking the box for the run. They'll have to defend every inch of turf. And our OL isn't going to make any DL's job easy so long as Q is anchoring. If Reich is a decent coach, opposing Ds won't be able to plug all the holes.
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
I think people are misunderstanding when he says that. He wants to use play action more and be able to run when they want to. When he says that he is taking about the oline. Being able to get more yards per run ect. If Mack hadn’t been injured we probably would of been top ten.
normalized for the injury, Mack would have been 5th or 6th.
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3 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:
chuckle
Hunt can be an important part of our rotation again for sure.
But he is not what McCoy is. FYI McCoy graded 28 and Your Hunt 55th at DT.
And 21-6 in QB Hits. I don't have the numbers on pressures but those are likely a wide difference also.
No doubt just how high our staff feels about our current roster will determine what our interest is. A fat 2 year offer with considerable guarantees wouldn't surprise me.
yup, different level.
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Just looked at the poll numbers.
I guess most don't believe Reich's top 5 rushing commitment :-)
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On 5/25/2019 at 3:05 AM, JPFolks said:
I think much of the O stats will be dependent on the Defense. If the D plays well, our O stats will suffer in a good way. Less passing, less rushing, less everything needed. Less risk taking needed and not as many heroic massive 4th quarter comebacks. If the D suffers, as it could, by being too small in the front 7 and our corner play doesn't go as we hoped, then likely we'll have the fire power to outscore most teams as needed. So having huge O stats isn't always conducive to winning. That is why Brady's numbers have been less impressive and why the Jacksonville QB fooled people as much as he did playing garbage time.
Sure, D play will impact O play calling, but there are teams that have top 5 or 6 Os and Ds (Pitt last year for example).
We play 7 of the 11 best Os this year. I'm going to bet our O is more high octane than last, even vs the lesser O teams where our D is sound.
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Can we at least get a visit scheduled....
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2 hours ago, pacolts56 said:
You pretty much covered it there.... I voted the same except I have us 3rd overall... figuring that a couple teams like the Saints and maybe KC will light it up too.
One way or another.... defenses will have their hands full, and I really like that this isn't just some finesse gimmick offense, but a very balanced one that can physically pound the opposition OR compete in a track meet, if need be.
there are so many of the story lines that could be true that i listed. good Lord this is the most optimistic I've been since the Manning years (on our O).
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7 hours ago, shastamasta said:
Not according to Football Outsiders. They have GB’s pass protection ranked as follows:
2018 - 21
2017 - 28
2016 - 11
2015 - 23
2014 - 13
2013 - 26
Not really much “up” and mostly “down.” Rodgers hasn’t had top-tier pas protection for an entire decade...and it’s often pretty bad...and has gotten him injured (like Luck).
His pass protection in 2017 was actually almost as bad as Brissett’s...and he ultimately fractured his collar bone after being flushed out of the pocket. But in the 9 games he did play, he put up a 97 passer rating.
From 2009-2014, his average passer rating was 110...and only one season did he have an OL above 23rd.
The guy is the best ever IMO. Suffice to say...I think he would have managed alright on the 2017 Colts...unlike the others you mentioned.
I don't totally ignore the pass blocking rank, but like others have pointed out, it relies almost solely on sacks. I look at run blocking and TT (time to pass). Good run blocking and a short TT typically always equate to a good pass blocking rating. Good run blocking and a poor TT (holds the ball too long), typically means the pass protection is good or at least decent, but the QB is simply holding onto the ball too long.
In GB's case, they were top 10 in run blocking, and Rogers held onto the ball 5th longest.
PFF ranked GB's line 7th overall, and had this to say.
QuoteGreen Bay had their issues at right guard all season long, but it’s hard to overlook the fact that they sent out the best pass-protecting tackle duo in the league. David Bakhtiari had the highest pass-blocking grade among all tackles while Bryan Bulaga ranked second among right tackles in the NFL this season.
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QuoteGreen Bay had their issues along the interior, but it’s hard to overlook the fact that they sent out the best pass-protecting tackle duo in the league last year. Left tackle David Bakhtiari had the highest pass-blocking grade among all tackles while Bryan Bulaga ranked second among right tackles, and it’s a huge reason why the team allowed just 179 pressures from 729 passing snaps.
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6 minutes ago, shastamasta said:
Rodgers has had bad OL play quite often. His pocket presence and ability to throw on the run is second to none.
GB's OL was ranked 7th last year by FO, 5th in 2017. I can't feel too sorry for him the last two years. He's a good QB no doubt, but his OL has had ups and downs like most.
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38 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:
The most NFL cap space and what Irsay's budget is may be numerically far apart.
After signing Houston & Funchess, can Irsay afford another market value contract?
Irsay's isn't missing meals. As long as he can buy Beatles pianos, he can spend on the team.
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I picked 2nd total O, both passing and rushing will be top 5, and Luck will be #1.
Year 2 of a gelled OL with a healthy AC, year 2 of FR's system, 2 big adds to WR, and a RB with power will make us very dangerous in total O.
A healthy Mack, dynamic Hines, and a guy like Ware to pick up short yards and punish teams late (not to mention give Mack a rest) will be huge.
And.... Luck won't know what to do with all his new toys. TY not being doubled is HUGE. Speed options at Slot (PC) and X (Cain if healthy) will keep Ds on their toes. Ebron, Doyle, and Funchess will kill it across the middle and in the RZ. Luck is a lucky guy this year. It's about time.
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A little fun with O predictions. I think we're done in FA on O (maybe not D), so figured I don't have to wait till late August.
Please explain your choices if you have time.
Closes Sep1
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50 minutes ago, TomDiggs said:
Agreed! That said Cleveland has like $30M or soo too I believe.
so I can easily see them making an offer that we need to beat. And I just don’t think it’s in Ballard’s dna yet to do that. And definitely not for a 31 yr old 3-tech where he seems to have a lot of faith in Autry/Lewis/Ward. I would do it but that’s why I’m not leading this team lol.
I look at it this way. McCoy is a great locker room guy. Great example. We'll have plenty, I mean plenty of $$ left over, again.... We're sitting well for 2020 cap space as well (forecasted to have the most again IIRC).
This is a no risk, almost a guaranteed reward scenario. Even if he got injured 1st game and was out for the season, he'd be a great cheerleader in the locker room and on the sideline for our young guys.
Spend the dang money lol.
Deon Cain’s recovery video
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really cheering for Cain, but anything that makes DD look stupid is a huge cherry on top.