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2 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:
Can someone explain to me how this works? If the Cowboys cannot get a deal done and Tag him, what option does that leave the Colts in regards to trying to acquire him?
Depends on the tag that they give him (each explained below)
- "An exclusive franchise tag means a team will pay that player no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position, or 120 percent of the player's previous salary, whichever is greater. The player is not allowed to negotiate with other teams."
- "A nonexclusive franchise tag involves the same salary offer as an exclusive franchise tag, only the player can negotiate with other teams. The player's current team can match any offer sheet. If the old team declines to match the offer, it gets two first-round picks from the other team as compensation. This is the more commonly used franchise tag."
- "By applying the transition tag, a team offers the player a salary that is the average of the top 10 salaries at his position. That player can negotiate with other teams. The player's original team has the right of first refusal to match any offer given to a transition-tagged player by another team. If the original team decides to retain the player, it must agree to the contract terms offered by the other team. If the original team decides not to match the offer and the player leaves, it receives nothing in compensation. A team can use the transition tag only if it hasn't used the franchise tag in a given offseason."
Regardless of which tag is given, we also have the option to trade for him after he is tagged.
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6 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
Your words were a ton of sacks. and Jacoby was holding the ball for 6 plus seconds.
That is a total exaggeration. The Colts have been at the bottom of the league in giving up sacks for over 4 years in a row. We went through 5 QBs in one of those seasons. I guess they were all holding the ball to long.
We were also 5th in Time to Throw for our QB this yr, and tied for 3rd last yr. So the OL has been giving ample opportunity for the QB to get the ball out, yet we are the leading the league in sacks. At some point the finger has to be pointed elsewhere.
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1 hour ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
Why would buffalo wanna give up that much for a non QB?
Why wouldnt Buffalo be targeting a QB?
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Why do people keep assuming Gordon will hit FA??? Hes a RFA with next to nothing on his tender. Cleveland would be mental to just let him walk. Best case scenario they tender him and trade him to the highest bidder.
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I'll throw out a name that hasnt been brought up yet. Chris Petersen, HC of the UW Huskies. He has a 129-28 over his career and has had success with multiple teams. His team this year had the #1 rush defense in the nation, and I think if they manage to shut down Barkley in the Fiesta Bowl he could be a name that starts popping up as a potential candidate for a few teams. Not sure if he will actually want to leave for the NFL, though.
Hes not my first choice as our new HC, but there are plenty of worse options out there. I wouldnt be against it if we picked him up.
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Another name id throw into the ring is Paul Richardson from Seattle. Hes been one of those guys that seems to have not hit his peak yet (but has been steadily trending up), and could probably be had for less than some of the big names. He seems like a guy who could outperform his next contract.
I wouldnt want him over A-Rob, Landry or Watkins, but we probably need to bring in 2 guys anyways. He would be my ideal choice for our 2nd FA WR.
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37 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:
it appears we have 17 on the IR. Washington has about 20 and SF has nearly 2, NE has 14
There are a lot of team with more than 12 too
its bad league wide except with a few rare occasions
That list only includes the players CURRENTLY on our IR. It does not include any of the players we have waived with injury settlements. Looking at our transaction list, we have sent a whopping 34 players to IR this year. Admittedly, the same could be happening with these other teams as well, keeping their numbers down, I dont really have the time to sift through every teams transactions pages. But it does seem like we have waived a higher than usual number off of our IR list.
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Just now, MasterCrief said:
We're also one blown halftime lead from tying the all-time record for a single season. So, that's two things we're leading the league in
Leading the league in sacks given up as well.
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Josh Gordon will finish this season with less than 6 games played, not earning him an accrued season. That leaves him at 2 official accrued seasons, which should leave him as an ERFA for the Browns, should it not? Thats what his upcoming status is listed as on Sportrac.
If thats the case, why would Cleveland let him walk when they have him locked up for another 2 seasons for pennies on the dollar? ERFA salary is minimum salary, and then next yr hes a RFA, which should be just over 4M for a 1st round tender.
Seems like a bit of a pipe dream at this point....
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4 hours ago, csmopar said:
source?
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#yards
Time to Throw (TT) is currently averaged at 2.83 seconds per play. Which on that list, ranks 7th. Last year we were 4th at 2.88 seconds per play.
Unfortunately they are being asked to do the impossible, with Chud designing plays that take 3+ seconds to develop, WRs having issues getting separation, and Brissett holding onto the ball probably longer than he should.
I still wouldnt mind grabbing some more talent for the OL for next yr, but I think a better scheme and a bigger, more physical target at WR will do wonders for the offense.
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2 hours ago, PeterBowman said:
scratch that..Hooker is just outside the top 10 in the league in interceptions STILL (and has missed almost half the season.........http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&conference=null&season=2017&seasonType=REG
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Still the INT leader for rookies too. Tied with Tre'Davious White (BUF) and Justin Evans (TB)
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2 hours ago, Trace Pyott said:
Ok since it's been a rough year and not too much good to talk about I figured this might be fun. If we had awards to give out who would get them and why?
award 1. Offensive mvp
awatd 2: Defensive mvp
award 3: Over all MVP
award 4: most improved colt.
Award 5. Most disappointing colt.
So yah let me know what your choices are for each category. I'm not going to lie it's kinda hard lol, it's like picking if you want to die by gunshot, knife wound, drowning or explosion, they all kinda suck lol.
I can't really think of one guy on offense and defense that really sticks out. I mean I guess Hilton or doyle would be my MVP but both have cost us games or disappeared. On defense I can't really name a guy who just wreaks havoc consistently. I would prob have said hooker had he played all year long but that didn't happen. I can remember during the manning era it would of been so much easier. On offense it was Peyton no question, and defensively we had 2 or 3 guys each year thst really stood out from the rest like Mathis , freeney, and the BOB. Now it seems we just have a bunch of guys who are avg or below avg but no one that on every play you watch closely because you know he's going to do something important. Could this be why we are horrible, we lack the "team MVP standouts" that we had in the past?
Partially. Its just a deficiency of talent in general. We dont really have the top shelf elite guys and the few potentially elite players we do have (Luck, Kelly, Hooker, maybe even Simon) have been hurt. We also dont have a lot of quality depth/role players, which puts more pressure on the few above average pieces we have.
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5 hours ago, csmopar said:
i wonder if there is a scheme issue between the type of plays that Chud runs and the schemes for the OL. I dont even know if that makes sense but just a random thought
I personally think that the scheme Philbin has brought in is very sound and has a lot of potential for being able to overcome a lot of different defensive looks, but it seems like it needs a very wide ranging skillset that a lot of our current players just dont have. Chuds offense does put a lot of pressure on them, which magnifies the problem, but I think there are deeper issues at work as well.
We seem to run a mix of Man/Zone blocking concepts and have a mix of players who excel in either one or the other, but very few who have the skills for both (only AC/Kelly, if anybody). The problem that arises is that we will always have players on the field who are not playing to the scheme that gives them the greatest chance for success. When we run a zone play, our slower/stronger players are at a disadvantage and when we run a man play our athletic/weaker players are at a disadvantage.
Part of the problem is that they dont have the proper personnel for one or the other (which isnt really Philbins fault) and he seems to be trying to figure out a way to make it work. Its not really working, but you have to give props for trying to make due with what hes got, especially considering all the new faces coming in due to injuries and the fact that the OC insists on making it as hard as possible for the OL. Its not an easy job and hes at least trying to make adjustments, which is more than we can say about any other coach on the team.
It seems like it would make more sense to start by constructing a line that can do one scheme really well before we start trying to put square pegs in round roles. Especially with a lot of young guys in the mix.
If we get a young group of lineman that all excel in zone blocking, it doesnt mean that they cant eventually work in some man concepts once they get comfortable in their zone skills at an NFL level as a unit, and have some time to work on strength programs with the trainers. The same goes for if we started with a group that was more suited for a man scheme. We could work in zone concepts after they have time to get comfortable in the man scheme and have time to work on conditioning/ shedding a little weight if necessary.
TL/DR: I think Grigson was a bad GM and wouldnt commit to looking for OL to fit any particular scheme, which has left Philbin in a tough position trying to pick up the pieces and make it work. Injuries and Chud havent helped either.
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1 hour ago, jshipp23 said:
Never said not to draft o-line.. I would prefer Barkely, or Chubb at OLB with a top 5 pick...Draft a guard in 2nd and bring in a tackle and guard in FA...
Any particular FA Tackles you have your eye on? Doesnt look like much of a selection this yr.
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3 hours ago, Jaric said:
Question for the people still thinking about playoffs
Not to be mean, but do you guys watch the games?
I dont think we will make the playoffs (nor do we deserve to), but I mean technically we arent eliminated.
This time last week Cleveland was still in the playoff hunt
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-playoff-picture-browns-elimination-scenarios
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1 hour ago, King Colt said:
Not criticizing him but there are many alternatives to him plus he will not be unemployed for any length of time and he commands talent if traded. If he stays that is fine with me but he should be valuable on the grading block and the Colts need talent.
How do we go about trading him??
Hes a free agent at the end of this season....
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11 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Shasta.....
Here is Gore's Spotrac page. Perhaps I'm not reading it right. But to me, it looks like it's saying there was a 3.5 Mill cap hit if we cut him before this year.
Check it out and tell me what you think. Again, I thought I read what you were saying. That we could cut Gore without a financial hit. But his page seems to imply otherwise....
Your thoughts?
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/frank-gore-3338/
If you look at his contract notes, it doesnt say anything about his 2017 numbers being guaranteed at signing, or about them being guaranteed as of a certain date (like the 5th day of the league yr or something like that).
My assumption is that his full 2017 base salary shows as guaranteed now because he was on the roster as of week 1, and as a vested veteran has the option to take his entire seasons salary if we decided to cut him.
Here is his contract page on OTC.
https://overthecap.com/player/frank-gore/94/
While I usually prefer Sportrac for contract info (as its usually way better at staying up to date on bonuses and such), OTC does have one interesting feature that helps in this case. It lets you know cap savings had we cut him prior to June 1st, while Sportrac will only tell us what happens if we cut him today. Notice that the dead cap for a pre June 1st cut is $0, with a savings of $3.5M.
Hope that potentially clears things up.
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8 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:
I wouldn't be interested in Kubiak because of his health. His health I believe is why he had to quit coaching in the first place.
Another very good point to bring up.
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6 minutes ago, krunk said:
They brought that system in to keep their QB from getting killed. Plus PM couldn't throw anymore. They honestly weren't even all that concerned about offensive production and it was obvious. The intent was to have PM manage the game and lean on the D.
Thats actually the opposite. Kubiak has always ran a bootleg style offense, but started moving away from it because PM couldnt run it. It wasnt something he brought in for PM. He went back to it in 2016 with Seimian/Lynch, and it was when his offense really dropped off.
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