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  1. 6 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

    Maybe....

     

    Bur during that time the Skins also had Scot McCloughan (sp?) wasn’t convinced Cousins was worth the price either.   And McCloughan has a very good reputation.   

     

    Just saying these decisions aren’t often as easy and obvious as fans think they are... 

     

    McCloughan wanted to extend Cousins early in 2015, before he got too expensive. Cousins wasn't playing well at the time and didn't turn it on until the second half of the season. Cousins himself admitted later that if he had received an offer, even one that was lowball offer, he'd have had to take it. And it was Scot and Gruden who stood on the table for Cousins before the 2015 season and said to Dan Snyder that Cousins needs to start, RG3 needs to sit.

     

    Bruce Allen wasn't sold and refused. They gave Cousins the tag after the season, Scot was removed from the negotiation table and Bruce Allen declined contract offer from Cousins that was a 3 yr, 60M deal of which 40 or 60M was guaranteed. can't recall which. IIRC, Scot wasn't completely sold on Cousins either and wanted to trade him in 2017 and draft a QB.

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  2. 5 hours ago, coltsva said:

    And the answer is.....,

     

    In the past 5 years none of the 7 teams have had a first round draft pick in the top ten spots. All other 25 teams have picked in the top ten at least once from 2014-2018 drafts.

     

    Apologoes if this was a bit random or obscure, but thought it was “tricky interesting” due to the Miami angle. 

     

    I think that was a really good one. Kind of * that I didn't figure it out since I thought it might have been draft related.

  3. 5 minutes ago, Rackeen305 said:

    Im glad you understood that I was joking as well. For anyone to mention Elway knowing he never played for the Colts is funny. But I became a Colts fan durnig the glory years of PM stretch handoffs to Edge or Playaction off the handoffs to edge to a down the field bomb to Marvelous Marvin Harrison.

     

    Can anyone tell me why those concepts has never been added to AL playbook? The PA/stretch handoffs to the RB. That was a thing of beauty. like a well tuned orchestra. 

     

    There needs to be a threat of a run for PA to work well. 

     

    Colts haven't had the OL nor RB(s) for that. Hopefully that will change soon.

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  4. 3 hours ago, Rackeen305 said:

    I laugh so much at this forum. Everyone wants a player/car that is cheap. OK when that thing breaksdown on you "because it was cheap", dont feel stranded. Why not have AL receiving a cheap contract then, instead of insisting "at the time" that you want to make AL the highest paid player in the league? Then turn around and say, "Hey player X, ill sign you for cheap". come on mann. If you want a Khalil Mack, Von Miller, or even an Aaron Donald type player, Ill even add Suh, You have to "Pay the man"...

     

    Furthermore, Name 1 player the Colts has ever signed to a large contract who's name isnt PM, or Freeny that stuck around longer than 1 year????

     

    Edgerrin james?!?! lol

     

    Anthony Castonzo. Became the 4th highest paid (in avg. salary per year) OL at the time of his extension.

     

    Same with TY among WRs.

  5. 9 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

    Hard pass

     

    I'm not even all that sold on Bell being a great RB.  Every RB seems to put up big numbers while playing for the Steelers.  

     

    Bell was hurt or suspended or something and the Steelers started Deangelo Williams and he put up big numbers.  Then Bell decides to hold out and they start James Conner and he's putting up big numbers.  

     

    I don't think he's among the top runners in the game but it's his dual threat abilities that put him (arguably) above every other RB. Williams and Conner aren't/were not as good receivers. Conner has been good enough though that I don't think the Steelers will miss Bell a and his #14-15M per year price tag.

  6. 2 minutes ago, Rackeen305 said:

    I respect your view point. All I have to say is, during the bright lights off the Superbowl vs the Pats, Julio shined time after time, Including that clutch catch, I believe it was like 4th and long where he caught this highly difficult pass to keep the game alive by the sidelines. I know people will bring up the replayed OBJ TD catch, but when it mattered the most, Julio was no joke.

     

    It was 3rd and long and that throw and catch was pretty much impossible to defend. One of the greatest catches in SB history and would be much highly regarded if the Falcons didn't choke so badly after it. And OBJ was that very year his first and as of now the only time in the * and he was bad.

     

    Julio is great and pretty much unstoppable between the 20s but his low TD scores is why I can't put him above AB and OBJ. OBJ's yardage per game and TD production so far (first 5 years) is pretty much unprecented in NFL history, though his era probably skews the numbers to his favor against guys who started their careers 15+ years ago.

  7. 8 minutes ago, J@son said:

     

    Regarding OBJ...why would the Giants try to trade him?  I'd be beyond shocked.  They just resigned him to a monster contract in August.  Moving OBJ, if I understand correctly, would result in the Giants having ~40 mil in dead cap penalty.  

     

    It's about 20M if he's traded. Not that small amount either.

     

    Giants are probably not trading him either as you said, they just extended him. They'd most likely lose any trade.

  8. 1 hour ago, Rackeen305 said:

    Sticking to WR, If there were a WR that warrants 2 first rounders, I would go with:

     

    • *Julio Jones - 1A
    • *Antonio Brown - 1B

     

    I would give up 2 first for these guys as the league has changed more to favor offense. And these 2 WRs are the best IMO. 

     

    For anyone saying no one is worth two 1st round picks, I have a question. Is any 1st round pick selected from 9-32 a guaranteed lock to be a  Pro Bowler? No. So if you have a player of AB or JJ caliber (ALL PROs), why aren't they worth it? especially considering these guys score points for you.

     

    I'd put OBJ above Julio. Julio has had better QB, coaching staff and other offensive weapons around him than OBJ. So has Brown but I think they are about on par. Julio and OBJ are about even in yards per game. But Odell produces touchdowns at about twice higher rate.

     

    I'm not sure where this cancer stuff is coming from (from others, not you). Maybe he is but no one here really knows for sure. He's a diva for sure and possibly a headcase but cancer? 

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    9 hours ago, PeterBowman said:

    Other than Donald, Nelson has pretty much gone up against most of the best D lineman in the league....Geno Atkins, Clowney, Fletcher Cox, and has more than held his own and even dominated at times.

     

    Hernandez has faced pretty good DTs/DEs too. Both Cox and Clowney, whoever Jax lined up against him, Kawann Short, Grady Jarrett along with Dallas and Nola fronts.

  10. 10 wins would mean no more than 1 loss the rest of the way. While I said yesterday that no team remaining on our schedule is in the top dozen NFL teams this year and are all more or less flawed teams, as of now, so is our team so going on that kind of streak isn't realistic expectation.. However, around 0.500 is very much in the reach. Maybe even 8-9 wins is enough to get the division title this year.

     

    I think we could make it but lot of things neet to go our way. Jax locker room being mess is one of those things, lol.

  11. 14 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

     

    You think the Minesota Vikings,  with the combo of Adam Thelen and Shelton Diggs, who are both getting paid ALSO offered Alshon Jeffrey a 4-year deal?    The Vikings have salary cap issues.   I think the chances that kind of money was offered are right around slim and none.

     

    Just as I think we offered 5-years to Dontari Poe....     Ballard, who came from KC, knows him better than other teams.    And Poe went to Atlanta on a 1-year deal.     We couldn't beat a 1-year deal?     If we wanted him,  we'd beat that easily.    That's why I think there's little to no chance we offered 5-years,  unless it was with virtually no guaranteed money,  and then,  what's the point?

     

     

    RE: Vikes and Jeffery:

     

     

    Jeffery actually confirmed that the Vikings were after him.

     

    Diggs and Thielen were paid less than 7.5 M last year, combined. Thielen was on 1st year of 4yr 19M deal and Diggs on 3rd year of his rookie deal. I recalled reading 4 years but that might have been wrong but it was much better offer than what he got from the Eagles.

     

    Ballard knowing Poe may have had zero influence on Poe's decision. It might have been just 2 years guaranteed or 20-25M and Poe wanted a lot more.

     

    JLC also said this, FWIW

     

     

  12. Didn't vote but I had the Colts at 6-8 wins, so I probably would've taken the middle option. I oversetimated the impact of getting Luck back and underestimated how much our WRs besides TY suck and we've yet again struggled with injuries. I still think we can finish in the 6-8W range because we don't play really good teams anymore. Our division rivals, NYG, DAL, OAK, MIA and BUF today.. Only MIA is above 0.500 and they are pretty flawed team. I wouldn't put any of those teams in the top dozen this year.

     

  13. 10 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

    Talks doesn’t mean we offered. 

     

    It can just just as easily mean Poe  asked and the Colts said no.

     

    Its near impossible to believe we offered 5-years and he went to Atlanta for 1-year.

     

     

    That was in response to question 'no real offer from the Colts?'. Maybe we didn't offer 60M over 5yrs but the way it was phrased and we had him for a visit, it's near impossible to believe we didn't offer something like that. Just to turn around and give Hankins 30M, supposedly inferior player who had been on the market for a while.

     

    Issue could've been guaranteed money, fit, team competitivness, willing to bet on himself in hopes of getting bigger deal (didn't work out too well).

     

    Alshon Jeffery declined 4yr offer from the Vikings and bet on himself with 1 yr deal with the Eagles that same offseason. Worked for him.

     

  14. 38 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

     

     

    As for Poe...   he reportedly wanted a 5-year deal.   We didn’t offer that and he signed a 1 or 2 year deal with Atlanta.  Is someone claiming we offered 5-years and he turned that down for a very short deal elsewhere?   Hard to believe.

     

     

     

     

  15. 13 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

    Yes, we have Luck and yes he's a franchise QB but we lack talent at the receiver position. So my point is they shouldn't use the fact they have Luck as a reason we should have won more games. He's got to have someone to throw to besides TY. 

     

    We do have Ebron and Doyle along with decent scatbacks though injuries have hurt us there.

     

    I also can't imagine the WR position not being addressed next offseason.

     

    Right now the situation is bad for sure. I think our opponent tomorrow is the only team that has it clearly worse.

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