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3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
I'm................................................. going crazy?
Are you serious?
I simply made a post that this is more serious than what a number of posts believe.
And you think that's................... going crazy?
I appreciate that you're a somewhat new member here.... but on the Colts.com "Going Crazy" scale.... what I wrote would barely register at all.
As for everything else.... no where did I say Luck's calf/ankle injury is more serious than his shoulder injury. All I said is things are different. That Luck showed up at camp last year and performed and suffered no set backs. But he showed up to camp this year and his injury had NOT healed and now he's had a set-back. Those two scenarios are different. That's all I said.
I think it's going crazy if we compare this injury at all to last year's injury. Yes, things are different. But you wrote it as if we're supposed to believe that things are different in a worse way, because this year Luck suffered a setback and isn't practicing as much in training camp, and last year he did.
To be clear, I'm not saying your reaction ranks anywhere near the all-time colts.com level freakouts. I am new on this forum, but I have been reading it for a few years now, probably since 2016. I wasn't able to join cause the members application wasn't working for some reason. I was just exploding when I saw someone type something crazy and I couldn't respond!
But regarding this issue, you definitely seem to be reacting the strongest and playing into your emotions and fears versus reason. Hence, your point about people here being emotional and brainless doesn't bode well when you react with such emotion and fear. Not that I'm blaming you for reacting that way, I'm just saying
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5 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Except this isn't anyone, this is Andrew Luck. The backbone of the team, the reason why casual fans buy tickets. I didn't accuse the FO of lying when anyone was hurt like this, just Luck. My evidence is two years ago. That's how business works apparently though, so continue on.
I stand corrected: "You've already been caught doing this once, so then whenever anyone important has any injury and you say they're doing fine, I'm gonna accuse you of doing it again cause of your history"
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23 hours ago, Introspect said:
The top 5 QB's in this league don't go through this many injuries or are held out due to nagging "issues". I am a Colt fan but the Front Office is best served to look for another QB once his contract expires and look towards the future (Trevor Lawrence?).
I do hope this team can win a Super Bowl during the Luck Era
We're not tanking for Lawrence if Luck is still healthy and on our roster. And anyways, actually a lot of players, including QBs, are held out of camp due to nagging injuries. You just don't pay attention to it because it's not the Colts.
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On 7/31/2019 at 1:46 AM, threeflight said:
All I can say is this much. I have played just about every sport there is, some at a collegiate to semi pro level, and have lots of injuries, including broken bones, acl, etc.
And I have also had my share of calf strains, arm and back strains, ankle sprains etc.'
I have never taken or known anyone to take 3 months to heal from a calf strain. A month, month and a half at most. And even if he did have a calf strain, most people I know have been able to play through it.
No. There is something more going on here. And lets face it, Luck has really started to prove himself to be injury prone. All those injuries he played threw his first few years. Kidney, ribs, shoulder etc.
As much as I hate to say it, it may be time to at least consider the option of drafting someone good....just in case.
First off, the kidney and rib injury is the same injury. The kidney gets lacerated by the displaced broken rib.
Second off, you can't expose someone to a bunch of hits and then say they get injured because they're "injury prone". No, they got hurt because they got hit a lot. Simple as that. With Pagano running a stupidly vertical offense behind a nonexistent offensive line set up by Grigson, combined with Luck's bad habit of heroics, it's a recipe for disaster. So it's no wonder he got hurt. In fact, it could've been a lot worse. But let's be clear, there is no indication that Luck is getting hurt cause of some vague "injury prone-ness", versus simply getting hurt cause he exposed himself to horrifically bad hits.
Also, can we take a step back here and realize that the injury that made you say "ok, Luck is injury prone" is a mild calf strain that hasn't cost him any games yet??
I don't care how concerned you are, or worried about the fact that 3 months have passed and he's not healed yet, but you cannot deem someone "injury prone" cause of a calf strain in the offseason. That's just laughable.
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On 7/31/2019 at 12:59 AM, Jared Cisneros said:
I believe it's one of two things. They are outright lying in order to sell tickets again because the real news is worse than intially thought and he needs surgery, or they just have no idea and passing along guesses as fact. They may honestly be hoping rest heals him at this point. Just be honest with the fanbase, you've already been caught doing this once.
"You've already been caught doing this once, so then whenever anyone has any injury and you say they're doing fine, I'm gonna accuse you of doing it again cause of your history"
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On 7/31/2019 at 12:50 AM, NewColtsFan said:
Each issue is unique. When you haven't healed properly in three months, and you're supposed to be ready for training camp, and then TC arrives and you're still not ready and now he's aggrivated the original injury, that's different than what happened last year.
Luck was ready at camp. He suffered no known set-backs. He played his way back into shape as we hoped he would. 18 was different than 19.
So far, what he hoped for this time around has not happened. Not even a little. And now, he's only got 5 weeks until the start of the season. It's not way too early. I stand by the idea that people who are saying either they are not worried, or there's no reason for anyone else to be worried absolutely amaze me. I think they're wishing and hoping.
As for this place being toxic.... this website often is around training camp. People get way too excited, too hyped up. And when things go wrong, they go crazy. I've said since I arrived.... very passionate fan base.... not the most knowledgeable. It doesn't make me very popular. But I think it's true....
Let's look at the facts regarding the injury. It's supposed to be a mild calf strain, but has mysteriously persisted for 3 months. It has been reported that Luck was not doing a lot of intensive rehab during that time, as everyone thought it would just go away. Andrew Luck was practicing in training camp, but then was shut down after experiencing discomfort on Sunday. He said that, if there were a game on Sunday, he would be healthy enough to play in it. And we have 39 days (I think) until kickoff.
Now tell me, do you think that warrants the response that you have?
Regarding the bolded, you left out some important context. You can't say that we should be as concerned as last year because last year Luck didn't suffer any setbacks and this year he has. An injury isn't bad or not depending on whether it has setbacks. It's bad depending on the injury. We should be far more concerned over an injury that has required someone to stay out of action for a year and a half even if there hasn't been a recent setback, versus a mild calf strain whose recovery has suffered a setback.
My guy, you can't point to how when things go wrong, they go crazy, when you're the one that's going crazy now that things are going wrong.
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On 7/31/2019 at 12:35 AM, Jdubu said:
I’ll tell you one thing, this has the same characteristics of the shoulder injury. I’ve said it a few times, this holding back and vague discussions of if it were a real game he would play etc... we’ve heard these lines before and then poof, Luck never played all year.
My take is that it is what it is. He is in or he is out, the games go on. My thing is, this team was being put together as a competing team for a shot at a Super Bowl. Players need reps to be really superior here and if anyone thinks that Luck is so awesome that him missing some practices here or there isn’t affecting how this team will come out and play is lying to themselves. Continuity is huge at creating success and right now, how much live practice has the young kids had with the #1 QB on this team? They are all used to #2,3 QB ball coming at them.
Something is up, something is wrong and whether it’s missing real games or a season or dreaded a career, something for sure is wrong. So you can sit back and enjoy the conspiracy theories but I’ve seen this same movie a couple times in the Colts PR room. Manning and now with Luck. Same motto.
He's practiced in a few 7 on 7s. People are acting as if he's missed all of training camp or something. I'm not concerned about the bolded because it's been happening for a few years, and Luck has been just fine when he's been on the field. So yes, I do think that Luck is so awesome that him missing some practices here or there won't affect the team because it's happened and has been happening for a long time already
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23 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:
Use Next year's 2nd (from Washington) for a QB?
Brissett will be gone. Groom a young QB for cheap insurance then trade him before 1st contract is up....: NE style.
Using a second rounder on a QB when our 4x Pro Bowl franchise QB hasn't even turned 30 yet is a little extreme. Maybe round 3 or 4 though
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18 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:
I miss being able to count on 12-14 wins every season like clockwork. The whole Brady/Manning thing was a nice little bonus I guess, but knowing we were legit SB contenders every single season was far more fun for me.
I remember those days too, but I think we're starting to get into another time like that...
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23 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:
Even still I would say that you would probably have to expand the rosters if you did this.
Oh yes, for sure
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6 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
Kenny Moore had some IG stories of himself dunking a basketball. I just cringed because of the possibility of getting injured away from the game. I was like come on Kenny your to important to this team.
I won't stop someone from playing basketball. It's their life, and the offseason.
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2 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:
Seems dumb. Who is going to want to go to those games?
Who wants to watch 2 "B-teams" going at it?
Keep it at 16 games.
It doesn't necessarily mean that there will be 16 normal games and 2 "B-team" games. Teams will sit out some players at different points throughout the season to stagger it out. They won't just sit everyone out at once unless they clinched the 1st seed or something. Doesn't mean it isn't dumb, I'm just trying to help everyone understand how this system would work
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I'm not against 18 games coupled with 2 less preseason games, because it would mean more meaningful football less preseason, while still not increasing the total amount of games played. What I am against is the 16 game cap per player. That would fundamentally change the game as we know it. It adds another layer of strategy that just complicates everything. Plus, no bigger roster since teams have to mandatorily not suit up more players than before.
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On 7/17/2019 at 11:07 AM, Colt.45 said:
They say same about almost every player. Have you heard them gush about Chester?
Not like Cain. They literally called him the steal of the draft. He was getting national media coverage in training camp. A 6th round pick by the Colts was getting national media coverage before the preseason even started
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22 minutes ago, Nulled said:
Could we? No.
Do you think the Texans, would REALLY trade Clowney to their biggest rival?
That was already talked about. The OP said even though there's no way they would trade Clowney to a divisional rival, hypothetically if you take that factor out, what would you have to/ be willing to give up for Clowney. So basically just look at this like some sort of ESPN trade machine thing
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19 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
Is he a linebacker or a DE? Would he even fit this system.
I'm pretty sure they run a 3-4 defense, and Clowney's an OLB, but maybe he could make the switch, idk.
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On 7/16/2019 at 9:24 AM, Colt.45 said:
We don't know anything about Cain, we've seen college tape, we have dreams about what he can be, when the lights turn on, he's a question mark, a big one. We'll just have to wait and see. May the best man win.
We don't, but they do. And from what we've heard from them, he could be something special.
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I don't want to use resources on another linebacker, so in order for me to pull the trigger, it would have to be a huge steal. I'd do a 2nd rounder
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14 hours ago, Colt.45 said:
The coaching staff like Fountain a lot too don't they? GM likes Fountain too, heck he picked Fountain (the small school kid) before Cain.
Higher ceiling based on what? His college profile? What're these projections based on? We've seen many preseason star wideouts in Indy, every season there's one, what's Cain got over the competition?
Also the ACL tear seems to be underestimated. It's a lot to expect him to contribute seriously this year. Not many players can do what AP did. Look at Hooker last year, he admittedly wasn't same guy and took until this offseason for him to fully recover. It's just a huge ask to come back at full speed, and combining that with the fact he's essentially a rookie, I'm still not seeing how he's more of a lock than Fountain or Marcus Johnson or Pascal or Chester. Ideally, they all take jumps this year but if I were betting, I'd have Chester, Pascal and Fountain ahead of Cain for sure. Probably also Marcus Johnson. Cain's ahead of the rookies because he's been in the building a year but the others have actually been in live NFL (including playoff) games and contributed. I'd love to see Cain do well but ultimately I think he's behind the others and I think they'll all take leaps going into year 2 under Reich.
**not even mentioned Krishawn Hogan who the coaches reportedly adore.
You're acting as if we don't know anything about Deon Cain. The higher ceiling is based on the fact that he's a second round talent that dropped due to personality concerns, and the fact that he was doing so well in camp. Obviously I'm not saying they don't like Fountain, but before the preseason the Colts were calling him "the steal of the draft". Turns out we did have the steal of the draft, but that's besides the point
The ACL tear isn't being underestimated, the thing is that there's a difference when you tear your ACL in August vs October or November. Also, what has Fountain done to prove more than Cain? He was on the practice squad, and he had that one divisional game drop. Other than that I don't see why you think Fountain is more proven or whatever. And it is simply absurd to have him over Pascal and Chester. The problem is that we know what they are: not very good. When deciding who to keep on the roster, the question is not "have these guys contributed before?" The question is "will these guys contribute?" And the answer is, from what I've seen and heard, Deon Cain is talented and is at least worth keeping more than Pascal and Chester.
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7 minutes ago, Colt.45 said:
I've read this several times but what's the rationale behind the thought that Cain is any more of a lock than Fountain?
Fountain's actually played in the league, played in the playoffs, and experienced it all, that has to count for something. Cain had a good preseason but is coming back from an ACL injury and most players don't come back full speed for more than a full season and expecting Cain to be full speed next year is really benchmarking HIGH. Why is he more of a lock than a guy who has played in the league and definitely learned a few things?
Because from what we know, he's very talented, the coaching staff likes him a lot, he has a way higher ceiling, and he is recovering well from the ACL tear. Yes, technically from a fan standpoint neither player has proven anything on the big field, but then again neither has our 2nd round picks this year, and yet no one is saying they're not locks. It's all about how good we think they'll be, not how good they've been so far.
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2 hours ago, DougDew said:
Thanks for the analysis, Superman. A few comments.
First, as far as some forum comments regarding Leonard vs Banogu in terms of a prospect, I disagree with the notion that Leonard was an unknown. I think he was the second best "lighter-weight, rangy" ILB prospect coming out of the draft behind Roquan Smith. It was the fact that he came from SCState that made him the unknown to many, IMO. I think if many would have looked at the tape closely before the draft, his selection at the top of the second made more sense. OTOH, I think many saw Banogu's tape and still question the value of higher-mid second round.
I pretty much like the same picks as Superman (defining non-likes as below a B grade), and basically aligned the picks that way by the end of the draft.
@Superman, I think your description of Willis reads more favorable than your overall grade. I think the defense needs a stronger tackling S than a coverage S (outside of a zone window), and that aligns more with what I think Willis' skills are. Is it the lack of a high ceiling that pushes him down?
As far as the trade, at the time, I said I thought Ballard could have gotten more than just a second round next year from the Skins. Then he ended up getting an extra 5th by trading down three spots from 46 to 49, so that minor slide accumulated the capital I thought we should have had a day earlier. It evened out by the next day.
I agree with the bolded
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On 7/8/2019 at 8:05 PM, AwesomeAustin said:
Im also talking this year. The Colts have a very tough schedule and I think they could go 11-5 or just as easy 9-7. There will be a lot of competition and the main focus should be making the playoffs and winning our division. I’m not ready to crown the Colts a powerhouse team that will rival the greatest dynasty ever when they haven’t won their division in 5 years. I still think we are 1-2yrs out before we get a shot at the big game. Making the 2nd round of the playoffs is still a good year tho. The run at the end was so much fun to watch, I get why people are optimistic bc I am too. We are on our way back for sure.
So if we can make the 2nd round, how should we not have Super Bowl aspirations? The greatest dynasty ever is running on fumes, and has been for a few years now. It's time for us to take over as the powerhouse of the AFC. I'm not saying it will happen this year, but I hope it will happen this year. At any rate, we have a shot
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2 hours ago, coltsfeva said:
Behind
Rogers
Mahomes
Wilson
He’s got Brady at #9 and Brees at #10.
In general, “ranking teams or players” before a season starts is so subjective that I don’t give it much weight.
But I was more interested in his comments about Luck not throwing “lasers”. Is there any validity to that? If it is true, will we see more zip on the ball this year?
As far as his list, I’m with Warner, you can’t put Brees and Brady at 9 and 10.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/titansized.com/2019/06/26/kurt-warner-rips-chris-simms/amp/
I get the Brady part as @Chloe6124 already explained, but that doesn't explain Brees. Brees was spectacular last year. Even if you think it's because he plays in the Saints' system, the Saints' system is definitely not better than the Patriots' system, and Brees far outproduced Brady last year even though Brady has a better system. Brees is personally a top 3 QB for me
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On 7/4/2019 at 4:52 PM, AwesomeAustin said:
Yes fringe playoff team. They needed to win the last game of the year to make the playoffs after not making it the previous three years. Doesn’t get anymore fringe than that. I think they will make it this year.
We're talking this year, not last year. And yes, technically we were fringe last year if you only look at that, but that's not the full picture. We were the hottest team in the NFL.
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That's not "all a team needs", but it's not nothing. You're also leaving out the factor that we started slow because Luck had never played a game in 1 and a half years. The reps were important cause they got him back to speed. Plus, new head coach. But the main point is in the past when he was playing with the shoulder injury, he barely practiced and still played like a Pro Bowler. So it's not completely unfounded or wishful thinking that Luck "is so awesome that him missing a few practices here and there" won't have a disastrous effect on his play