18Manning
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I second everything Jules said...
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There was some speculation that maybe he had a dead arm after the ravens game. If he is healthy I'm sure he will go
I meant to add that to my original response (wouldn't miss unless a physical reason).
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I doubt either he or Peyton go..
I could be wrong, but I don't think Peyton has ever missed becasue he was eliminated from the playoffs (assuming that's what you mean). Anyone know any different?
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I hate to admit, but since the Colts and Peyton/Denver were knocked out of the playoffs, I set my home page to Google (don't have to see the headlines, etc.). I didn't want to see all the rah rah rah about NE. I respect NE and Brady, I just get tired of them. Finally, a Super Bowl I can enjoy even though one of the teams I wanted to see isn't in there.
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Brady did play like crap. Think about this, Adam missed a FG when we played Baltimore. Luck on the road as a rookie with no protection actually just scored 1 less point then the Pats offense did.
Wow.
I feel bad for Manning tonight since I honestly think that if the Broncos won the game last weekend they had a real shot vs. NE in Denver with probably better weather and the rust shaken off.
Me too. I don't think Peyton/Denver would have had too much trouble getting that win. After all, they hung right in there with the team that just smoked NE at home.
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Yeah, but now we have two weeks of incessant Ray Lewis blather.
At least he's retiring...
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Yeah, but now we have two weeks of incessant Ray Lewis blather.
That is true, but I welcome the change.
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As much as I hate to say it. I want the Ravens to win it. Why, you ask?
Whether you believe in the Unitas or Baltimore curse or not, I believe the Colts win the SB only after the Ravens get ahead by 1 in the count. So, I am guessing big bro. John Harbaugh wins one in New Orleans, and then comes the Colts chance in the next few years. But then, Jim Harbaugh has the experience of already playing in NO this year. It is going to be interesting.
But just like Dungy beat Lovie Smith, the older coach wins, IMO.
Plus, to know the Super Bowl champ eliminated you makes it a little easier too (for both Colts and Manning/Denver fans).
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I will say, however, I will enjoy this Super Bowl a little more without having to listen to all the Brady hype. Again, no disrespect to you NE fans and Brady. it just gets old you know?
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To be honest, several of the Pats fans were defending Manning. It was mostly one Pats fan and several Colts fans that kept calling Manning a choker.
I agree. It wasn't so much Pats fans as it was Colts fans. By no means by posting here am I doubting Brady. Brady, like Manning, is one of the best ever. "Stuff" happens to even the best.
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I'm sure glad someone else started this thread. But I was thinking the same thing.
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Honestly, we don't need the manning hate. But whenever you get done with it we made the right decision, period.
Of course we made the right decision. I'm not arguing we should have kept Manning. I'm pretty sure Manning wasn't let go because of what some people think about him in the playoffs.
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Manning choked like he always does. Just be glad they played the Bears in the Super Bowl, who had Grossman at quarterback or he would still be like Marino, best at the position to never win a ring.
Here's a link that's is burried in the article above. Wish I had this earlier...
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Manning choked like he always does. Just be glad they played the Bears in the Super Bowl, who had Grossman at quarterback or he would still be like Marino, best at the position to never win a ring.
I'm going to just provide a link to this article that was provided to me. I suppose though, you're set in your ways and opinion...
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Manning choked like he always does. Just be glad they played the Bears in the Super Bowl, who had Grossman at quarterback or he would still be like Marino, best at the position to never win a ring.
Never ends...
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What time will it be televised in the west coast?
Not sure, what TV provider do you use? Can probably look it up.
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agreed . . .
yes . . . it is tough when people try to pin something on one person . . . and tough too when you are the last one to turn off the lights and everyone is going to blame you . . . but for me unless there are clear bonehead mistakes . . . it is generally a mix among all players and coaches and of coarse the other team performing well . . . alas, it was a game in which you could not afford a mistake and sadly for Manning there was no time for make up after the pick . . .
I remember late in SB 38 leading by 5 Brady the pats were driving down the field in a similiar one score you can't make a mistake game. we were in the red zone and thus had a sure 3 points to make it at least a 8 point game . . . Brady rolled out and threw an inexcusable pick, as opposed to throwinng the ball through the back of the endzone . . . 3 plays later on 3rd and long , Delomne throws an 85 yard TD pass and now we are down by 2 points . . . an alsolute killer, but fortunately we had some time left and drove the field for a TD to go ahead . . . but not the less Brady threw a back pick but, unlike Manning, had time to correct the mistake . . . the Brady pick is mostly forgotten about, but i have not, it was a costly mistake that fortunately Brady had time to make up for, had it been later in the game, result of the game could of been different . . .
you may of already seen this article, but its a good read . . .
That's a great article. But, even with all that data at hand, many will still blame Manning entirely. If you look at the post immediately below the article, there's a prime example. It amazes me that so many fans can't seem to look at an entire game to draw a logical conclusion. Most will only consider Peyton Manning is the common variable, therefore the reason for the losses.
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Was the post in this thread or another? . . . I would like to read it . . . just let me know the thread and I can find it . . .
As for your points I would like to say the following . . . the pick 6 was a bad bounce (i don't think it was PI frankly), the WR was looking into the sun and it was cold . . . the pass was a tad high but that was it from Manning, it was otherwise a fine pass . . . the fumble was a fumble and was past the tuck point, bad luck for Manning had he just dropped the ball it would of been a incomplete pass, like what happen to Romo in a game last year, but he lost control of the ball and tried to corral it and was able to grab it with both hands, so to that extent it was on mannning and just bad luck it was past the point of the tuck (whereas Romo was saved by dropping the ball). . . the final pick was on manning . . .
The D did not play lights out, but on the other hand were not awful either, they gave up 21 points on hail marys that work about once in 15 tries, the other 14 points were on the pick 6 and the short field based on Manning's fumble . . . so not great, but not awful, bad luck maybe
the team was helped by 14 points on ST, the missed FG i believe was from beyond his range and, like a golfer trying to kill a ball, you can hit the dirt before the ball . . .
so was the game on manning . . . no it was not . . . nor was it totally on the D either . . . the one thing that i will say is that in games like that, you really need to avoid trying to make a mistake, and it has happened to everyone . . .so to that extent I feel that it was ill advise for Manning not to throw away the ball OT, was it the be all end all, no of coarse not, but merely a situation were a mistake was made, like the safety play and coaching, could not be afforded . . .
hey all QBs have had mistakes and many times have made ones that are just a mere part of a game . . . this is simple what happened . . . so the pick, like the coaching and safety play, were all parts of the loss . . . alas, when your team around you are making mistakes it carries an extra burden on teammates not to make a mistake themselves . . .
I pretty much agree with everything you said here. Anyone I've disagreed with basically put the loss on Manning alone (the pick in double OT was the loser as far as they're concerned). I'd have to look back to see where I commeneted before, but I'm basically in agreement with what you posted.
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Not one game but multiple 1-and-dones finally did it. Never a fan of Brady but just a little more respect to a long-time opponent who just registered another playoff win without drama and moved onto the next round. I just hope Ravens end his run though.
I'll agree with you here. I think the Ravens have as good a chance as anyone to defeat NE at NE.
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There is nothing wrong loving your hero. He was my super hero the past 10 yrs until last Saturday. And I really hate Pats
So, Tony (I assume that's your name), a man you referred to prior to this loss was your "super hero"? He loses a game and is no longer a hero or super hero to you? Isn't that called a fairweather fan? I'll be a fan of the Colts and Peyton Manninig regardless. So I guess if the Broncos make it to the SB next year and win, Peyton Manning is your super hero again? I have the utmost respect for Peyton Manning as a person and a player for his accomplishments on and off the field. I thought super heros were for kids, but depending on your definition of a hero, maybe Peyton Manning is my hero among many other good people.
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Did you watch the postgame new conference? #18 told people it was a bad throw and "no excuse".
So you think "every throw he made was perfect" and you are not in blind love and calling others "childish"?
Anyway, it's only a game and THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT YR
Dude or Dudette, I was being sarcastic.
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He was not put in the position to throw the pick. Contrarily he was on the way to drive his team down the field for a game-winning TD and nobody would ever talk about his mistakes and instead he'd be praised as the greatest of all time for an entire week before meeting the Pats. Even on that very play he had one WR on top that was open and his target Stokley open, and nobody was near him to bring him down. He made a bad throw. That's it.
OMG are you serious? He made a bad throw? I thought every throw he made was perfect.
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but how can one blame a guy named "18manning" for his blind love on Manning?
Here again, it's not "blind love", it's the name of my avatar. You people are childish and ridiculous.
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Missing FGs is also part of a game. If you really think your super hero should never be put in the position, for three times, to prove his greatness by moving the chain for 30-40 yards and let his kicker finish the game, I guess you should really ask yourself how much you really trust your greatest-of-all-time.
Boy you people that don't like Manning REALLY DON'T LIKE MANNING. Just because my avatar is a picture of Manning and I use the 18Manning as my name, doesn't make him my "super hero". I trust him completely. Let me guess, you're a Brady fan? Some other QB fan? Are you jealous your QB isn't talked about as a GOAT? Well, talk to the media about that. Don't cry to me...
Is the Manning/Brady era beginning it's end?
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I guess it could be the beginning to end, but either one could go on to have very productive years. Peyton/Denver was literally one play away from advancing to the AFC Championship game and I think they will be better next year. Brady/NE was only one game away from another SB and had the best offense this season. With a good supporting cast and adjustments they'll keep going, but they're both certainly on the way down (beyond the half way point).