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3 hours ago, dodsworth said:
Go with Doyle, Swoope, Williams and a UDFA for TE. The only offensive picks should be Lamp or a RB in the
later rounds.
Agree. Except I don't want Lamp with our 1st pick. I don't think drafting a center and a guard back to back years with your first round picks is the best way to go about things. We need a defensive playmaker to help our defense improve.
We got our franchise center for years in Kelly, let the others battle it out for the starting RG and RT spot.
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41 minutes ago, BProland85 said:
Hope it's Bucky Hodges or Jonnu Smith.
I like Bucky Hodges. Don't know much about Jonnu Smith. If we could get Hodges in the fifth, I would be content. I think it really all depends on who is available. I do agree that we should go BPA.
With this draft, I believe that there will be a lot of players that are rated high at each pick. I would rather go defense.
A healthy Luck is going to make a tight end look better. It's nice to have a game changing TE, but it isn't necessary. Especially if we go more 3 WR sets this year. I'm all for getting a TE next year if Doyle and Swoope don't play as good as I think they can. We need so much help on defense, I would rather pick almost all defense other than a RB and maybe a RG or RT.
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4 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher said:
I think it would be foolish not to get one of the better TE's in this talented group.
I think it would be foolish to draft a tight end high in the draft.
All of the "better" tight ends will be gone before we pick in the third round(our first two picks will likely go to a corner, linebacker, or D-Line)
O.J. Howard is the only clear cut star at Tight End coming out of this draft. David Njoku, Jack Butte, Evan Engram, and Adam Shaheen are the next best. All will likely be gone by the early third.
Our top position needs in order: CB, ILB, NT, OLB, RB, FS, DE, G, OT.
Arguable if in the exact order, but I think most of us will agree all 9 of those positions are in a bigger need than in tight end.
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13 hours ago, BProland85 said:
I'd like to see Ballard draft a high upside TE like Jonnu Smith in the late 4th/early 5th round. He has been compared to Delanie Walker at times. The early picks should be spent mostly on defense and maybe RB.
I would be fine with him with our 5th round pick, but I think their is too much talent at linebacker, corner, and running back to grab a tight end unless he is an obvious steal.
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1 hour ago, egg said:
I thought the Colts got New England's 6th pick in the trade. No?
We sent our 6th and Dwayne Allen to NE for their 4th. I wish we got their 6th as well.
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1 hour ago, BProland85 said:
Agreed. Gotta take advantage of great position classes other than QB and WR where this team seems set.
Having said that indy doesn't need to be drafting a TE in the very early rounds. Gotta also take advantage of the good pass rushing and secondary class.
The Tight End class is good. Not great IMO. This draft is loaded with DB's, RB's, and pass rushers. We simply don't have enough picks to draft a Tight End unless it's a talent you could not pass up. If O.J. Howard fell to us in the second, I could understand drafting him there.
But with all of our needs, we should hold off on the Tight End position right now IMO.
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13 hours ago, Malakai432 said:
Good question, next year possibly?? No clue but we'll find out @ the end of this month if they plan on drafting one! Maybe they bring in one via UDFA? Also, they did bring in Brandon Williams from Seattle, he may be an effective third. I'm with ya though I wouldn't really like to see one drafted this year, maybe next pending on how Swoope/Williams pan out.
Yeah I'm perfectly okay with Williams as our third for this upcoming season. Doyle, Swoope, and Williams is a good trio of Tight Ends with a lot of potential.
I would be okay signing an UDFA(which I'm sure we will for training camp), but I really want the veteran presence of Williams as our Number 3 in case he gets thrown into a starting role. Our offense can't afford to have a rookie tight end out there missing blocks consistently.
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If anyone listened to Ballard or Pagano talk about the Dwayne Allen trade, they sounded very interested in the tight ends in this years' draft. To the point it has me thinking they intend on drafting one this year.
Is it just me or would anyone else be unsettled if we spent a 3rd or 4th round pick on a TE? I liked the move to trade Allen(other than that it was to the Patriots), but I was glad because it was going to allow Doyle and Swoope to show their abilities better.
I could see using a 6th or 7th round pick on one to be our No. 3 this year. But we don't have any late round picks. Even saying that, I would rather our No. 3 be a veteran in case Doyle or Swoope goes down.
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4 hours ago, southwest1 said:
I get this post from using Gore from a short yardage goal line bulldozer perspective Gabriel. And yes, SW1 is aware of giving 2 likes to 2 seemingly contradictory replies yours & CBE's.
I revere Frank's pound it out style & that he rarely fumbles the ball. So, I can't really root against the man yardage wise. However, having said all that, we need a scat back with speed & the sledge hammer that is Gore to finish drives with touchdowns not field goals. In closing, I agree 100% with both posts if that makes an sense.
Sounds strange I know, but 2 polar opposites can be true simultaneously in some cases.
I'm on the same boat with you. It's hard to tell when Gore is going to hang them up. He played well last year. He could still play 3 more average to slIgtly above average years. But as much as I have liked Gore, I wish we had a back with speed who we could dump off screens to and could take it to the house. Or make a 5 yard run a 20 yard run by using a spin move or a jump cut. Gore used his power and vision well, but doesn't have the speed or agility to make defenders miss as a speedster does.
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Actually. I have thought about this. If we did draft Peppers with the 15th pick, he would give our defense a lot of flexibility. If Green turns out to be a good player at the FS position, then that leaves Geathers and Peppers both fighting for one spot.
But I really like the idea of them playing two positions. Their bodies couldn't take the pounding of playing as a full-time linebacker without bulking and loosing speed to cover as a safety. But they could both switch off and on, always share the field at the same time. When one plays SS, the other plays ILB.
I'm not sure if he would be BPA, but I do believe once he finds his true position in the NFL, he will be a star. I just don't know if we have time to wait.
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6 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:
Giving up 19/game would pretty much make us a top 10, maybe even top 5 defense. That's likely not happening in 1 offseason. I'd love to be wrong about that, but it's hard to imagine that quick of a transformation.
Hey you never know the Giants did it lol
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8 hours ago, krunk said:
NFL | D'Onta Foreman impresses at pro day Wed Mar 29, 11:13 PM
Texas RB D'Onta Foreman, who was held out of the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine due to a stress fracture in his foot, ran the 40-yard dash in a 4.45 seconds at his school's pro day on Tuesday, March 28. The 234-pound Foreman also recorded a 33-inch vertical jump and 10-foot broad jump. Foreman’s pass catching really stood out in drills as he made every catch, grabbing the ball away from his frame. There was no body catching, bobbling of the ball or double-catching.
He has been the RB I have wanted all along. Hoping we can snag him in the third. He is a beast on the field. And I think he will be the second or third best back to come out of this class.
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I'm completely against trading back in the 1st because there is too much talent at the top of the draft, but I'm thinking if we go ILB, Ballard trades back and grabs Cunningham or tries to see if Reddick lasts a few picks longer. I doubt Foster is available.
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2 hours ago, CR91 said:
With the schedule release a couple weeks away, let's see if we can predict our first opponent in the regular season.
In case you need a reminder of who we're playing this year, here you go
Texans
Titans
Jags
Steelers
Ravens
Bengals
Browns
Bills
Broncos
Seahawks
Rams
Cards
49ers
I think the ravens would be a good season opener
My gut feeling is telling me it is going to be either the Cardinals or Steelers.
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15 hours ago, Superman said:
My biggest criticism of him when he came out and as a rookie was his body catching. He has this great frame and catch radius -- it rivals Julio Jones, based on the numbers -- but he didn't use it well, especially against smaller defenders. I think he's come a long way in two years, and he has some extension catches over defenders that make me think he gets it. He still has work to do, but I think he's gotten much better.
As for body catches, I notice he does it more in traffic. He can snatch the ball out of the air, and does at times, but in the end zone or across the middle, he uses his body. It's not my favorite technique, but a certain HOF receiver preaches it like gospel: Michael Irvin.
That was what I worried about with him as well. Last year in the games he played, he caught some out routes and used his hands nicely on the sideline. But over the middle he jumps high in the air and used his body when he doesn't need to. If he continues to do that, a hit by a hard-hitting safety like Thomas, Chancellor, or Ward will not end up good. Part of the reason he hasn't excelled, as well as our other receivers(even Hilton could have better stats), is that we don't throw very many slants or smoke screens. I think with his big frame and his speed, like Julio Jones, he could turn some of those slants or screens into huge gains. I'm confident in our receiving core especially with a solid addition like Aiken.
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4 minutes ago, Superman said:
Didn't mean to blow your comments out of proportion. I think maybe my impression of your stance is flavored by other comments in this thread.
We'll see what Ballard and the rest of the staff think about Moncrief in time.
I wasn't interested in adding Aiken, but I do like that they've added competition, and I hope it brings out the best in everyone in the WR room. But I think Moncrief is the most physically gifted receiver on our roster, and if he can stay on the field and continue to put all of his tools together, we might have something special on our hands.
I think it's obvious he is the most physically gifted receiver when it comes to his athleticism and his body style. He still catches with his body and disappears. He has the potential. I hope he reaches it and I'm wrong about Ballard not considering him a key piece for this franchise.
After all, I don't want to have to stop wearing my jersey of his!
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5 hours ago, Superman said:
Ballard trying to improve every position does not mean his dissatisfied with Moncrief, which is the theme of this thread.
As it stands, the Colts did NOT sign Jeffery, no matter how interested they might have been. Given that Jeffery got less than he was projected to get (both years and average), and given that the Colts weren't exactly throwing around big money this offseason, it's hard to imagine that they made a strong push for Jeffery (and we should note that all those "reports" about them doing so were regurgitations of Rapaport's tweet). Maybe they did, but if they wanted him, they could have had him, based on the contract he wound up signing.
So now, here the Colts have basically the same receiver corps they had last season, plus Aiken (pending the draft). The idea that Moncrief is on unsure ground because they added Aiken just makes no sense.
And as I said before, the idea that Ballard wanted to add another bigger receiver doesn't undermine Moncrief at all, as long as he stays healthy.
I also don't know why we're ignoring the fact that Hilton has played plenty of slot in his five years.
All I'm saying is there's a major leap in logic here. "The Colts were interested in Alshon Jeffery, and now they signed Kamar Aiken. That must mean they don't like Moncrief anymore!" I'm missing the connection.
I was referring to Ballard not thinking he was a star. Obviously Aiken isn't taking his spot. I think Aiken will fight for the numbe 3 spot and probably earn it over Dorsett. I personally just believe that management doesn't regard Moncrief as a star player for this team. Otherwise I don't see them going after Jeffery. My personal opinion. I said I like Moncrief and think he is a good number 2. I just don't think management views him as a priority unless he has a great year. Which might price himsefnout of or range. And we could possibly get Jeffery(a top receiver if healthy) next year for a little larger of a price. You guys blew it way out of proportion. Thanks for the debate though!
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5 hours ago, Superman said:
It's actually quite different. We know for a fact that the Colts were very interested in Poe, even hosting him for a visit.
Not at all. You're taking one statement from a reporter and turning it into far more than it's known to be. You're stating as fact that the Colts 'went hard after Jeffery' simply because Rapaport said they were interested. Not only was that interest not confirmed by anyone, it's being blown out of proportion. You're talking as if the Colts offered him a contract, and we don't know that at all. In fact, based on their pattern this offseason, it's probably more likely that they did NOT make him an offer (but that's just my opinion).
Just because this is a message board and we get to speculate and talk about what we think doesn't mean we have to suspend reality while we do so.
I mean if you think I'm suspending reality. Okay. That's your opinion. I truly believe Moncrief will do fine. I've said that in every post. I like him. I have a jersey of his. But I just think that Ballard tries to improve every position out there. Actually if you look at many reports that link Ashlon jeffery to the Colts, it says Colts are making a strong push to sign Ashlon Jeffery. I didn't just completely blow things out of proportion. Other posters on here have agreed with Moncrief and his status with the Colts from the coaching and management position. Also, if he was " just interested" in Jeffery that shows to me he wants another play making receiver other than Hilton. Hilton could play slot, but he has mainly stayed outside his whole career. If you have Hilton, Jeffery, and Moncrief, who would play the slot?
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2 hours ago, Superman said:
That's not what Rapaport's report said. He said the Colts and Eagles were interested. He didn't say anyone was a finalist.
We didn't bring in Jeffery.
Just because someone said the Colts were interested doesn't mean the Colts went hard after him. He got a moderate, one year contract. The Colts easily could have done better than what he got. I tend to think the Colts talked to his agent, and that's it.
It's true that Jeffery is better than Moncrief, at least based on what they've done so far. But if you're intent on upgrading from Moncrief, you don't go from Alshon Jeffery to Kamar Aiken.
Well that's like saying we lost out on Poe. So we settle for Woods. Sometimes you have to settle for a lesser talent if the talent is not there or the player does not want to come.
You just did the same thing as I did. You said you tend to THINK we just talked to his agent. That's an opinion and exactly what I am putting out there. I think Moncrief will do fine. But don't be surprised if Ballard moves on next year regardless of how he plays. If he plays subpar, than I would expect that some other team with a lot of money will throw more money than we are willing to give him for his potential. If he plays average/above average than he will price himself way out of our price range IMO. I Unless he has a 1300 yard plus season, and 10+ TD's, then I think Ballard may change his mind. Lol
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On 3/26/2017 at 5:37 PM, BlueShoe said:
How could you possibly know that? You're reaching far to assume that.
Look to my last post. I don't "know." I just don't see why he would go hard after Jeffery(a big bodied receiver) if he thought Moncrief could fill that role. Moncrief has been a decent number 2. I think he will be solid. Hopefully have a 900-1100 yard season. But he isn't a "star." Not yet anyways. I'm sure Pagano and Chud have talked to Ballard about the offense. And possibly why he went after Jeffery. None of us will know anything for a fact until it happens or we hear it from Ballard himself, but we can sure take hints and use the facts to make a very educated guess.
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21 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Well.....
There's good conversation and then there's..... NOT so good conversation.
And this website has plenty of both. I'd love to have more of the good kind and less of the NOT so good kind.
Deciding now that a poster here --- any poster here --- knows what Chris Ballard thinks of a player is ridiculous because none of us knows anything. Ballard may love the guy. He may like the guy. He may not like him. But nobody knows. So, stating as fact that Ballard doesn't like someone is a dog that just won't hunt.....
That's true. But you would have to call almost everyone out if you are saying I'm jumping to conclusions. Most of us base what we say from an inside source or our opinion. In my case, many sources(including Ian Rapport) said we were in the top 2 running to get Jeffery. Do you really think Ballard would have even went after him if he thought Donte was a star and was a top receiver? You don't bring in Jeffery if you have 100% confidence in Moncrief being a top receiver. We also wouldn't have been able to afford Moncrief next year had we signed Jeffery. That isn't really jumping to conclusions either. Technically, yes, we could have afforded all three, but you don't pay 3 receivers over 10 million a piece(if Moncrief was considered a star and had a good season he would get over that), and still build a good defense. Maybe Moncrief does have a great year, I hope so. I think he is capable. But I'm sticking to my educated guess that Moncrief isn't considered a "big-time player or star" by Ballard(possibly Pagano).
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19 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:
I never said anything about over-paying for him. Not sure how someone could possibly read what I wrote and come away with that.
And seriously; on what planet is Aiken ever going to be in Moncrief's realm. No need to answer, because it is rhetorical.
I wasn't saying you said that. Ballard said he is very careful in his approach to signing people to big contracts. Moncrief is young and has a lot of potential.
And if you read what I said, then you would realize I said if Aiken has a breakout season and a better season than Moncrief. Then Moncrief could be let go. Aiken could be resigned for cheaper. Jeffery is a free agent next year. We tried to go after him already. Obviously Ballard doesn't think Donte is a star. I like Moncrief... he has done some good things. He is an above average number 2 WHEN healthy. But he isn't a top receiver. Maybe next year he shows us otherwise. We will see.
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On 3/22/2017 at 10:29 PM, BlueShoe said:
Moncrief isn't going anywhere.
Ballard wants to keep our own, and Donte fits us too well.
Aiken is on a one year deal so it's likely he will only be here a year.
I think if Aiken breaks out and has a better season than Moncrief than Donte very well might be gone. Just because we drafted him and he is one of our own doesn't mean we will overpay for him.
Now, I think Moncrief will be fine. If he is healthy. He will do good things. But I wouldn't want to pay more than 7.5 million for him.
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I'd take Lattimore, Humphrey, or Adams(I know he is a safety, but he is a star player) in a heart beat if they fell to us.
Will The Raiders Go To A Super Bowl Before They Move in 2018 or 2019?
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Yeah. The raiders have a good of chance as any team. The Pats are the only team in the league I think are clearly ahead of every other team right now.