Flash7
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What could it hurt if they let it be known publically that they will draft Andrew Luck? It's clear that the Redskins have done this with RGIII. If people think that it will eliminate any offers for the first pick, the Colts already eliminated this as a possibility by releasing Manning. Currently our biggest need is a QB and that could be filled by Luck, one of the best prospects to come around in years. I go back to this, if they already know that they want to draft Luck, then go ahead and make it known. What do we gain by not doing this? We don't have to sign him for all of the mentioned reasons, but at least let Luck, the team, and the fans start to think ahead.
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Let's see, I have three contracts to choose from....The Bronocos...The Forty Niners...and The Titans. Yeah, let's move the Titans contract right here.
"Payton Manning?... Mr. Elway, I found another typo!"
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So if Luck got injured before the draft, you wouldn't draft him?Agreed. I thought it was pretty pointless and risky(could get injured before draft) to sign him before the draft, but the way things are shaking up with the Skins and RG3, its almost a 99.99 percent chance we choose Luck. Wouldnt mind signing him already and giving him the playbook. Since it looks like RG3 is a skin..
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We have greater needs than RB. Our lack of consistant rushing was due to lack of consistency in our OL.
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I guess that gets to the heart of the question. Would we sign him even if he was hurt?The thing is if we do not sign him, then we still have options. If we do sign him and he's hurt, then we are stuck with damaged goods and/or time away from the game rehabbing.
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Here is a myth about Andrew Luck. He has an esquilax. What's an esquilax you ask? It's a horse with the head of a dog, and the body of a dog.I was really hoping to read a myth here. Something like Andrew Luck is too busy on his unicorn ranch to sign a contract right now.
I'm disappointed.
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If there is minimal contract negotiations and the likely hood of Luck getting hurt remaining the same regardless of whethe we sign him now or not, who not sign him?
It appears to me that the only benefit of not signing him now would be:
1. The FO is really unsure of who they would like to sign, which is a little unlikely to me. I think they knew the direction that we are headed in.
2. The Colts can benefit from being in the spot light a little longer, making a small market team more relavent on the big stage of the NFL, especially without you know who!
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I think that you have to take into consideration the injury. A bum ankle isn't a big deal. A knee injury is a big deal but we've seen others bounce back from them, (brady.) With Manning we were considering his age, his 4 neck surgeries etc..One also is capable of playing at a high level. One you don't know.
The choice now wouldn't be between Manning and Luck, as Manning is already out. It's now, Luck or no Luck, or Luck or RGIII.
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1. By merely informing him that he will be the eventual choice, would this effect his ability to review the play book?I would like to differentiate between 2 separate things:
1) Have Irsay privately inform Luck that he will be the Colt's choice
2) Signing Luck to a contract.
I support doing (1) as soon as possible, after the decision is made.
I support initiating the negotiations for (2) in about 10 days from today.
2. Can he even receive the playbook at this time according to the CBA even if he were signed?
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I've heard that we should go ahead and sign Luck now and give him the play book so he can start to learn our offense. I've also heard that we shouldn't sign him because he may get injured or hurt before the draft. That lead me to think, if Andrew Luck gets injured before the draft, will that change your mind whether we should draft him or not? What if it were an ankle injury and what if it were a knee injury? In my opinion, an injury to Andrew Luck would just be a delay, and we shuld still draft him. Your thoughts?
(Not a jinx to Luck)
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I don't get all of the love for Darren Evans. It's not like our coaches haven't seen him play, run in games, and at practice. If he was that good he would be further along on the depth chart rather than third string or practice squad. I think he's had a few good runs but that's not taking into consideration all that he is expected to do on a weekly basis. Obviously he's not as good as we want him to be. We just hope that he gets a shot, but in reality he's had plenty of opportunities to prove himself and hasn't yet.
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I hope that he doesn't run the same steeler's offense. A good indicator of this may be if we hire Leftwhich to tutor Luck. This would indicate that we would be running something similar and would need someone with experience with that offense to teach Luck. I would rather have the Colt's high flying offense. It's so much more fun to watch.Yep. That's where it would have been sweet to have him sit a year behind Peyton and learn from the best. But I think Luck will be fine even without Peyton. Peyton didn't really have a QB to sit behind when he started in the league and he turned out great. I don't think Arians will run the offense the same way as in Pittsburgh. The two teams have very different personnel and QBs with very different skillsets.
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Ross is a fast, shifty WR that played at CAL during a time when they had horrible QB's, from 2008-2010.
His receiving numbers aren't impressive mainly due to the lack of quality QB's. He played with Jahvid Best and Shane Vereen, who were very good college RBs. They got a lot of the attention on offense. He has good hands, plays well in tight spaces, and of course as we've seen in the video, he can return kicks really well. I am very excited about picking him up.
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Actually more Colts representatives were at RGIII's pro day than at Luck's. I still prefer Luck, but wanted to clarify.O and from what some one posted RG3 didnt even come to a private work out. And we didnt go to his pro day
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Some people are saying that RGIII is not holding private workouts for any team. However, there are reports that both Luck and RGIII will hold private workouts for the Vikings. If this is true and RGIII will hold workouts for the Vikings and not the Colts, then he's making this really easy for Irsay.
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Not sure if this is a reliable source, but I wouldn't doubt that the Colts have reached out to the Luck camp and started negotiating. This is what a majority of us expect to happen anyway.
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I don't think that it had anything to do with Peyton personally, as he's confided in Peyton, requested advice from him and worked with him at the Manning passing academy. It's more that Luck would like to play and start. So would Manning. Both are extremely competitive, and Luck knows the history of back-ups behind Peyton. They do a great deal of film study to get Peyton ready and don't get much of an opportunity to take snaps during practice. This doesn't work for a guy like Luck who knows that the key to his success is also to take snaps at practice, in preparation to win.he didn't seem confident that him and peyton would get along
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I agree about the dysfunctionality of evaluating QB's.QB's are remembered and compared by only ONE measuring stick......... W's.
Right or wrong, it is how it is .
Montana and Brady are the GOAT by the ring thing.
When Marino, and Manning are the QB's who played on sub par teams, did the ALL the Heavy lifting and fell a bit short....
It's a totally dysfunctional way of evaluating "superiority" @ the QB position.
Perhaps the best way to to evaluate a QB is ask, "If you were starting a franchise, which QB would you like to have drafted to lead your team?" You can make a case that this would make people think about the QB's attributes rather than their "rings" because in this scenario, everyone would be starting out at square one. If you look at attributes only, Manning would definitely be at the top, along with Montana, Elway, and Marino.
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I would agree. When Orlovsky had a decent/good game, the Colts won.Yes I did watch the colts last year and where they suffered more was from poor qb play... the oline got better during the season so basically what hurt the colts was qb play
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I guess if he doesn't work out at QB, we can play him at linebacker.Enough said... Andrew Luck is the man! I know this is unrealistic at NFL standards, but you can at least see he comes to play!
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I agree with Chad72. I was impressed with both. I think that if RGIII is drafted second, he'll have a chip on his shulder and will play as if he has something to prove. Both RGIII and Luck will always be compared to one another once they enter the NFL. I thinlk largely what will seperate them is the teams that they're on. Right now, if RGIII goes to the Redskins, he would have the advantage of a team with a top 10 defense and a receiving corps that's shaping up nicely.
I am excited to see what this year's Colts will look like offensively and defensively. It's like a whole new team!
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Dallas can't effectively play his position with his injury. The wrist injury perhaps doesn't allow him to block as successfully as he once may have. This has made him even more one dimensional, and has greatly reduced his value.
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I will then ask you to watch the film that you have, and every time he drops back, objectively ask yourself does he throw to his first read? (Of course, there are plays when his first read is wide open and he throws to the open man, which is understandable.) My assertion is this: Because RGIII plays in a spread offense, the receivers are spread across the field and due to this, they are often facing single coverage. You and I know that a good receiver can usually beat 1-on-1 coverage and therefore RGIII's first read will usually be open. He hasn't relied on having to make a lot of reads in the system that he ran in college. That's why if you compare other spread attack QB's numbers to RGIII's, such as Graham Harrel's, Taylor Potts, or Keenum's you will see that they have completion percentages in the 70's. The offense is designed to take advantage of speedy receivers in 1on1 matchups. Now if other QB's have similar completion percentages and equal or greater TD's and less INT's, then they are better passers, right? But we discount Keenum, Harrel, etc... because of the system that they ran in college. The only difference with RGIII and those mentioned is his electrifying running ability, which may not be as much of an asset in the NFL.I've watched a # of Baylor games and am downloading others along with Stanford games. I've rarely seen the 1 read and run. The few times that stick out was due to pressure being there which disrupted the scanning the field progression.
While watching film on Luck, you can easily see Lucks head turn and scan the field when his first read is not open. You will notice that RGIII will look for his option and stare him down until he's open. There are instances where the play breaks down and he scrambles to afford more time, but inthe normal process of a play, he's one and done.
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The problem that I have with RGIII, (and I've stated this in other posts as well), is that he has a hard time going through his progressions. If you watch film on him, he looks at his first option, and if his first option is not open, he takes off running. This is partly the reason for the high rushing attempts. This will only be compounded in the NFL where receivers are not open and the QB must throw them open.I doubt he runs as much in the NFL. Arians/Shanahan will have their Elway/Roethlisberger boot package in for either QB, but I doubt RGIII will be running as much in the NFL.
Ryan Tannehill
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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Getting back on topic, I don't think that Tannehill is ready to start in the NFL. If he is drafted by Miami, yes they have Matt Moore, but I don't think that the fans have bought into him. If Moore has a bad game, they'll want Tannehill. Tannehill may get his shot as a rookie but will struggle mightily, ruining his confidence. Few come back from this, ala David Carr, Jimmy Clausen, etc..