Warhawk
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If the kid can hit, rush the QB, and stuff the run.....insert Metallica...."Nothing else Matters."
Hopefully that's the end result of all this.
I agree that it should be a non-issue, but the people complaining about this story on that basis are kinda ignoring that, the fact is, we've never had a gay NFL player who did not feel compelled, for one reason or another, to keep it a secret. Maybe not from friends, and rumors can get around, but the point is, you can't just jump from a state of complete denial to one where it legitimately doesn't make a difference and thus is a non-story without an intermediate period where a player announcing, basically, "I'm gay, so deal with it" is a story.
So for people complaining about this being a story - that's the POINT. This is a story so that the NEXT time a guy does this it WON'T be a story. It's a big deal, because it will result in it NOT being a big deal for others in the future. I mean, there was only one Jackie Robinson. That he was a black baseball player mattered, and the most important way it mattered was that it made the race of other players after him NOT matter. That's the point of this, too.
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Every one of those guys is going to get more money than their potential contribution would merit.
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It depends on how much media attention. If this guy receives Tebow levels of media attention for his entire career to where he is a bigger deal then the team in the media's eyes then it's gonna be a problem.
I maintain that Tebow could have landed a backup job someplace if the media didn't make the backup quarterback a bigger story then the team itself. But the circus that followed him made him not worth it. Tebow never really seemed to ASK for the media to follow him around like a deranged fan, but that's what he got.
Hopefully Sam is more talented then Tebow was. But if the media makes a big deal out of him for too long they could destroy his career.
I really don't know how the media is going to handle this. I'd love to get him as a steal in the late rounds with the hopes that the media will pack it up and move on to other things after a couple weeks of training camp. But I'm worried for him that the media could destroy his career.
The problem with Tebow is that we already know he's no more than a backup in the NFL. Additionally, he plays at a position where if the backup sees more than a handful of snaps, something has gone terribly wrong. Which means that media attention would be about a guy who isn't meaningfully contributing anyway. Additionally, if you have a young QB you believe in, you wouldn't want to sign Tebow, because of the likelihood that if your starter has a rough patch, Tebow's rather voracious following would be demanding he get to start.
A pass rusher, like Sam, is pretty much the polar opposite. Aside from, say, a scat back, it's the role where a guy who is, strictly speaking, a "backup", tends to make the most meaningful contribution to the team.
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I mostly agree with you but here is the thing I'm concerned about. Sam came out to his team that he'd been with for several years in August.
So they all knew this guy for a while before he came out to them.
That is a somewhat different situation then him coming into a locker room full of guys he doesn't know with everyone knowing he's gay.
And on top of that it sounds like they kept him being gay in house at Mizzou. That is of course a different situation from the entire world knowing about it.
As I said in my previous post, the media is the X factor here. If this is only a story for a week or 2 after training camp starts then it's no problem. However if the media is gonna follow this kid around for an entire season or several seasons then there is a huge problem.
They kept it in house because its his decision to make.
Anyway, I don't think media attention is a huge problem if he can contribute.
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Hmmm i think i would spend my first day at cheerleader auditions.............
Only valid answer.
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We just drafted Bjoern Werner last year, and Micheal sam is undersized for a DE or DT.
Well, Sam would be an OLB in our system, and he has almost the same height/weight as Bjoern. Could certainly be worth a look, since Mathis is getting older and Walden is only OK. Sam is a good pass rusher.
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I think we're overanalyzing this.
He's a good coach. The Colts with Rob Chudzinski are better than the Colts without Rob Chudzinski. Having a guy like him around to contribute in whatever way Pagano feels he can can only help.
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I wouldn't say "set", but I also wouldn't have a problem going into next season with the guys we have. We have much more immediate needs.
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could be looked at as the colts having an extra coach.
...and that would be a problem because?
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Sheldon Price anyone?
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Good move.
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For what it's worth, teams that win the Super Bowl on the strength of an all-time great defense, and are only average or below average on offense, such as the 85 Bears, 00 Ravens, and 02 Bucs, tend to have difficulty repeating their success. That's not to say that a good defense isn't important, but rather that approaching building a team by saying "we are going to win games by having a dominant defense" isn't a recipe for long-term success.
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That was fun! Gotta loved seeing Peyton playing godawful. Just think, Colts fans, you could still have him instead of the best young QB in the game!
Throwing ducks left and right; that first INT was easily the worst NFL throw I've ever seen. 5' over his WR, so lightly thrown that anyone could have caught it on the defense.
Well, his arm DID look really, really bad. Just awful.
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I'm glad a defensive player won it. Nothing against Wilson, I like him, but they could have dressed up a salmon in a Russell Wilson jersey and put him in the backfield and they still would have won by at LEAST 2 scores.
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So.
Uh...
Halftime show was pretty good.
Yep.
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Hooray for karma.
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Well, it's not especially funny, but that's just because the humor kinda sucks, not because of anything to do with Manning. I think you people are overreacting. Especially the ones calling it libel. That's just silly.
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Whether you like Caldwell as a coach or not may be irrelevant; the job is cursed.
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I'd rather he stay, but I wouldn't blame him if he took the job. That program has come a long way in the last few years.
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I'm actually a lot more relaxed than I was before the Chiefs game.
Not sure why.
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I yell a lot. Does that count?
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I see that it's all been laid bare.
Well, it's Pat's butt on the line.
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Yeah, that's all I got.
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The only thing to compare is both have won their divisions once and have the same playoff record 1-1.
Same as Matt Schaub, coincidentally.
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Here's my favorite part.
That 9-1 record in one-score games screams out as a statistical aberration, one that already started to correct itself in that Week 2 loss to the Miami Dolphins. As one national publication put it, “That’s more lucky than Luck.”Well, his overall record in one-score games now stands at 16-2. A far cry from the apparently looming "correction" this guy indicated was about to happen when that record stood at 10-2 after the Miami game.
Apparently the Colts are interested in Jonathan Martin.
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I couldn't stand Incognito before this incident for various reasons. The only guy I probably liked less was Cortland Finnegan. Just because he might have gotten a bit railroaded doesn't magically make him someone I admire.
As to the topic of the thread, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to some tire-kicking with a thought toward a vet minimum contract if one or both is a free agent, but I wouldn't trade a ham sandwich for either of these guys.