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6 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
In 5 years he has 258 tackles, 1 sack and 10 interceptions.
Last season he had 53 tackles, 0 sacks and 2 interceptions.
The 53 tackles does not even put him in the top 100 players in the league.
1-Matthias Farley had 95 tackles for the Colts was #41 in the league
2-Jon Bostic had 97 tackles for the Colts. was rated 36 in the league.
I listed these two linebackers for the Colts as an example to show he was not a good player.
Tackles aren't a good measure of a player talent/performance. It can often indicate that player allowed a completion that he shouldn't have.
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46 minutes ago, Narcosys said:
Lol, good luck with that. They couldn't prove collusion with Kaepernick, no way they will with this.
That's still ongoing, right?
Not that it matters here. This won't probably go anywhere. Weaker case than with Kaepernick.
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26 minutes ago, csmopar said:
This theory holds ZERO water. If that was the case, Jacksonville and the Browns would be dynasty's by now as they've been drafting in the top 5 almost every year since 2000. Meanwhile, the Patriots havent picked out side of the bottom 6 in the draft for over 10 years. Its not where you pick, it's who you pick and how they fit your scheme.
Who you pick and how they fit your scheme matters but where you pick matters a ton too (except for the Browns, lol).
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1 hour ago, crestmount said:
Just can't understand why Browns didn't draft Darnold
Draft media was quite a bit lower on Mayfield than NFL teams. Browns saw him as highly competitive kid, who had great workouts and interviews.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/30/baker-mayfield-cleveland-browns-draft-mmqb-peter-king
https://twitter.com/GrahamBarfield/status/990788747217207296
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/04/baker_mayfield_was_the_top_qb.html
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13 hours ago, ClaytonColt said:
3 of them were first rounders you are quite correct however when they had their best recent season the other two spots were filled with lower round picks like Doug Free or UDFAs like Ronald Leary rather than 2nd round picks.
Interestingly though, since they completed the rebuild of the line by drafting Martin in 2015 they've got a record of 26/22 so it's hardly been an overwhelming success anyway if that's who we're trying to replicate.
Martin was drafted 2014.
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26 minutes ago, Zoltan said:
He reminds me of Laquon Treadwell
Treadwell didn't test well. Sutton had insane agility scores for a big guy. He reminds me more of Alshon Jeffery.
3 hours ago, DougDew said:Because he's a big tall WR that we don't need. We need the shifty slot guy with YAC.
We don't have good big tall WR either.
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12 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Well... Grant for one... remember, Baltimore signed him to a big deal before they flunked his physical. But Ozzie Newsome thinks Grant is a starting quality WR. So, there's that.
We are still in the off-season... we've got time... and the roster was never going to get fixed in this offseason...
Lets talk in about 13-14 months and see where we are...
Ozzie Newsome doesn't exactly have great track record when it comes to WR evaluation, though. The only position (probably QB too) where he's legitimately been bad.
I really like Sutton but I understand passing on him.
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3rd rounder to move up 3 spots in the 2nd is pretty unprecented (even though it's comp pick). Teams paid relatively less to move up in the 1st round just yesterday.
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24 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
You would think GM's know more than us average fans so maybe Dorsey knows something we don't. I don't see it though. IMO Darnold will be better than Mayfield and Chubb will be better than Ward.
I think so too, though there were positional needs at play here, when it comes to Chubb vs. Ward.
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23 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:
The Browns over-thought this and rolled the dice.
Mayfield and Ward could become good players, but I doubt many other NFL teams would have made those selections. I would be willing to bet my paycheck that nearly all of the NFL teams would have picked Darnold and either Chubb (or traded the fourth overall pick back).
Only the decision makers of the Browns draft board can know that.
I really don't think it matters what other teams would've done.
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23 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:
We can see what Dorsey does without his Chiefs clan. The first 4 picks of 2018.
They fired him.... Ask yourself why. I don't think it is hard to connect the dots.
Dorsey rolled the dice when he did not have to. That is who he is.
That's if it's already determined who those first picks end up being. His staff in CLE is arguably at least as good and we don't know how much of KC drafts were on Dorsey/someone else.
My understanding is that his firing was related to his cap management, management style (more of a talent evaluator/scout than a general manager) along with some personnel moves (extending own picks with generous contracts, hard-ball stance with Houston and Berry, cutting Maclin without informing the staff etc).
Were those picks made because Dorsey is a guy who rolls the dice when he doesn't have to or because that's who their staff had as the best players in the draft after extensive research?
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27 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:
it wasn't just Dorsey drafting players there. He had people around him making good decisions.... Chris Ballard was one of those guys.
Dorsey had the most say (save for maybe Reid) and Dorsey brought many of those guys there, just like he has done now in CLE, poaching from GB and bringing in Scot McCloughan, one of the best talent evaluators out there (who was a big Mayfield at least before he was hired by the Browns earlier this year).
Chubb over Ward was interesting but corner was far bigger need and guys like Ward are rarely available later in the draft. Ogbah is a stud too.
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33 minutes ago, Cynjin said:
So the 49ers are trading away the best RT in the NFL for a late 3rd pick? That doesn't seem very logical.
He's not an ideal fit for ZBS that Shanahan loves to run, especially outside zone. Terrible fit, actually.
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23 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:
Very few prospects are bust proof.
That said, anyone who would take Mayfield and Ward over Darnold and Chubb needs to have their head examined.
I think John Dorsey got into his own head and completely over-thought this.
Mayfield and Ward are both good players, but taking them over Darnold and Chubb is more than just questionable. It's a good reason to question someones sanity though.
I think we are really starting to understand why the Chiefs fired this cat in June... In June!
I think there is a chance that cat is a nut job.
His drafting with the Chiefs though, was up there with the best of them.
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25 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:
Brown wasn't anything great to talk about though.
He's been one of the best pass blocking RTs the past couple of years. Von Miller claims he's the best RT in the game.
His issues are his huge size which hurts in the run game and his conditioning. He's been kind of inconsistent and last season ended in an injury.
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Mike Silver (Hue Jackson mouthpiece) said the Browns would've taken him at #33.
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28 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Yes, the LT was the elite pick...as is the case in the NFL. Pederson's team did not require an elite G.
LT was actually 5th rounder in '16. RT was #4 overall pick in 2013.
Brandon Brooks may not be elite RG (as in top 5) but he's not far off from that.
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31 minutes ago, Superman said:
Bill Polian says a lot of things these days, doesn't he?
I don't think WILL is the second most important position on the defense, I think MIKE is. And I think good safety play is third.
But I do agree that WILL is being undervalued here lately, I think it's mostly just an attempt to marginalize Roquan Smith and promote Tremaine Edmunds.
I personally slide with the NFL executives opinion here and put interior defensive line as the second most important.. Not far off from the edge. Maybe even more important.
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5 hours ago, krunk said:
Do people ever look to see what the cause of an issue is before declaring it permanent? I remember Lucks first 2 seasons in Indy. He had some significant accuracy issues. Fixed his footwork and now he's much better. But for some reason Josh Allen can't do that?
Luck didn't have accuracy issues in college. Allen had major issues. Luck's accuracy issues in the NFL weren't nearly as bad relatively as Allens were in college.
Players with comparable YPA and comp% for Allen in college haven't become great QBs in the NFL.
QBs usually don't improve dramatically in accuracy from college/early NFL years (note; accuracy, not comp%). Peyton Manning is one of the few who managed to do that. I think decision-making was bigger issue for Luck early on. Still was in 2016 but it's improved a ton.
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1 hour ago, ColtsBlitz said:
I pretty much get you, but I know they have Gerald McCoy inside. They would need a DE then, would they not? Or do they play 3-4 fronts?
4-3 base. And yes, they do need DE. They have JPP and Noah Spence but both of those guys have their own issues.
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6 hours ago, Shive said:
He was severely overdrafted and I think is playing out of position. He's had lower body tightness issues and struggled to get proper depth quick enough to hold up against pass rushers. He would be a much better guard, especially since he's a strong run blocker and has pretty good short area quickness. I don't know that I would trade for him though. Maybe get him as a FA or off waivers if he's cut, but I wouldn't give up draft capital for him.
His hand usage is awful. That would get exposed more at G.
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Allen didn't have lot of talent around him. But he played in the Mountain West. So he played against mostly crappy talent. And still compares unfavorably against his peers who also played with crappy talent. A kid with that kind of arm talent should completely dominate the Mountain West.
I like Rosen and Darnold the most.. they are neck and neck. Then Mayfield, Jackson and Rudolph, followed by Allen.
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Some players that fit your description IMO (some don't fit the 'smart' part that well though)
RB: Derrius Guice, John Kelly
WR: Anthony Miller
OT: Connor Williams, Martinas Rankin
OG: Quenton Nelson, Will Hernandez, Alex Cappa
C: Billy Price, Frank Ragnow
DT: Harrison Phillips, Derrick Nnadi,Nathan Shepherd
EDGE: Bradley Chubb, Marcus Davenport
LB: Rashaad Evans, Josey Jewell, Tre Williams
CB: Denzel Ward, Holton Hill, Carlton Davis
S: Dervin James, Ronnie Harrison, Marcus Allen, Tray Matthews
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4 hours ago, TKnight24 said:
Loved Minkah at Alabama...... now scared of Minkah heading into the NFL due to the history of Alabama secondary players being busts when they enter the league
Only 2 I can say worked out in recent years are Landon & HaHa
I'm not that worried about that. Humphrey looked pretty good. Milliner was a bust but his career was ruined by injuries. Hard to say how much of that was genetic and how much for being groomed under Sabans strict and grueling regime.
Barron was a bust at safery but solid LB. Kirkpatrick is solid CB with couple of very good years (but couple pretty bad). Kareem Jackson has had a good career.
Ok, this is getting out hand...
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Tackles do show if LB is involved in the game but not in what way (positve or negative). Paul Poszlusny was up there among the tackle leaders for most of his career. Just way too many of them were on pass completions he shouldn't have allowed or tackling the RB way too late.
Kam Chancellor has 2 sacks his whole career. None since 2012. Patrick Chung has 1 since 2012. Pass rushing isn't very important quality for a DB.