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13 hours ago, King Colt said:
Seems to me I heard streaming was large.
Apparently Tv views were down but Streaming numbers were up 31%, according to a tweet from Irsay yesterday.
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8 hours ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
Some of the guys on here that are a little more knowledgeable about trading picks, their value, and all of that stuff...what are the Colts opportunities if they decide to trade up? I mean, could they trade all the way up and make a run at a Quinnen Williams or Josh Allen? If so, what would it take? I know I've read several times on here that they could most likely trade into the teens (if the right guy fell) by sending their 2nd (the Jets, I think)...so, was curious what the possibilities are?
Most of us on here use the pick value chart that is said to be the approximate blueprint for trading picks. Of course there are other variables to consider (depends who is on the board and what both GMs feel is worth it to get/not get the players on the top of their list).
Chart can be found here (with our picks and their values highlighted):
https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Ind
Also its worth noting that when calculating future picks into the equation, their point value is usually counted as mid round pick of the round after it. So our first rounder next yr would have the same point value as the 48th pick in this draft (420 points).
Hope that helps you figure out what kind of deal it could theoretically take!!
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I think this graphic shows with irrefutable proof who will win
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1 hour ago, shastamasta said:
If penalty celebrations are now the measure of a malcontent player...then there are lot of guys who should never be Colts (including some already on the roster).
It's one thing to not want AB for some of these things...but my issue was with the poster saying AB was worst than TO or Moss. That's just ignorant. Moss forced his way off multiple teams...and TO was literally crazy. If social media existed then like it does now...who knows what would have happened with those two.
I definitely dont think hes worse, but its worth noting that AB has been going to TO for advice. That seems a bit worrisome.
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Not advocating this myself but it seemed relevant. Thought I'd share.
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9 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
I don’t see how this would even work. Some refs let the ticky tacky stuff go others call everything. This ref missed what could of been three penalties on this one play. You can’t review every PI call. In a way it’s a judgement call.
Sure maybe you could use a challenge flag if they let them I guess. But what happens when they review it. Will something tiny be called or will it have to be obvious. I just don’t see it.
CFL has been reviewing PI calls for a few years now and it seems to not be an issue. Follows similar rules for challenges, in that it usually has to be obvious to overturn the original call. If its called PI on the field it has to be obvious that it wasnt to overturn it, and vice versa.
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2 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
Tanking would cheat the fans. People don't go to games to watch their team lose on purpose, or buy jerseys etc from poor players. And you do know regular season ticket (including luxury/premium and walk up) sales are important to day to day team operations. There is shared revenue in the NFL, but the differences between the best and worst are in local revenue generated. (what the Cowboys bring in versus the Raiders for example). Teams are even lowering concession prices to lure in more fans. Tanking would undermine that.
Not only would it cheat the fans, but it influences veteran players seeking new contracts on other teams as well as free agents potentially coming tou your team later. If you have a ton of recent tape of your team getting killed every week (or no tape at all becaused you were benched for a rookie) it will lower your value on the open market. Good luck getting decent free agents if all the players (or more importantly, their agents) believe that you will bench them when the going gets tough, potentially tanking their value for their next contract.
That doesnt even touch on the possibility of those draft picks you tanked for leaving immediately after their rookie deal because that same agent who represented those vets during the tank represents the draft picks as well and convinces them to move on for fear of their market value being tanked down the line as well.
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This is my understanding of scripts, what I was taught throughout my life playing football, what I have used it for as a coach, and what I assume it would be used for at a professional level based on what I know.
There maybe other reasons and things I am missing but this is probably a good starting point.
As far as I know, the game script is typically used for 3 main reasons.
The first is that they get a chance to see how the defense reacts to a handful of different looks and situations, which helps give coaches a chance to see what the defense has gameplanned against them, and how best to beat what they are doing.
The second reason that scripts are used are to show certain looks to the defense so that they key in on these looks. They do this so that they can exploit it later by adding a different wrinkle into the play.
Example: over the course of the first 10 plays, the Colts run a couple quick hitches to Hilton which he takes for moderate gains. The defense then starts looking for that Hitch route from that formation and a well timed pump fake causes them to bite on what they think is another Hitch, but is actually a Hitch and Go route, giving Hilton a huge gain and potentially a touchdown.
The third reason as to why a script could be used has less to do with schemes and more to do with getting a young or struggling QB some easy plays to build up their confidence and/or get them into a good rhythm to start the game. Using scripted plays gives the QB lots of reps in those specific plays during the week and has them better prepared to make the correct reads, as they can try it many times against a bunch of different defensive looks (zone, man, blitz, etc)
The 15 number you hear is really just an average. Depending on the game plan and the coach it will differ anywhere from 8 to about 20 plays. Also the script can be abandoned at any time based on what they see, as they could have found a way to exploit the defense after only 9 plays when they scripted 16, but even then they ususally stick with it to see what other concepts are going to work (or they can decide to do a few plays off script and then go back to it). They typically wouldnt abandon the script early if things werent working, as the script often has a bunch of different things they want to try to do. If play #2 was an INT on a play where the 1st read was a Wheel Route to Hines out of the backfield, it wont have much bearing on play #3 in the script, which has a crossing route to Hilton as the 1st read. That being said, they may decide that play #2 didnt work, so they may skip it if it was repeated later in the script (if it is also play #8 and play #13).
Hopefully this info helps your understanding. Lmk if you have questions and I will answer to the best of my ability.
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1 hour ago, Smonroe said:
Practice Squad Eligibility: "Only players with two or fewer accrued seasons can sign to the practice squad, though they can’t stay on it for more than three seasons. A season is considered accrued when a player is on an active roster for at least six games."
So, I'm not sure how the Colts can even put him on the PS. He was active for all of 2016 and for 7 games this season.
"The NFL has tweaked its rules for practice squad eligibility in recent years. In 2014, the NFL and NFLPA agreed to a rule that expanded the practice squad roster limits from eight to 10 players. In addition, teams previously were allowed just two of the 10 practice squad spots to be filled by players who had two or more years of experience on an NFL roster. Now, that number has been increased to four players."
Per this link
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8 hours ago, twfish said:
Thank you very much, has some very good information. Hopefully he can get video on the prospects linked too it
There are some vids linked already but the list could definitely be updated with more 2018 film. Hoping that will come together as the offseason approaches.
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I havent really started up my in depth scouting this year, but last year there was a guy on Reddit (CalhounLambeau) who stepped up and essentially made a spreadsheet version of Draft Breakdown.
His 2019 list on a Google Doc can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bu7VCs3ld5efCR3fDjj_vM09KjYbY_SBDkdJHRJPOew/edit?usp=sharing
Not quite as good as Draft Breakdown, but the closest I came as far as an alternative.
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These next 2 games without Al Woods could very well show whether or not we need more investment in the DT position.
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3 minutes ago, dodsworth said:
Good post. I guess we will find out how much he means to this
defense Sunday unfortunately. We obviously need a high pick
in the draft on the NT position for quality depth next season.
I'm not being a Debbie downer about this situation but lineplay
in the NFL is highly underrated.
I am excited to see how the young guys step up in Woods absence. That will be the position I watch all day on defense this week. But I would be very excited to see the Colts get a first round gem at NT to add to that rotation for next yr.
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Despite how well our defense has played this year, our one problem seems to be covering the short passing game, particularly against the RB position (we apparently have given up the 2nd most receptions to RBs). Unfortunately, that seems to be Barkleys main strength (although the last few weeks hes been in a bit of a slump). Not only does he have good hands, but hes proven to be hard to bring down in the open field. Could be tough for us to keep him contained in the pass game.
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1 minute ago, dodsworth said:
Unfortunately this is true if they pull
A lineman.
While it is especially true in the event of a pulling lineman, it could even be something as simple as a "Scoop/Shovel/Combination" block (depending on offensive terminology). If our DT cant stop the OG/OT (depending on playcall) from chipping off and getting to the 2nd level, then Leonard will have to beat him to get to the ball carrier
This link shows a decent Scoop by the C/RG, against a very similar formation to our Nickle Defense.
In our defense, it would typically be the DTs job to not let that OG get to the 2nd level. It takes Woods out of the play, but in doing so takes out 2 interior Lineman and frees up Leonard to shoot the gap and make a play. Woods is particularly good at this kind of stuff and I feel like his loss will be a decent blow to our defense.
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56 minutes ago, dodsworth said:
In training camp, big Q got a taste of the NFL when he tried
to move Woods with a double team and failed miserably.
He will be missed in the D line rotation and will have a HUGE
impact on short yardage situations.
I look for Leonard to make even more tackles as RB'S make
it to the 2nd level more frequently. Hope I am wrong.
In regards to the bolded, the other issue that could arise is that without Woods there to take these double teams so effectively, there is a higher chance of offensive lineman making it to the second level and making blocks on Leonard. Hes might not look as dominant when he doesnt have as many clean paths to the ball carrier.
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5 hours ago, Shive said:
The Pro-Bowl never really bodes well for 4-3 OLBs, since they do just a general OLB spot. Honestly, I think they need to do an EDGE position like they do at the combine so pass rushers are grouped with other pass rushers and off-ball OLBs aren't snubbed.
The only player I see potentially beating him out for DPOY is Derwin James, because he's been a force at the Safety position.
You don't think Chubb has a shot? Pass Rushers always seem to get the most attention. I think Chubb has a good shot at the rookie sack record, if he gets that, then DROY is going to be his unfortunately.
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52 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:
I want to believe that several of our early games where the result of having a young team that had to learn how to finish games. Add to that Luck was still trying to get his rhythm back.
I want to believe that the team if they played the games now would have beaten the Eagles and the Jets.
You can also add the fact that they were all still learning all the intricacies of the new schemes, as well as learning to gel with all the new players around them. As the team has become more comfortable with the schemes and each other, our team has really started to grow into itself.
I personally believe that we havent even seen the full potential yet. After a full offseason for our rookie class and more time in the system for everyone else, I hope we come out swinging next yr and make a serious run as a contender.
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13 minutes ago, CR91 said:
I dont get how Geathers can practice fully then not practice at all
Rest day perhaps?
Assuming they dont want him pushing it and aggravating something.
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31 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Wait a minute..... hold EVERYTHING!!
The Jeremy Fowler tweet supports MY POSITION, NOT YOURS!
My view is he went elsewhere for more. You said we offered more and he turned us down for less. That tweet does NOT SAY THAT. It just says he ASKED FOR MORE. It doesn't say we OFFERED MORE.
He refused to sign with us unless we gave him the higher number he wanted, but he will play elsewhere for less. How is that not accepting less to play elsewhere? What we did or did not offer is regardless as his price tag to play here was higher than it was to play elsewhere. Which is also why Melvin and his agent didnt bother giving Ballard a chance to match any offer given to him.
I could understand your point of view if Melvin went a few weeks into free agency and begrudgingly took what was the best offer he was going to get, but he signed a couple days into free agency when teams were clearly still looking for CB help. It very much seems like he had a number he would take to play for us, and a lower number he would take to play for Oakland.
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3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
I’m completely confused.
Most posters here think we didn’t make Melvin an offer at all. Yet you think we made a bigger offer than the Raiders did and he turned down more to accept less? I’d need a link. My understanding is we asked him to shop around, get his best offer and let us see if we could beat it. But Melvin didn’t do that. He stiffed us and simply accepted the Raiders offer.
I never saw a figure that we offered to Jensen. Only that he left Indy without signing and signed with Tampa. Florida has no state tax, always an advantage. But I’ve never seen a number connected to the Colts.
As for Poe... he reportedly wanted a 5-year deal. We didn’t offer that and he signed a 1 or 2 year deal with Atlanta. Is someone claiming we offered 5-years and he turned that down for a very short deal elsewhere? Hard to believe.
Are there any links to support the idea that guys are turning down more money from the the Colts to go elsewhere for less? I’d love to see that... thanks.
The tweet reported on Poe is already posted above.
I do recall there being a tweet about Jensens decision being less about money and more about "fit", and ultimately choosing Tampa over us because we were committed to playing Kelly at Center (which was Jensens preferred position). That being said, I cant readily find it and have better uses of my time then finding a 6 month old tweet, especially when I cant recall who the tweet was from. Since Im not willing to put in the time to back this one up i dont really have a leg to stand on for this one. Consider this example stricken from the record!!
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20 minutes ago, gspdx said:
How about Brissett and some picks next year to the Giants for Barkley?
Wouldnt happen. They obviously liked Barkley more than any of the QBs in the draft. No reason to think they are that much higher on Brissett.
If we were looking to deal for a RB, Id be making a call to the Steelers about a potential Brissett/Bell trade though. Ben seems to be on his last leg and they could use some competition for Rudolph next yr. Gives them the 2019 season to see if Rudolph is the answer, or a chance to resign him as the starter if Rudolph falters.
We get Bell and maybe a conditional 3rd round pick in 2020 if hes not on our roster week 1 of next year. That way even if Bell walks after this yr we get a comp pick plus the conditional pick in 2020.
I doubt Ballard would do it, but for all the people out there clamoring for Bell, it seems like a good way to get him here.
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1 hour ago, jchandler7 said:
Im know, i just didn't go into full detail. However, here goes...I would like the Colts to cut Pascal, sign Fountain to active roster. Then if/when Pascal clears waivers sign him to PS to take Fountains spot. Basically just swapping spots so we can see what Fountain can do. In 27 targets Pascal has 14 catches, 13 drops = not good. The reason I'd keep him on PS is because he knows the play book.
Thats not how that works....
Pascal is officially credited with 3 drops. The rest were incomplete passes that were deemed not on target, or otherwise not the obvious fault of the WR. Still not great as hes tied for 11th in the NFL for drops currently. Its a team wide problem, with Ebron having 6 drops, Rodgers having 3, and Grant/Hines/Hilton each recording 2 so far.
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Colts sign... Bell and DeMarcus or Flowers
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2017- Calais Campbell on the Jags. 25 sacks in the last 2 seasons.