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1st - Howard, 2nd - Feeney, 3rd (with trade up) - Mixon.
Sign Cam Thomas (NT), Perry Riley (ILB), Gerald Hodges (ILB), Darius Butler (SCB/FS), Nickell Robey-Coleman (CB), Latavius Murray (RB).
Cut Arthur Jones, Kendall Langford, Frank Gore.
Star CB, NT, OLB - next year.
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Zach Brown, Gerald Hodges, Perry Riley, Kevin Minter... One of them would be good, two of them would be great. Sean Spence and Jon Bostic are not starters.
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On 13.03.2017 at 8:11 PM, Defjamz26 said:
I too quickly did a mock as soon as the combine ended and now FA has shaken things up again. This mock is based on what has happened in FS and what I think will happen.
Draft:
Round 1: Hassan Reddick, ILB Temple: Sidney Jones was who I had us taking until the recent injury. Given how we've fixed OLB short term this is the next best pick. Reddick will be a defensive chess piece that doesn't have to come off the field and is more versatile than any other LB in this class. All the tools are there so this is a perfect spot to get him.
Round 2: Quincy Wilson, CB Florida: As I thought, it doesn't look like we're making any moves at CB in FA. Butler probably isn't getting resigned and Robinson was cut. The need for CB is great. Wilson is falling out of first round mocks and probably rightfully so. He's a better day 2 value and he probably has to play press CB at the next level with a 4.5 40. It'll work for us. Immediate starter at CB 2. (You can also put another CB who might be here in this slot)
Round 3: Marcus Williams, FS Utah: You absolutely cannot go into 2017 with Green as the top safety. So Ballard drafts a top guy to play center fielder. Williams has elite ball skills but will get overlooked by all the safeties who ran sub-4.5 40s. He's physical in both the run and pass game and can be a future leader.
Round 4: Cameron Sutton, CB Tenn.: An overlooked prospect who was often injured during his collegiate career. He's 5'11" with short arms so I'm predicting he gets kicked inside to nickel. Butler won't be back so he may have to play early. But like Butler he's flexible and can do a lot of things for you
Round 4: Wayne Gallman, RB Clemson: A jack of all trades, master of none type of player. Gallman is a guy that you get creative with and give 15-20 touches to. He also had underrated power in his game and can run between the tackles. (You can put any RB you think will be available here)
Round 4: Jarron Jones, DL Norte Dame: Had him in my last draft. Doesn't look like we're getting Poe and no one knows what we're doing with Parry. Jones can play 5-tech and possibly NT. 6'6" is big for a NT but he can probably two-gap. Shows enough power to 1-gap as well though as they had to triple team him against Miami.
Round 5: Elijah Lee, ILB Kansas State: A combine snub who has terrific size at 6'3" 220. Has a frame to handle another 10-20 pounds if you want. Tackling form needs work and he's only just scratched the surface of his potential in coverage. He brings immediate competition to a weak LB group and can play STs while he grows.
No pass rushers? Sheard and Simon are both relatively young and will buy the Colts 2-3 years to find future studs. Mingo could break out, although it's a long shot. But there's no sense of reaching for a pass rusher. Garrett and Thomas will be gone before our picks. Taco isn't a scheme fit and Barnett might go before us. Tak and Harris aren't necessarily top 15 players. It's more important to improve our LB core and secondary because there are bigger holes there. I don't see Ballard making any more moves so that's where his focus will be in the draft probably. The safety and CB class is deep and Reddick is a can't miss player.
Ballard is going young and our first 5 picks are probably all starters. Remember guys, You don't have to solve all the problems in 1 draft. We can get a true NT next year and start seeing what we need to have dominant trench players.
Actually, he is a "can miss player".
https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-haason-reddick-lb-temple/
"Missed 15 tackles on only 76 attempts in 2016 and missed 28 on 150 attempts over last three seasons".
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Looks like all top ILBs are waiting Hightower to sign his contract. Perry Riley, Gerald Hodges, Zach Brown, Kevin Minter...
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13 hours ago, Majin Vegeta said:
Not FA related but
Nice. Btw, Simon already owns #51.
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32 minutes ago, SaturdayAllDay said:
Kevin Minter appears to be above average in coverage, but very hit and miss. I wasnt able to find his qb rating against him but lots of PFF grades to go off of. He had 5 games where he graded out very good, and 4 games where he graded poorly. Overall on the season PFF ranked him the 25th LB with an overall grade of 81, mainly due to his good grades in coverage. My main worry with Minter would be that his tackling appears to be suspect, with 20 missed tackles in 2016.
Zach brown is also good in coverage, giving up a qb rating or 61 in 2015, good for 3rd among LBs, and PFF ranked him as a top 10 breakout player in 2016, giving him the top defensive grade for the bills front 7, at 84.1 due to his coverage skills and a marked improvement over his run stuffing ability. He saw a decline in his grades over the last half of this season though, with only 2 above average grades in his last 8 games. Not sure what to attribute that to, maybe he was dinged up a bit or maybe he just stopped trying, but it raises questions that need to be answered.
Overall both players are good in coverage and would be interesting additions, but both have a few question marks that would have to be looked into. At the right price they could be great pickups though. I like brown over minter personaly simply because our team has enough issues with tackling and brown showed a high tackle percentage over the last few years.
Hope that info helps!!
Thanks a lot!
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44 minutes ago, SaturdayAllDay said:
Alright so it turns out that the Colts advanced coverage stats are more elusive than I would have thought. I will continue looking later today but I thought I would come in with some other information for comparison that gives a little of perspective in the meantime
Keuchly has been sitting around a 50 passer rating his way over the last few years which is the best mark in the NFL for LBs. His salary for 2017 is currently at 12.7M, which is around the price tag that Hightower is speculated to command.
QBs have an 87.3 Passer rating when throwing against Gerald Hodges of SF, who also graded as the 13th Run defender in the NFL as well as the 10th best pass rusher for MLBs. He will definitely come cheaper than 12M/yr, with his market value being speculated at 4-6M/ Yr. That being said he put up a QB rating of 114.3 the year before, so the question arises as to whether this was a statistical anomaly or is it simply him coming into his stride. I would guess that it is the latter, as he has been improving over the last few years, Giving Qb ratings of 125.5, then 114.3 and then 87.3 in the last 3 years.
I am not implying that Hightower is a bad player, because that would be a lie. He is a great run defender and below average pass defender that makes up for it by having some pass rush ability. I like him, I am just not sure I like him enough to pay him like he is a Keuchly level player. If his price tag went down to like 7-9M/ Yr I would be all for it.
What about Zach Brown and Kevin Minter? Are they good in coverage?
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Let's trade Dorsett to Arizona for Fitz and 3rd. Just like Browns trade for Osweiler. Arians likes speedsters (Avery), and Arizona needs cap space badly. Then sign T.J. Lang and Robert Turbin, draft Howard and Mixon, cut Gore. :))
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DT/DE: Cut Arthur Jones, sign Lawrence Guy (2 years).
NT: cut Parry, do not resign Kerr, sign Cam Thomas (2-3 years).
OLB: sign Jabaal Sheard/John Simon as a starter (4 years), Jarvis Jones/Alex Okafor as rotational (2-3 years).
ILB: Hightower or Minter (4 years).
OG: T.J. Lang (4 years).
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Mr. Ballard, please sign Kevin Zeitler or T.J. Lang. Don't wait to see Mewhort injured or Haeg/Good playing bad.
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Double post.
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Ridgeway and McGill are as good as Jones... and are paid less. Even 2 mil. is too much for depth player. Cut Jones (post June 1 desig.) and Langford, save 10 mil. (+5 mil. for Jackson, +2 for McAfee), sign Calais Campbell and Brandon Williams (BAL). Starters: Anderson, Williams, Campbell. Depth: McGill, Parry, Ridgeway, Kerr. + rookie ILB, rookie P. Same money. Better players.
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Cut/do not resign: A. Jones, D. Jackson, T. Cole, R. Mathis, H. Thornton, S. Tolzien, J. Reitz, K. Langford, E. Walden.
Resign: J. Doyle, M. Adams, D. Butler.
Questionable: F. Gore, D. Allen, V. Davis, P. Robinson.
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Not THAT bad.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-entering-week-5-2/
Luck holds the ball, on average, longer than all but one other QB in the league, and the line actually has a couple of solid performers. LT Anthony Castonzo has been good, ranking 14th in the PFF’s OT grades with a mark of 81.5, while G Jack Mewhort (82.6) ranks 10th among guards.
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Season is not over. Nor is life.
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How is it possible?
PFF week 1.
Ryan Kelly 79.3.
Anthony Castonzo 78.0.
Denzelle Good 75.6.
ColtsLegacy week 1.
Anthony Castonzo 82.1.
Jack Mewhort 75.5.
Ryan Kelly 75.6.
Denzelle Good 78.9.
Joe Reitz 54.3.
PFF week 2.
Ryan Kelly 78.9.
Jack Mewhort 76.7.
Joe Reitz 64.9.
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6 minutes ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:
I remember grigson using his higher round draft picks on skill positions. Other than a project first rounder in Werner didn't make sense then or now.
What does my short memory have to do with me being gm who would have used his first 3 picks in the first 2 drafts (beyond luck) for oline? Not a 3rd and a 4th round. You just proved my point by saying our GM takes our oline as seriously as a 3rd and 4th rounder coming into the colts organization with a MAJOR oline problem as it was to begin with. He has literally done nothing to help this oline beyond finding quick fixes. And mediocre over the hill players with injury histories.
This is my problem with our GM and it has always been my problem with him. His best draft so far was his current one with Kelly. Should have happened from the get go. Arguing against this is pure lunacy.
we have an * GM on our hands who has put our coaching staff, and our players, in a position to fail. Therefor you see people getting mad about pagano making certain calls.
if you went trenches to begin with, you would see a lot of these mistakes cleaned up. Not because they realize the mistake, but because they have the personnel to control TIME OF POSSESION.
Evan Mathis was 79th pick. Jahri Evans was 108th pick. Larry Warford was 65th pick. Gabe Jackson was 81th pick. Kelechi Osemele was 60th pick. There are a lot of good C and G in rounds 2-4. And a lot of 1st round C and G are overrated: Jonathan Cooper, Chance Warmack, Danny Watkins.
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1 hour ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:
Should have drafted oline after Andrew luck and also the next draft done the same. Then dline. The games are won in the trenches as you can see from that strip sack at the end. But I guess that's why I'm no GM. I want to win.
Short memory. Grigson signed Donald Thomas (OG) and Gosder Cherilus (OT), spent 3rd round pick on Hugh Thornton (OG) and 4th round pick on Khaled Holmes (C) in 2013. Basically Grigson assembled full OL in 2013. Castonzo-Thomas-Holmes-Thornton-Cherilus. Sad, they were always injured.
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They tried to sign him. He rejected their 12 mil., 3 year offer, found cold market and signed with the Bears the same contract.
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6 hours ago, Gavin said:
Mcnary-38.8
Morrison-68.4.....His 72.3 run grade bumped his overall grade up and 60.0 pass rush grade. He only had 11 snaps.
I believe Grigson and Pagano look to him to be Jacksons replacement in the next year maybe two at the most. Jacksons dead cap hit(what it would cost next year to cut him) next year is just $250,000.00 compared to $5,750,000 cap hit if he is on the roster next year
Thanks.
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15 hours ago, ColtsLegacy said:
They've updated the rankings and they're quite different now. I assume they saw the all 22.
TEs:
DA 79.1 overall. Good for 5th best
Doyle 78.6 overall. Rank 6
Fleener 40.8. Rank 42 (sorry, couldn't help myself)
For comparison, the best TE was Greg Olsen with 83.2 overall
WRs:
Hilton 78.8
Moncrief 74.3
Dorsett 73
CBs
Rasaan Melvin 83.2. Rank 10
Cromartie 81.2
Robinson 48.8
Darryl Morris 46.8
Safeties
Adams 75.1
Green 71.7
Guy 45.8
ILBs
Moore 78.2
DQ 38.6
OLBs
Cole 68.2
Mathis 44.4 (I don't recall one spin move)
Walden 40.0
Dline (if you have children in the room you may want to avert their eyes at this time)
Parry 48.6
McGill 44.6
Ridgeway 44.5
Langford 40.6
Kerr 38.2
Yeah, their suckatude was more than evident. Get well soon, Henry. We need you to play all 3 positions all at once.
Oline
AC 82.1
Mewhort 75.5
Kelly 75.6
Good 78.9
Reitz 54.3 (I guess he didn't hold up after further review, he was 72 previously)
If you'd like to see any other grades, let me know.
Morrison? McNary?
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It is very funny to read first 7 pages of game day thread now. Fire him, fire them, dumb this, dumb that, cut him, and him, and him too...
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7 minutes ago, BOTT said:
Getting a job doesn't mean you are good at it. Heard of Matt Millen?
Yes. And never of you.
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1 hour ago, BOTT said:
Poor Grigson. He's done such a great job and people are just blind to it.
Poor people. They are so good at coaching, scouting, drafting and this Grigson guy get GM job.
If you could pick, who you want to see the Colts pick in the Draft
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Why? Imagine Hilton is hurt. Or Mewhort. Or Doyle. Offense is closer to being fully functional. Defense full of rookies (NT, ILB, CB, S) will not be functional anyways.